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Ah......these are beautiful. Thoughts race in my head. I must harness them for now as the story challenge begs priority! LOL! "Ha,ha!" says the right side of my brain to my left....."As those thoughts drip out we shall write them down. A word here, a thought there! You'll see, we shall have a Haiku before you know it! I shall teach you the meaning of multitasking!" The left side of the brain just laughs a hearty laugh as the eyes roll upward. ..........okay....folks sorry....too much coffee!
Hope all are having a great weekend!
Delicate.
Leaves on autumn breeze.
Butterflies.
We're a bit early for autumn, but who cares? We are quickly approaching my favorite time of year.
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
Temptation.
Warm, home made cookies,
On cool nights.
I'm on a roll here, hitting two challenges at once. The Temptation Challenge and the Autumn Haiku Challenge, in this case. I've enjoyed all of these. Don't be intimidated, heartnsoul. You should do more.
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
Ummm...Aren't we supposed to use the last word of the last haiku?
I guess I'll use the last word of the last entry... by jstro...which is wonderful,btw...
Nights... like icy silk
Whisper with moist minty breath
Winter on the wind.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Gloom be gone.
Fall is upon us.
Dance in leaves.
Sorry. That was not said in the opening post, so I thought it was for just any haiku dealing with autumn. Should have remembered from the previous ones. I'm back on track now.
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
I'm confused, I didn't read until now that we are taking the last letter making it the first of the next. Wouldn't that be a form of Renga? While not in the traditional sense but you are in effect answering and continuing the previous work. Also, just out of curiosity, is free form haiku okay? As I see 3-53 rather than 5-7-5. I enjoy the challenge, just want to be clear on the guidelines. I don't want to break the flow..Thanks......
I was just going by the guidelines of the spring and summer haiku threads...You're right.Something should have been stated at the beginning of this thread.
As to the number of syllables,it's been 3-5-3 or 5-7-5.There are other types of haiku,I know,but no one seems to have done one of those, so I don't know if they're allowed or not.
I've never heard of Renga...What is it?
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
This is my first time in this forum and I had not gone back into the other threads. It's okay though, I just want to follow what is being done. As my first would tecnically be Senryu, haiku form using 5-7-5 but on human existance rather than nature. My ultimate first being in high school which I failed miserably at, infact if I remember correctly my english teacher gave me a C- I was always intimidated by them. At any rate, age renewed interest.....
The best way for me to describe Renga is to give an excerpt of the definintion from my collection of Poetry Forms and Terminoly (if you type in this it will lead you to the site) this particular one I find most useful.
"In classical RENGA, 3-line and 2-line verses are alternated, beginning with a 3-line verse (a hokku, usually approximating 5-7-5 syllables) resembling haiku and indicating a season. A second poet composes the following verse (2 lines approximating 7-7), linking it by one of several methods (not too obviously, please) with the first. The next verse (of 3 lines), composed by the first poet (in a 2-person renga) or by another (in renga written by more than 2 poets), links with the second but not with the first.=renga,20 line verse
Traditionally, each verse employs a season word, most especially the ones requiring reference to autumn, moon, flower, etc. Season words are words usually associated with one season more than another (blossom = spring; snow = winter; baseball = summer, harvest = autumn, etc.) Verses do not refer to moon or flower except when they are specifically called for.
Beginning capitals and ending punctuation are usually avoided. These patterns continue throughout the renga, each verse linking somehow with the verse preceding it, but with no others. Each verse may launch us in a new direction, providing the next poet with a new puzzle to solve. Once a significant noun, verb, adjective or adverb occurs, it is usually not used in another verse (tho a witty switch of meaning or context might be acceptable in adjacent links). This technique keeps a renga continually twisting and turning, challenging both poet and reader.
The result is a constantly changing mosaic which discourages development of a logical, sequential narrative. The pleasures derived from continual surprise, striking imagery and delightfully sudden (and often witty) insights can be captivating. That is one of the chief delights of renga."
While we are not using traditional...we are in effect using Renga by taking the last word and incorporating it into the next....which is an answer of to the prior verse.
I scoured my site looking for haiku using a 3-5-3 rule, but couldn't find one. I mostly did this because I thought that there was something that I had missed, which is fine because rules are meant to be broken. An exercise for the brain and spirit. But still, there should be a continual flow....one verse traditional...next. free....something on that vein. Even in Asian form free verse follows a continuity. I hope this helps.
~Michelle~
Thank you for the explanation, Michelle.Renga sounds wonderful...and quite challenging!
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Man, woman;
Entwined as they go.
Autumn stroll.
Another 3-5-3. We've had a mix of both in the other challenges so I think it's OK to do either form (3-5-3 or 5-7-5).
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
feet sans shoes
caress autumn soil
cool and dry
The 3-5-3 is really an American Haiku form which is intentionally crafted to address the change in feel when one reads a 5-7-5 one in English. Japanese and English are quite different in their phonetics and feeling, so the 3-5-3 ones in English come closer to the terse feel of the 5-7-5 Japanese ones. Do correct me if I'm wrong someone. :) And there is freedom for poetic license because I've read Haiku by Zen masters like Basho, Issa and Chiyojo which have an added syllable in one of the lines to preserve the poetry of the words.
Thanks for your explanatino of Renga. I was curious too, about what it was. :)
Dry,brittle leaves crunch
Sounds of Fall beneath my feet
Echoes of what was.
Sorry about my last line.I was hard-pressed to find a good one.If someone has a better alternative,I'd love to know about it.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Trees sigh and whisper
Forget not my golden days
I will be again.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
(Diary of a tree):
Again I blushed red;
Evergreens pointed and jeered:
My branches, exposed.
--
How embarrassing. :blushing:
PS. Just to let you all know that voting has now commenced for the Story Pix Challenge (for those interested in horror/comedy, a link to my own story can be found here).
(end plug)
Drekinn
___
"Let words be your palette."
The tree diary continues...
Exposed and alone
A barren shell shorn of life
Empty nest syndrome.
I'm sorry.Syndrome will be near impossible to work with,but I just couldn't help myself. (LOL)
If you can't use it,please feel free to ignore me. :^)
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Rebirth...the promise
That lies dormant underneath
In sweet sleep repose.
Good on you,David!Thanks for not 'negating' me,lol. (Double negatives,notwithstanding.) ;^P Hope 'repose' isn't a problem,as well. :^)
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Works for me. :^)
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Summer ...I knew you
Brazen greens and showy blooms
The beauty of youth.
Not about 'Autumn' and yet... :^/
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Beauty lasts.
Bare branches reach high.
Stark, yet strong.
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
Grey skies frown,
Foretelling winter,
Soon to come.
Been kind of cold and bluster here lately.
~jon
~jon
My Blog - Mad
Utopia Writing in a new era.
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Green, to amber, red;
Seasonal traffic halted;
Fall takes right of way.
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With the changing of the seasons comes the changing of the haiku challenge. Thought I'd start the ball rolling this time round.
PS. If anyone's interested I've again been busy penning a poem in ode to my father on this special day, which you can view here.
Drekinn
___
"Let words be your palette."