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Subject: So who is luvin their Bryce 6.0......?


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foleypro ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 12:08 AM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 5:23 AM

Just thought I would start this one early...

 

 

I love my bryce even more now,If thats at all Possible...


AgentSmith ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 12:36 AM

My girlfriend has totally given up on trying to get my attention for anything. Dishes are stacking up, and the stubble is turning into a beard.

I'm definitely in "play" mode right now, but I am working on some finished scenes (landscapes, character renders)

I'm truly, truly happy. And, as far as new abilities for the future I was overjoyed to read Steve mentioning Bryce eventually having an SDK. That has the possibility of being a huge key to opening up Bryce.

I'd say more, but I gotta go convert more hdri's.

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Quest ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 12:58 AM

This is what I would like to hear:

I would love to hear from those that really enjoy their newfound Bryce 6…what your machine specs are in terms of speed, memory, CPU's, architecture, Operating System…Microsoft or otherwise please.

Also if you find that Bryce and your system are not reacting as well together, I would also like to hear from you regarding the same criteria as above.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 1:48 AM

I've crashed once now, most likely my fault, I was going feverishly back and forth, loading hdri after hdri in the sky lab. Honetsly, I was pretty much man-handling it, lol.

Windows 2000 Pro  (5.0.2195 SP 4 Build 2195)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, (2.0GHz)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939
Memory: 1024MB DDR RAM, PC3200, 400Mhz (Corsair)
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 - 128.0 MB

Otherwise...no problems.

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wheatpenny ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 2:04 AM
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No crashes yet.
Right now I'm working on updating my old bryce house. Unfortunately I still can't export it, but that's ok.
I'm also experimenting with lighting, trying to get better at it. That's always been my weak point, lighting.
I'm on a pentium-D 2.8 GHZ, 2 GB Ram, Windows XP Media center Edition, SP2.
And so far I don't regret upgrading. I'm really glad Daz decided to bring Bryce into the 21st century and add HDRI.




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madmax_br5 ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 2:10 AM

I'm on a mac, and bryce 6 is a lot more stable than bryce 5.5. The annoying thing is that all the presets come separately, and as seeing that I have not installed" them all yet, which is lame, certain parts of bryce are missing (i.e. source textures, tree presets). This is easily fixable, but I can't be bothered right now, But I've only had one crash and it's not reproducible thus far. And the WORST bug in 5.5 on the mac was that there was a 70% chance of crashing if you used the select by family tool. It works fine in BR6. Lovin it, cost me $35 (29 for platinum membership which I've already cancelled rebill for, $6 for bryce 6) Which is about how much I'd spend on a nice dinner. Excpet it SAVES me money because I won;t go to a nice dinner becaue I'm playing with bryce :D


Quest ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 2:51 AM

So far, very fast machine stats have been mentioned, some people just don’t have that speed in their machines. What would you say for those whose machines are nowhere near yours?


Mahray ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 2:52 AM

Lovin' it, apart from trying to solve very tricky (perhaps impossible) geometry puzzles.

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Quest ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 2:56 AM

So your machine Mahray? Fast? Slow? Somewhere in between?....Thanks!

 


tom271 ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 3:22 AM

I like it very much and i'm happy...



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Mahray ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 4:45 AM

Sorry Quest, had to shut down for a storm.

My box is a Celery 2.8 with 1 gig ram.

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Ignore the shooty dog thing.


CorwinRathe ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 9:47 AM

Here's my comp stats:

Windows XP Pro  (SP2)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Processor 4800+
Mobo: ASUS Deluxe SLI
Memory: 3072MB DDR RAM, PC3200, 400Mhz (Corsair)
ATI X1900 XFX, 512 megs RAM

really no issues or crashes yet. Seem pretty solid so far.


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2006 at 10:36 AM

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Much more stable than even B5.5 (and I only had one problem with the tree lab with 5.5).  I'm lovin' the speedup in the render engine.  This is an image I started in 5.5, rendered at premium with DOF, True Ambience and Ray Tracing.  In 5.5 it rendered in 13.6 hours.  In B6 it rendered in 5 hrs 18 minutes.

My machine is an Intel P4 3.4 Ghz, 4 Gb of DDR2 3200+ RAM 533 Mhz with 256 Mbs of Video Ram on an nVidia 6600 AGP video card.

