Looking at the new P47 by Bazze, I'm wondering why there are Japanese kill marks on a plane that never flew in that theater? This is supposed to based on a specific plane, "My Gal Sal", that only flew in Europe. So why would the modeler make a texture that wasn't authentic? Makes me wonder.

Maybe because of copyrights?

Copyrights by whom? The Army Air Corp? By making it 99% authentic they would have already violated any copyright there might be.

The P47 flew in the pacific with 413th Fighter Squadron, part of the 414th Fighter Group, not many missions before the war ended though....the thing with military history is you can say X or Y isn't authentic looking but in reality soldiers, sailors and airmen very rarely left anything as standard and it maybe there was more than one P47 "my gal sal"......Steve

I think the world is going seriously crazy if people start worrying about copyright on the paint job of a sixty-year old fighter plane. The people that make model aeroplane kits would have been out of business years ago.

On my wishlist. Great little model.

Attached Link: http://www.airpirates.com/gallery/my_gal_sal

Well there was a B-17 named "My gal Sal," so who knows. "My Gal Sal" was apparently a popular tune of the era as well. Unless the Bu. numbers depicted match those of the ETO aircraft and it's a definitive fact that said aircraft never made it to the Pacific then... It doesn't seem beyond all reason that some Jug driver went to the Pacific and appropriated the name for whatever reason. Of course, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. As Steve suggests, it's hard to rule anything out, especially in the middle of two wars :-)

Many folks do not require authentic textures because they are merely rendering a generic scene, not meant to be an actual historically accurate depiction of a certain event. Anyone wishing to have perfectly historically accurate textures can do the research, then use the uv templates to paint all the textures they want. It makes you appear much more savvy about your art to do your own textures. 8^) Good luck on your air history projects. Dan

Sure, many folks do not require authentic textures. And others do. My point was that the man went to the trouble to make it as authentic as possible, then put kill marks for the wrong theater and left off a digit on the tail number. To me it's thumbing your nose at the pilot of that aircraft. To each his own I suppose, I won't buy the model though.

Contact the creator. He's the only one who can tell you what he was thinking. He might appreciate the corrections since as you say, he obviously tried to make a high quality model. Seems like that would be the logical first step?

I know someone who did, and he didn't care. I also found from that person that he put kill marks on both sides of the fuselage, which isn't correct to my knowledge, and he put his onw name under the cockpit window.

Bazze makes great airplane models, and he paints superb textures for them. Then he goes on to sell them at a price that cannot be beat. If you require a museum quality model, I am sure that you can find one. I am also sure that it will set you back a hundred dollars or more. I have no problem with paying the price for Bazze's models and making a texture or two to be able to illustrate different scenes.

Attached Link: http://www.lwg3d.org/v3/meshes.php?item=733

"I know someone who did, and he didn't care." Ah well then... It sounds almost as if it's as much a matter of your taking offence at his attitude than the issue of the model itself. If I found the model otherwise suitable, I'd do as others suggest and make the minor cosmetic changes. I sense that you have a deep respect for the subject and the men who flew the aircraft so for you what seems like a cavalier attitude by the creator is an overriding concern. I can respect that. You might find this particular link interesting. Hopefully you can see the page without joining but it's free and they have some of the best free aircraft I've found--useable in Poser by converting with PoseRay (http://mysite.verizon.net/sfg0000/index.htm).

holy shit.. I'm finding this thread more than a year after it was created.

I can't remember anyone contacting me about this issue and even if "somebody you know" did I don't think a responded with an "I don't care" attitude.

I ususally post WIPs of my models at military-meshes.com (where a lot airplane buffs and rivet counters hang out) and take into account all the comments I receive. It's a great place for getting honest feedback on airplane and military models.

When a model is purchased via colacola.se (my site) then the texture is available in layered psd format. This makes it extremely easy to change or improve the texture.

I'm a bit surprised that you didn't contact me directly instead of refering to a source such as "somebody you know".

I don't know how one can say P-47s were in the wrong theater. "Jugs" were present in both theaters in WWII. P-47s did a lot of escort duty for the B-29's all the way from Saipan to their targets in Japan and back. One of the top aces in the Pacific was Lt.Col. Neel Kearby CO of the 348th Fighter group he is credited with 22 kills all flown in a Jug (P-47) he was also awarded the Medal of Honor.

Then you have at least 1 model American plane we shipped to Russia, that would have Red Stars (not to mention a B-29 that got, er, 'appropriated' by the Russians..copied down to a mysterious hole in the plane..;) With the tens of thousands of planes that flew in the war, maybe there were more than one 'my gal sal' (you know, like the one about the Iliad not being written by Homer, but another author of the same name..;) Lend Lease (American planes, ships, etc 'borrowed' by the British, etc) and on and on.

then there were captured planes by both sides, repainted with the opposing side's colors and logos.

Well, if it's that big a deal, I supopse Bazze has swastikas (or even fasces, if you want to get technical..;) that could be added. I'd ask him.