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Subject: Antique Gas Station


muralist ( ) posted Thu, 18 January 2007 at 11:58 AM · edited Fri, 04 October 2024 at 5:21 PM

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Coming soon; uploaded this morning.

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=53443

Classic American Gas Station and Environment figure and props for Poser 6 and 7.

This is a scale model of an early twentieth-century automobile service station in Augusta County, Virginia.
This model and environment can be easily integrated with Celeste's Diner, available separately.  The lighting and background simulates morning on the first day of Spring at that location.

Each of the fifteen doors, stormdoors and windows can be opened and closed via dials.  The fuel levels in the gas pumps can be raised and lowered, and the sign out front can swing in the breeze. 

Original meshes and unique, historically accurate texture, bump, displacement and opacity maps bring the highway crossroads to life in your artwork.  The station branding is customizable:  pump and sign logos in red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and white are included and can be selected with a simple materials change.  Meshes, uvs, textures, and poser files optimized for efficient rendering and animation.

The Service Station and terrain are modeled from real world data and suitable for any scene from 1930 to the present.  If you are familiar with Poser shaders, you can alter the materials and make it shiny and new, or rough it up and run it down.  The environment may be used for any scenes requiring a stretch of highway:  car meets, races, traffic, airport runway, show off the new coupe, stage a gangster shootout, hold up the station, or convert it to an antique shop.

The gas station will be available here in a week or so.  The diner is available now at http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=52977


Helgard ( ) posted Thu, 18 January 2007 at 1:19 PM

Muralist, I think you should put up that picture of the real place here. It is really a nice building and your model is very very close. 


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muralist ( ) posted Thu, 18 January 2007 at 1:31 PM · edited Thu, 18 January 2007 at 1:32 PM

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Ok.


cherokee69 ( ) posted Fri, 19 January 2007 at 10:17 AM

I sure hope this turns up real soon in the marketplace. I hat that Rosity takes so long to make something like this available. I want it now..LOL.

Thanks Greg, it looks awesome.


muralist ( ) posted Fri, 19 January 2007 at 11:28 AM

Quote - I sure hope this turns up real soon in the marketplace. I hat that Rosity takes so long to make something like this available. I want it now..LOL.

Thanks Greg, it looks awesome.

 

It is in testing here at Renderosity and will be in my store at 
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=53443 when they finish.

It is available right now at Vanishing Point.
http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/productdetail.asp?ProductID=244


muralist ( ) posted Fri, 19 January 2007 at 1:31 PM

And at ContentParadise:
http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/antique_gas_station_product_26542


VanishingPoint ( ) posted Fri, 19 January 2007 at 5:48 PM

Attached Link: Antique Gas Station at Vanishing Point

Or just click the link. No copying & pasting needed: [Vanishing Point](http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/productdetail.asp?ProductID=244) [ Content Paradise](http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/antique_gas_station_product_26542).


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cherokee69 ( ) posted Fri, 19 January 2007 at 8:14 PM

I couldn't wait for Rosity, so I got it from Vanishing Point and it's great. I love the whole set so far.

Greg, what's next? And, I'm sending you an IM.

Thanks


iloco ( ) posted Sun, 21 January 2007 at 5:26 AM

Has this product been tested in Vue 5 or Vue 6 inf. :)

ïÏøçö


muralist ( ) posted Sun, 21 January 2007 at 5:57 AM

Quote - Has this product been tested in Vue 5 or Vue 6 inf. :)

 

If someone has I hope theyll post here -- I haven't used Vue but it does work (with some effort) in Terragen 2.

I know it works well in Poser 6 and 7.  Try it in Vue and let us know your results:).


iloco ( ) posted Sun, 21 January 2007 at 6:17 AM · edited Sun, 21 January 2007 at 6:19 AM

Lol....In the last 2 weeks I have bought 2 models that textures didnt work in vue but did in poser and bryce.
  That is why I am now asking before buying to be sure I dont get into a bad situation again trying to make models work in Vue that is just to time demanding. :)

btw its a very nice model and I live in Va and remember two of these type gas stations in my area of which have been torn down.   They were quite common in earlier yrs. :)

ïÏøçö


Helgard ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 1:50 PM

Iloco,

Which version of Vue are you using. I have tested all the Vanishing Point models in Vue, and they work fine in Vue 5 and 6 Infinite, but one or two of the models have problems with the textures in Vue d Esprit. This is not the models fault, but a bug in the import with Vue d Esprit. If you import the object file, and apply the textures manually in Vue d Esprit, then it does work fine though.

Helgard


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iloco ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 3:20 PM

I am using Vue 6 Inf.   Have you tryed this model and do you have any texture problems with it.
  Will it import into vue 6 as a pz3 and textures dont need a major overhaul for it to work is what I'd like to know. :)
 Thanks for the reply.

ïÏøçö


dlk30341 ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 6:09 PM

Iloco/Helgard - couple things are amiss here(just bought the model)

1.  It uses the same folder as the Celeste Diner which in turn has over written several textures from the diner - some textures have the same name but with different size maps - bad thing.  I'm begging you vendors PLEASE rename your textures for different models - now I have no clue what to do - keep the diner - loose the gas station(texture wise)

2.  The ONLY way this imports into Vue6I even looking remotely close to the promo is using the poser shader tree - otherwise the textures are totally fubared.  The gas station tanks arent even close, just as a start.