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striving ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2006 at 12:07 PM

Lovin it too. Had 1 crash. That was me getting silly with the Daz Studio. Like AS, I was bouncing around to fast. But DS with B6 has worked pretty well so far.

The coolest thing is, With HDRI, I am now attempting to complete an image I have had sitting for over a year that I think will finally see the light of day!! WOOHOO. lol.

I am pretty impressed with Bryce's stability and new features. Well done DAZ.
-B


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2006 at 2:05 PM

I didn't get to play with mine yet.  I'm soooo jealous :(  ;)

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xoconostle ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2006 at 2:22 PM · edited Mon, 23 October 2006 at 2:26 PM

I'm "in between" computers as my real computer is fried and my vroom-vroom new one is in shipment, so I installed Bryce 6 on my workplace laptop, a five-year old Dell that basically sucks. :-)

However, Bryce 6 runs fabulously on it. Very stable, reasonable render times. I can't say that I've seen a speed increase in render time, but this is undoubtedly due to the old low-grade laptop, not anything to do with B6's coding. I'm very excited about seeing how it runs when the new comp arrives ... dual core here we come!

I'm more of a Carrara user but my enthusiasm for Bryce was re-invigorated by this release. I'm going to review Agent Smith's comments on HDRI as my experiements with it thus far have not been as impressive as in Carrara, but I'm still going to give Bryce's HDRI implementation a fair trial over time.

Some have criticized this release for not having enough new features or for not having improved some long-standing ones, but if DAZ focussed on general stability and increased render times at the expense of the gee-whiz factor, I for one think that's more appropriate. It will serve the longevity and future of the app. I look forward to January's point upgrade.


Eugenius ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2006 at 2:56 PM

Im' truly enjoying Bryce 6 and experimenting with HDRI and trying exporting boolean objects into other applications. I also will be going over AS web links to better understand Bryce's HDRI re quirements. As far as modelling, on parts of a model I made in 5.5 made it to the other apps partly because it's set up differently than what Bryce 6 requires, but it still works! The rendering is much faster, making Bryce 6 that much more enjoyable to use. I recently upgraded from a G3 to a G4 Dual Processor, 2 GIGs Ram.


Spawn2002 ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 1:37 AM

Ok new to Bryce & can only say not overly impressed.Mainly due to lengthy render times compared to other apps.

Machine specs:

2400XP Athlon,XP Pro SP2(slower than SP1 IMHO),1024MB DDR,Radeon 9550(256MB DDR)

Any ideas on speeding Bryce up would be apreciated 'cause it may just be my ignorance of the proggy.


foleypro ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:00 AM · edited Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:08 AM

Ok...

 

First things first..

Maybe a Pic would be nice to see what you are trying to do..?

What type of models and Materials R U useing...

Are you are trying to WHAT........?

 

Hello....?

 

In any other Major 3D forum they already would have had you for Breakfast and have been laughing until MAY...

 

So I will be nice and say "Hey" lets get together here and tell me what is going on my friend"...?


tom271 ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:01 AM · edited Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:03 AM

It just could be you don't have enough ram....    I got 2GB...   Try getting 2GB.. you'll see the difference....



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foleypro ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:05 AM

I have used this same Machine for the Last 3 beta cycles of Bryce...

 

Can You say slam me...

I am saving for the next Genre of Machines and I am told I only need $5600.00 USD to get a Slammin machine..

 

Time to make some more content for the Masses...


ek-art ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 2:07 AM

I'm totally loving Bryce 6 :)

The option to organize libraries and folders easily, the HDRI, the fact that DS figures import at a decent size, the visible toolbar, hyperthreading, everything! No crashes so far...

Machine specs:  P4,3GHZ, 800FSB, 2MB L2 Cache, 1 GB RAM, ATI X600 128 Mb PCI Express, 120 Gb 7200 RPM 8 Mb Cache, SATA 150.

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Spawn2002 ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2006 at 7:27 AM

Sorry FoleyPro,was actually fiddling again with Bryce.Have gained a speed increase by twiddling with the rendering settings.As to picture types,just basic DS import sort of stuff.Large textures on some,so mainly my fault more than likely.:( Will say one major prob with the whole deal,would mainly be in DS.Other versions NEVER gave me a worry with OpenGL,this version though won't render in anything 'GL above the minimum setting.

Will keep the forum posted on any progress & how I achieved it.

