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Please go check out the new Freestuff area!!!

Thank you for your continued patience during this conversion process.

when will the catagories go live? (eg atm poser lists everything poser, not by figure, texture, pose etc)

We will be going through and adjusting categories on previously uploaded freebies during the next few weeks manually so it will take some time for the current freestuff items to be categorized correctly.

okies.
btw... the serach is broken ;)
they left the Debug button there.....

mmm shame still no raking thingy for freebee's or comments possible .... :-{

Why not ?

Chris

Thank Khai, Nicholas is taking care of that

Bar, at this time the comments/ratings wasn't within the scope of the conversion but we certainly may come back to this once everything is completed with the site conversion

Can we get something set up so that there are always thumbnails for freestuff?

I mean, I'm rather reluctant to download something, even free if it's not something I'd be interested in, it's a waste of time (and time=money) to do that, load it up, and then delete everything if you don't want it.

Is it possible to put in the commercial/non-commercial tag again?  I don't want to download something and find out after the fact that it isn't usable commercially.

It says that freestuff will be archived after 45 days, but there does not appear to be any archives for Jan-June 2006, only for 1998-2005?

Modus - sometimes the lack of thumbnails is due to servers changing and people forgetting to update them (insert guilty look here) or bandwidth allocations being exceeded.

License: This is licensed for commercial or non-commercial use.

There is a Commercial TAG in the Details window at the bottom but very small Font !!

Chris

No, I know about, and understand the undisplayable image thing, what I'm talking about are freebies that aren't uploaded with a thumbnail period.

Like the one in the attached image.

A couple of things that need looking into :-

Search results don't have any paging, so it's not possible to see beyond the first 12 items.
Thumbnails are being suppressed due to nudity, but there's no setting(s) to turn this off.

Er.. I found a checkbox for the nudity thing. In your Settings in Free Stuff.

And the search doesn't work, period. I get an SQL syntax error if I try to search beyond the 45 days (WHY make that limit at all?!)

Took me quite a while to find a way where I could actually link to my free stuff.

I like the fact that you can sort your own free stuff after most downloaded, it's a nice feature, but at the same time rather useless, compared to how nice it would have been with ratings/comments (personally I prefer comments to ratings)

Phew and I don't envy you guys for having to go through the whole load and fix categories. Is there any way we can do that outselves? And sorta help out and get our own stuff categorized correctly at the same time?

Lisbeth, you can hit the "My Freestuff" link and use the "Edit" button at any time to recategorise to your heart's content :-)

We have asked for Comments in a future release so fingers crossed that the programmers get so fed up of my nagging that they give in :laugh:

Quote - Er.. I found a checkbox for the nudity thing. In your Settings in Free Stuff.

Thanks, found it.
I'd expected the settings link to be at the top level, not via the "my freestuff" link.

And pagination has appeared on the search result pages, so that's those two things sorted.

nruddock,  You don’t see any paging because there are only 12 results. If you perform a search that brings back, say, 100 results, you will see paging.

ernyoka1,

I performed a search “beyond the 45 days ” and didn’t get any SQL errors. Could you please copy and paste the SQL error you are getting?

Thanks

Quote - Lisbeth, you can hit the "My Freestuff" link and use the "Edit" button at any time to recategorise to your heart's content :-)

We have asked for Comments in a future release so fingers crossed that the programmers get so fed up of my nagging that they give in :laugh:

OK :o) I might as well then.

Here's the SQL error I get, I tried to search for stuff by ernyoka1 (me...) older than 1 day and newer than 365 days, in other words stuff I'd posted within the last year. Or at least that's what I expected to appear.. but all I get is:

MySQL error: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '83499 ORDER BY i.date_create DESC LIMIT 10000' at line 3, occured in query: "SELECT i.item_id, i.section_id, i.pwd, i.user_id, i.name, i.date_create, i.item_url, i.thumb_url, i.thumb_width, i.contains_nudity, i.download_cnt, m.username, 1 AS relevancy FROM freestuff_item i INNER JOIN member m ON m.userid=i.user_id WHERE i.status = 'active' AND i.date_create < '2006-08-09 12:22:38' AND i.date_create > '2005-08-10 12:22:38' AND i.user_id 83499 ORDER BY i.date_create DESC LIMIT 10000;".

OK, to whom it may concern.. I just finished going through all my freestuff and they're now all in their right category.

So if it's any help, feel free to skip mine :o)

Quote - nruddock,  You don’t see any paging because there are only 12 results. If you perform a search that brings back, say, 100 results, you will see paging.

