Drop the doughnut, close up the bag of chips and put the kids to bed early.  Head on over to Vues website NOW.  E-on has just revealed the new features of Vue6 with some video demonstrations.  Be sure to grab plenty of napkins and papertowels to wipe up the drool off your desks and keyboards.

Whoa, hang on in there a bit, I am gonna have to shell out $299 an upgrade  for those few simple things? I would expect at least 50 new things at that price and I mean new things not fixxes. Looks flashy for sure, but thinks there must be bugs otherwise it would have been released today. suggestion to vue throw a beta out yo us let us play with it, and we will get back to you, c'est le Vie. In over words I don't buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about adrewe ? This is more than just a 'few simple things'. They have made deep and significant changes to the interface, the atmospheres, the rendering engine, the materials, the animation, the poser compatibility. What more do you want ? It was announced yesterday at the occasion of the siggraph conference but Vue 6 is still in development. Of course there are bugs - it is not finished yet. It will be released this fall.

What is interesting is that almost all the new hot features in Vue6 I are already in Carrara5.1 (cloud lab and all).  Except Carrara also has a fairly robust modeling tool set.  This seems to make Carrara too difficult for a lot of landscape artists to learn. As a user of both, I can say that Carrara took me much longer to master -- to the degree that I actually have masted the application, than Vue5 Infinite did.

To me, the only overwhelming positive for Vue Infinite is it's solidgrowth/ecosystem module, which is obviously a big factor for anyone primarily involved in large scale landscape creation.  The new Vue feature that most bothers me is the "nodelocked" aspect.  I formally addressed this to an e-on representative.  I kindly suggested that all users who were in the "normal" (not the "fast-track") upgrade path be given the "floating license" version -- as their copy of Vue5I was just that.

Odd, that a company which owes it's success to the shareware philosophy, now is firmly in the "we do not trust" marketing philosophy?

Read what I said in another thread about the node locked licenses. I got confirmation from e-on that nothing has changed for hobbyists or individual users. It is the same license we currently have. The distinction with floating licenses is meant more heavy users or professional studios, that have several machines to install vue on (read - dozens of machines on a network). This gives them a choice between 'locking' licenses to individual machines or buying a number of floating licenses and be more flexible in how they use the software. Interesting comment about Carrara - I could have made the same comment when they added network rendering, or their own version of ecosystems oon after e-on came out with theirs for vue 5. Companies are competing in this business. They will come up with similar features to remain competitie. There is nothing 'interesting' in that - it is just a fact of business.

<<  Looks flashy for sure, but thinks there must be bugs otherwise it would have been released today  >>

Unfortunately that's not the way the software development cycle works.

If you read Ageil's report he states quite specifically that the version of 6 running at Siggraph is a beta.  It's there to generate interest & publicity, and to give users, investors, competitors, and all those with an interest an idea of what the finished product will contain.

And it certainly looks impressive!

Quote - I got confirmation from e-on that nothing has changed for hobbyists or individual users. It is the same license we currently have.

This is some great news!

Thanks Agiel.

Yep! That's one up, one down....

BTW; Here's Rendergarden MkII. The little 14" CRT on top has been retired, and a cheapy 17" LCD and pantograph arm added. As well as the two rackmount computers at the bottom. Still doing it with mostly recycled parts (the new monitor, the 16 port 10/100 switch, and the 8 port KVM switch were new purchases....but either on clearance sale or from that bastion of cheapness, pricewatch). I think I'm ready for V6 Infinite...... >:)_

Dale B did you ever get you a web site up so we can see some those animations you been doing on that rederfarm.
 With the heat index being over 100 the last few days here and where you live I dont know how you stand it even if you have air.  That is if they are all being used during this terrible heat we are having. :)

No site as of yet; many of the animations I feel are good enough to be seen aren't going onto a site until the current flux in laws regarding mature content settles down a bit. I am working on a demo reel for reasonable mental ages, though... And the garden has been quiet lately for that very reason, plus the fact our AC is getting ready to die on us. Now in -winter-, they make a nice little heat source. But they actually don't produce as much heat as you might think; all you have is motherboard, cheapy video card, and one HDD in each, so I can get away with using 250-300 watt power supplies.

Yikessss..........I din't know your animations where that kind if I think I understand what you mean.
 Personaly I don't think laws are strict enough for whats being put on the Internet.   But of course just my opinion.
 With kids and grandkids I have to think this way. :)

An esoteric question, will V6I have a stereo camera feature or otherwise be able to link two cameras where one could render a left eye then right eye view for stereo animations?

gannon

Quote - Yikessss..........I din't know your animations where that kind if I think I understand what you mean.
 Personaly I don't think laws are strict enough for whats being put on the Internet.   But of course just my opinion.
 With kids and grandkids I have to think this way. :)

Only some of them. And unfortunately it is election year, and the local scumbag-er-politicians are infamous for finding something they can make an issue out of. Probably the most well known Net-antic is from a decade ago. A Memphis atty was going for a prosecutorial seat...so he signed up for the Amateur Action adult BBS (credit card charging and required statements of awareness and intent and age), downloaded a bunch of stuff, and promptly filed federal charges of interstate trafficing in pornographic materials (yes, those laws are still there, and are used rather like RICO is used. At whim). He got elected, the nice couple in CA lost everything (no charges or trial, just confiscation, legal fees, etc). Once a little common sense reasserts itself, ;'those' clips will be going online. Assuming I haven't done better in the interim. ;)

And my opinion is the Internet was never intended as a babysitter. It was of adults, by adults, and for adults. Of course with this mad rush to put control of the net into the hands of Big Business, it may not matter too much longer. Just think. The whole net dumbed down to the level of Gilligans Island to avoid 'offending' anyone. I simply can not wait.....

Don't hold your breath.   You may be waiting longer than you think. :)

btw do you have any kids or grandkids.

Biological, nope. I wanted them, but my wife doesn't. More than enough nieces, nephews and cousins by the gross. I'm the crazy uncle who most of them come to when they have a problem or need to ask a question that they are sure will freak out the parental units. I still 'understand' (usually meaning that I am not so wrapped up in some of the more unfortunate delusions of parental godhood that I forget I'm human...and so are they).

Incidentally, if the release notes are accurate, Vue will overtake Carrara in Poser support. Carrara is better at reading Poser materials than Vue's currently feeble attempts, but it doesn't translate complex materials. If Vue can indeed reproduce accurately any P6 material, that will be worth having.

For $299 I'll upgrade to V6I from V5I.  Just having a better renderer is worth the price.  And using Silo 2 as a modeler for it will be awesome.

Quote - For $299 I'll upgrade to V6I from V5I.  Just having a better renderer is worth the price.  And using Silo 2 as a modeler for it will be awesome.

I just checked out the Silo 2 demo...it is, in a word awesome looking!  Looks like I'll have to be buying another tool for my overflowing toolbox (buy Silo 1 & get 2 for free)!