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Quest ( ) posted Wed, 25 October 2006 at 10:06 PM

So! There are no problems with Bryce 6? Is this what I'm to beleive? Bryce 6 is perfect?

 


foleypro ( ) posted Wed, 25 October 2006 at 10:28 PM

Nope,

Small Problems that will be fixed in the 6.1 update...


Spawn2002 ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 1:09 AM

Bryce 6 for the money is a great bargain.Judging by all the comments,on a relatively fast machine,renders at a decent speed.By comparison to other rendering engines,my experience has shown Bryce to be the slowest.Granted though(in fairness)this has been since the incorporation of DS.IMHO anyway.Add Carrara's engine to Bryce & things may be better.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 2:08 AM

My money says DAZ won't add a 2nd rendering engine inside of Bryce.
But...then again, 2 seconds after "I bet" that DAZ did not buy Eovia, it was officially announced that they had....

With DAZ announcing an SDK for Bryce 7, sooner or later I would think we would have a way to render our Bryce scenes with 3rd party rendering engines, whether they be free (yafray) or retail (Maxwell). And, I would bet that one day DAZ will give ua a way to render Bryce scenes in Carrara.

Okay...I'll stop betting now.

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Rochr ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 5:25 AM

I wouldn´t bet on Maxwell i´m afraid. They´ve cancelled development on a lot of the initial plugs, including Bryce a long time ago.

But given the past and current health of the C4D plug and Next Limit as a company, perhaps you should be celebrating instead. ;) 

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 5:39 AM

Lol...okay, okay, we'll stick to the free renderers, especially anything scanline, for the users wanting speed.  ;o)

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Spawn2002 ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 7:08 AM

Good points.Just can't understand why with Bryce's excellence in other areas,it should be a slow renderer.Seems a pity,that B6 didn't have a fairly more significant increase in this area.IMHO.:)


AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 7:52 AM

It's a raytracing renderer, slow but accurate, which is true no matter what program you are using a raytracer in, that's just the nature of that kind of engine.

But, that said, we all still hope for speed improvements. DAZ took a direction in B6 that they had to take eventually anyway, which was support for dual cores, hyper-threading, etc. Which has worked out great for those users that have those capabilities.

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foleypro ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 9:45 AM

40-60% Faster renders over 5.01 and 5.5c...Thats seems to be a fairly Significant increase to me...


Rochr ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 9:59 AM

Actually, Bryce aint really that bad if we compare with the above, Maxwell.
Sure, you have full GI and physically based lighting in Maxwell, but interior scenes are ridiculously slow and the noise never really clears up.
It´s pretty much necessary to use image enhancement software to get acceptable results in an acceptable amount of time. And we´re talking screen resolution images here. The program still have a very hard time rendering out anything larger than A3, no matter how much RAM you put into the machine.

Take these two scenes for example, which took around 60 hours each to render, in this resolution. And they´re still not entirely noise free.

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wheatpenny ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 10:11 AM
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Well that's what Lightwave is for, to render those kinds of scenes...




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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 7:20 PM

cough....60 hours...I just don't go there anymore. (unless I am rendering out for magazine sized print)

Beautiful renders, though.

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Incarnadine ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 8:10 PM

I remember those (grin)

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foleypro ( ) posted Thu, 26 October 2006 at 10:49 PM

I dont like to go beyound 5 minutes per frame...


Sarissi ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 10:31 AM

This is my first post in this forum, and it is rare for me to post here at rosity, due to fear of being banned (heard some horror stories of folks being banned for no good reason).

That said, I started with Daz Bryce 5, then 5.5, and now 6. So far I love it.

Primary system: Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2, Athlon XP3200+ 400 Mhz FSB, 2 GB Corsair TwinX DDR400, Windows 2000 Pro SP4, MSI nVidia GeForce FX5500 256 MB 8X AGP. This is what I have B6 installed on. DirectX 9.0C, and OpenGL 1.5

Backup/secondary: Gigabyte GA-7IXEH, Socket A Athlon 1.1 Ghz, 512 MB PC133, Win98SE/2000 Pro SP4 dual boot, GeForce MX440 SE 64 MB.

So far, I have no problems with Bryce 6, and the rendertimes have been greatly inproved over 5 and 5.5c

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Rochr ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 10:58 AM · edited Fri, 27 October 2006 at 10:58 AM

Quote - This is my first post in this forum, and it is rare for me to post here at rosity, due to fear of being banned (heard some horror stories of folks being banned for no good reason).
 