I'm seeing the paging now, but wasn't before which is why I mentioned it.

ernyoka1  YOU ROCK... I'm sure the Mods will be happy to see there is at least one they can skip:)

Thanks for taking care of this!!

Emmmm are they doing the "adjusting categories" Now ?

Because my freebee's get placed all over the wrong places .......

Chris 

Hi Chris, please feel free to Edit your own items and put them where you think they should be :o)

I think ill have to ... a map for a SF outfit does not belong in the HAIR section .... looking at the tumb. i just dont get how on earth they figured out it was hair anyway ...maybe they dont look close on what they are doing ....

Chris

I mis-clicked, Chris, that's all. :-)

well ill put them I think they belong .. a texture map is now a themed thing ? ... and a other texture map is not ... But when i do it you guys n dolls are gonna replace em once again if you dont agree were i put them ?

Chris

We're winnowing stuff out of the old categories so if you leave them where they are they'll get moved, if you put them in new categories then they won't.

You don't think a robot is science-fiction? I have to disagree, but then I just watched my I, Robot DVD, heheh. Anyway, put it where you feel it's best :-)

Quote - License: This is licensed for commercial or non-commercial use.

There is a Commercial TAG in the Details window at the bottom but very small Font !!

Chris

Thanks!  I see it now.

I'm not sure about the archiving. What happens if you know ther is something in the free section but you don't know what month it was uploaded. Does that mean you have to search through every month or am I missing something?

You can search by product for sure, possibly by provider. :)

In the archive area wirhout selecting a month?

I must say that free stuff navigation is becomed painful expirience after these changes. I mean, navigation is unnececary complicated. Here is my proposal how should look  navigation:

Default nav look when user open free stuff page, just a small change:

After user selects for instance Poser area

And when user selects Aiko3 subarea:

I think this is more efficient navigation than it's now.

And that horrible archiving thing. I mean, what's that all about? Archiving is done ever 45 days and I can select a month and year of archive? From when a month has 45 days? And if I haven't seen when some product is published I should use search option someone said. And what if I can remember what's the name of that product or who has created that product? For instance, I know that there whas one product under Rhino area but I cant remember the nam or time nor publisher of that product. And now I have to browse manually every and single month from January 1999 to July 2006?

Come on guys and girls, bee serious...

EUHHH the search in freestuff is as BAD as it is in gallery's

I checked for BAR-CODE just like anybody whould do in the first Input BOX i see...

Not ME 5 other people's stuf were somewhere in the txt the word BAR or CODE is placed but BAR-CODE as in my web name is not there at all...

So i checked the Member search and put in BAR-CODE i got 4 itmes..  i have 9 items ...

And Yes there is more ..... when i leave the - out of it and put in BARCODE i got THIS :

Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /netapp/renderosity/public_html/mod/freestuff/search.php on line 116

And its not my name only got the error in names etc etc amount of freebee's with otherpeoples freestuff too...

Chris

I managed to do a search from 2 months old to less than 5 years old and I searched on aiko. It brought me up three pages of results - which doesn't seem very much for such a popular character so I guess it all depends on how efficient people are at putting in key words. Its seems a very tedious way of doing things though :(  if the only other way is to look at a complete month by going to the archives. The other thing I noticed is that it wouldn't let you select things at the right hand side and not put a search word in at the left hand side. By the way category is spelt incorrectly at the right hand side as well.

The programmers are looking into making some adjustments on the Freestuff search

Ohhhh...the word IS spelled wrong...took me a minute to figure out exactly where you were talking about...~hehe~

I'd like to know what the TOU's are??? I see almost NO INFO, on the commercial noncommercial use of 99% of the items. It seems that should be a priorty statement or a given that if it is free...it can be used in any context, short of reselling it or copying it over and distributing the files. Sounds fair to me...don't use 'em if they are restricted. Don't post My freebies and restrict them either. Just a thought.
Ariana 

a browse by section would be nice

searching 'stonemason' gives no results, I do have several freebies in there... somewhere

is the search function final?

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?user_id=104222

'Most wanted'..makes this place look like a porn site,how about most wanted for the month?..on the basis that those top ones will always be at the top & seeing superduper triple x conforming genitals for victoria doesn't give much credence to this site being 'family' oriented.

I get all your freestuff coming up fine on search, Stefan.
Make sure you're putting your username in the "search specific user" box and not the keywords box.

I gotta say, I agree with most others around here when I say the redesign of the freebies section has made things seriously worse. It leads me to believe that there was absolutely no user acceptance testing of the new design, and what we have now is what happens when programmers are left to their own devices to design a user interface. In fact, it's not just the freebies area. Something seriously has happened over the last several months to Renderosity. The whole site, from navigation to searching to browsing has become increasinly more complicated. All I can say is thank God 'osity is part of Content Paradise. (And I'm not too thrilled with CP's redesign for Siggraph either but for different reasons).