Welcome.

I think those were just stories.There have been some bannings, but that´s the last action taken by the mods here and there have also always been good reasons for a banning. 
I don´t think you´ll find a friendlier bunch than the ladies & gentlemen hanging out here, including the moderators. :)

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ariannah ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 11:53 AM

Quote - (from foleypro) Nope, Small Problems that will be fixed in the 6.1 update...

foley, I think the world of you (& enjoyed meeting you at SIGGRAPH 2005), ;-].....but I wouldn't classify the problem I'm experiencing with B6 (& have reported as a serious bug), as "small".

If I import an .obj file (and possibly other file types - I haven't tested this out yet), I can no longer make any changes to IBL/HDR in the Sky Lab.  In fact, the HDR section no longer functions or is editable at all.  I have to quit Bryce and begin a new scene to have this feature once again work.  However, once I import the .obj file, the problem recurs every single time.

Most of us do tweak and make changes after setting up our scene.  It's extremely frustrating not to be able to progress with a scene using HDR with this huge, problematic bug.  At least it's a serious problem on my dual G5 running Tiger.

But I am thrilled to once again be able to run Bryce on my Mac.  Once I upgraded to tiger, B5 had major problems and was virtually unusable.

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foleypro ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 12:14 PM

Sorry about that..

I can only speak about what I have seen on the PC...

 

Especially nice to hear from you again...


ariannah ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 12:38 PM

No worries foley, how could you know unless you read every single bug report over at DAZ, lol.
I hope it will be fixed in the next SR.  If not, I'll just hunt down Dar and threaten her with more poetry from pumeco. grin

Foley, I hope by seeing you still have your screen name, it bodes well for your name's copyright fight.  I've been following your thread but realize you probably can't discuss it much.  Please hang in there - many of us are pulling for you.

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foleypro ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2006 at 1:22 PM

 

Thanks so much for the support it IS Greatly appreciated....

Yes I was told to stop talking about in a Public forum...

 

But so far so good...


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hein ( ) posted Tue, 31 October 2006 at 11:05 PM

1st attempt: Default scene, default sphere (1 pc) , hit render button, wait 5 10 20 40 50+ minutes , done. XP3000 1.5Gb mem Nvid 6800 256Mb WinXP Pro SP2

2nd attempt: Default scene, default sphere (1 pc) , hit render button, wait 5 10 20 + minutes , done. XP64 3000 1Gb mem Nvid 7300 256Mb WinXP Pro SP2 <- new PC , nothing but Windows running

That's a bit overdoing it timewise, even 5 and 5.5 weren't this bad, uninstalled B6, recovered 800+ Mb drive space. Glad I only wasted $6.

 

 


Erlik ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 12:59 AM

hein, there's something seriously wrong there. Default sky/scene at 1024x768, 1 sphere. Hit render button and it's done in 7 seconds, together with antialiasing. P IV 1.7, 1 GB RAM, XP Pro SP2. Athlon XP64 3800 with 2GB RAM is roughly three times faster.

-- erlik


Mahray ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 1:14 AM

Hein - where you using HDRI lighting at all?  When you import a HDRI image, the quality defaults to 50 (which is a bit of a bug in my opinion), which could lead to ridiculous render times.

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Sarissi ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 7:06 AM

Pay attention to the render quality settings, as I found the Default was Premium!


hein ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 9:38 AM

It's the Bryce's "after a new install" default opening scene , Quality=normal Optimization=normal


foleypro ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 10:09 AM

Did you let Bryce install Daz Studio...?

 

I agree there is something wrong but I dont think it is Bryce(Unless you got a corrupted download).


dan whiteside ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2006 at 12:39 PM

While this is probably not hien's problem, I do know a case where this can happen. On some PCs (like my Pentium-D DP 2.8/WinXPro/2Gig), if the screen saver kicks in or the PC goes into Sleep Mode, B6 render speeds slows dramatically, say on the order of -90%. This will continue to happen until you reload Bryce.You can tell when this happens because you have to wait a long time or make many clicks to get the render to stop. I just turn all that stuff off and kill the monitor with it's off switch on long renders. This doesn't present a problem on a P4 SP 2.8/WinXPro/1Gig. Go figure... Best; Dan


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