Hi gellenburg,

"the redesign of the freebies section has made things seriously worse."

Could you specify how?

lets see.
no browse by catagory : you have to search, but unless you know what you are looking for to enter into the search engine...
search engine still buggy and brings up non relevant responses
no abilty to focus on what is relevant : Eg I don't have Max, Lightwave, Mojo - the abilty to filter these responses out would be a major step forwards.
Nudity Filter on be default : To hard to link that to the overall filter setting in our profiles??
white background : We can change the forums and the gallery...

Quote - The whole site, from navigation to searching to browsing has become increasinly more complicated.

It seems more cluttered, less organized.

Quote - no browse by catagory : you have to search, but unless you know what you are looking for to enter into the search engine...

Seconded. > Quote - search engine still buggy and brings up non relevant responses

Seconded. Perhaps freebie authors should be permitted to include "keywords" which can be searched on as wel? I know that didn't exist before but it seemed like before the search engine included the text from the notes/ details text before when coming up with its results. it doesn't appear to be doing that today. > Quote - no abilty to focus on what is relevant : Eg I don't have Max, Lightwave, Mojo - the abilty to filter these responses out would be a major step forwards.

Agreed. > Quote - Nudity Filter on be default : To hard to link that to the overall filter setting in our profiles??

Double, triple, and quadrupled agreed. In fact, the nudity feature is what brought me to the forums in the first place today because I kept on seeing "image filtered because of nudity" or somehting to that effect and I was like I would have never turned that on and couldn't figure out how to turn it off. Having that option be under "My Freestuff" is totally the wrong place to have it. My Freestuff to me is for freestuff that I've uploaded. This option should be one the member's profile or account settings page (perhaps tied into a global "Show nudity?" bit flag).

"no browse by catagory"
We are recategorising the items now. So far we're about 2000 items in.

"search engine still buggy and brings up non relevant responses"
Can you give an example?

"no abilty to focus on what is relevant : Eg I don't have Max, Lightwave, Mojo - the abilty to filter these responses out would be a major step forwards."
Just select the relevant category drop-down on the right of the search screen to bring up (for example) only items in Poser.

"Nudity Filter on be default : To hard to link that to the overall filter setting in our profiles??"
I will suggest this to the programming team. It's possible that the filters will all be able to be set from homepage once the full conversion is complete.

"white background : We can change the forums and the gallery..."
Sorry, no answer on that one...

"It seems more cluttered, less organized."
Well, the whole freestuff regategorisation is designed purely to organise items into relevant categories. After all, how organised is it to have to search "Posable clothing", "Conforming figures" and "Millie/vicky" when you're looking for V3 clothing?

:-)

"no browse by catagory"
We are recategorising the items now. So far we're about 2000 items in.

 so in time instead of going poser, search catagory, try to guess what to search for...
we'll be able to go 'Poser : Browse Victoria3' and get everything for Vicky3? or 'Browse : Props (poserready)'  (like the old system?)

Just asking....was my question, comment not important enough to warrant an answer?
Ariana

Hi Khai

we'll be able to go 'Poser : Browse Victoria3' and get everything for Vicky3? or 'Browse : Props (poserready)'  (like the old system?)

Yes :-) You will also be able to specify further down, e.g. clothing for V3 or poses for her, or just view the whole category. We are going through now and dropping everything into appropriate categories, since the Freestuff didn't acknowledge the existence of any new characters since Victoria 1 ;-) You can already view everything in Poser-Ready Props because this category has been retained from the old system.

Hi Ariana,

Sorry I missed your question before. Freestuffs are offered by the creators and not hosted on Renderosity, so the TOU for each item needs to be checked by you individually. The creator may have ticked "non-commercial use only" which you can see in the Details box, or they may have put terms in the readme, or they may not specify. If in doubt, contact the creator for details. (By the way - many creators say "non-commercial use" but if approached individually, some will happily grant permission to use in commercial renders, depending on the nature of the work.)

Karen :-)

Hi ThanX....just a comment...It would be polite to have the TOU displayed here, cause it saves time for a lot of peeps that would like to use a freebie every once in a while, but the TOU is missing. I really think if you give it, give it in all aspects. Just my opinion. That's what i do.
Ariana

Hi Ariana,

We can't display the TOU for every item, since all creators state it differently.
With over 14,000 items in Freestuff... we could not create a statement which would cover all items, except for "Check license terms individually." It's up to individual creators to set their own terms.