3.  If importing into Vue as usual must turn off reflections & highlights to zero(no big deal used to that)


iloco ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 7:07 PM

Thanks dlk30341.
 Sorry you having problems but am glad you told me what I wanted to hear before buying a model that I would have problems with and then go through all the trouble of asking for a refund because it doesn't work.

 I had this to happen to me just last week at another Market Place that I want mention. I asked for a refund and didnt get any kind of email reply back.  That was my last time at that site. :)

These type models should be tested in Vue as most Vue users buy poser models and expect them to export as pz3's and then import into Vue as they look in Poser. :)   If they will not work as in poser there should be a readme saying they will not work in Vue.   Would save a lot of problems for the buyers. :)
 

ïÏøçö


cherokee69 ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 8:40 PM

The Readme file does state that this model is for Poser 6 and Poser 7.


mrsparky ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 8:53 PM

Ignoring the issue of texture names, Vue doesn't always import Poser models properly.  

One easy workaround is this. Copy all the textures from (in this example) the Gas station to a new folder. Export the model as an .OBJ in Poser save it to the folder where you put the maps. 

Now import that OBJ into Vue. It should work fine. Obviously you may need to adjust things like transparency and reflection maps, but it works. 

I find Vue often seem to over highlight things. Because of the differences in what ARE two seperate programmes. 

"These type models should be tested in Vue ".
Umm. Not really. These models do say clearly for Poser. 
I don't expect when I buy Kawasaki parts that they'd fit a Honda. 
So making a model work in another programme  is really a good faith gesture, and knowing the vendor involved he'll help as will other folks to solve the problems.  

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



Helgard ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 9:46 PM

"These type models should be tested in Vue as most Vue users buy poser models and expect them to export as pz3's and then import into Vue as they look in Poser. :)   If they will not work as in poser there should be a readme saying they will not work in Vue.   Would save a lot of problems for the buyers. :)"

I tend to disagree. As a Vue user myself, I use all my own models in Vue and I do test them in Vue, but my readme files do say that my models are for Poser 4 and above.

Vue has a Poser importer built in to the program. If the model appears correct in Poser, but imports incorrectly into Vue, then that is the programs problem, not the person who made the model. As far as I know, Muralist does not own or use Vue, he uses Terragen. 

So why should it be expected of a merchant who doesn't own a program in which to test a model that he should know if the model works in Vue. And if he does, shouldn't he also then test the model for import into Carrera. And see if it imports into Bryce, DAZ|Studio, etc. 

So you can see where this is going. There are too many programs, variables, and factors to say that a model designed for one program will work in another. But that said, if anyone ever wants to know if one of our models works in Vue, I will test it for them and let them know. Just because I am a nice guy and I like happy customers. :)


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muralist ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:23 AM

The point of using the same textures is to cut down on duplicates and save texture memory.  Also the texture maps are improved, for example the driveway for the Antique Gas Station is made better.  Which ones are resized?


iloco ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:57 AM

I guess my point is I buy a lot of models that say made for poser but they export and import into vue with our any problems.
  Take for example the dark anvil models made for poser.  I ahve no problem at all with these in vue.
 The same for all the models I buy from Daz that are poser made.  I am able to export and import these to use in vue with out problems.

  I do like the gas station model but why buy when people want to be offensive and not try and help both partys to get it working so all can enjoy.

  Mrsparky I am sure what you say may be the workaround for this but after reading the problem dlk had I am still going to pass untill someone tells me it will work as a pz3 exported out of poser.
   I dont have money and time to spend making things work when all I ask is a simple question will it work or not.  Yes or No is all I need to know. :)  Saves both partys a lot of time and trouble.

btw I am not into modeling and dont know anything about it so a lot of problems I dont understand what people are talking about.  I only know what works and what dont work. :)

ïÏøçö


muralist ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 6:09 AM · edited Wed, 24 January 2007 at 6:10 AM

There are several people in this thread trying to help you.  Who is trying to be offensive?  They have said that you can get it to work, in fact the model should work fine in any program that uses .obj format models (which means that about any program on the market will do).  Its the texture shaders that may have to be adjusted. 

The model will work anywhere, and the textures will. They are in common jpeg and tif format.  If there is a compatibility problem, it is in the difference between Vue shaders and Poser shaders.  And the guys here have said that they have figured out how to fix that.  The model is ten bucks.  Buy it and try in Vue.  If it doesn't work right,  post here and we will help you.

As I said I did it to get it to work in Terragen2; in fact I'm considering making an addon for TG2 to include.  I don't use Vue so I haven't made them specifically for Vue.  


iloco ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 6:50 AM

Can someone be nic e enough to give a step by step explanation how to do this.  If this model will work without a lot of complications getting it to look in Vue as it does in Poser I will be glad to buy it because there is a gas station just a couple miles from me exactly like this model.   These have about all disappeared. :)

When people start laying balme on me that it will work and I dont know how I think they feel I am stupid and should not even have a 3D solfware program to play with.   I am not as computer savy or a guru like most who know it all.    All I ask is to explain how you make it work Seeing is beleiving for me. :)

 I am not ill at anyone but do like to know that something will work or it will not work.  If its going to take me all day to tweek a model to work then I be better to buy the ones I know will work. :)

ïÏøçö


muralist ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 6:57 AM

"there is a gas station just a couple miles from me exactly like this model"
The original is on Virginia Route 865, Waynesboro vicinity, Augusta County, VA.  Is this the same one?


mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 7:08 AM

"Yes or No is all I need to know. :)"

Yes. 

The issue here is as Muralist describes - there are compatability issues between Poser Shaders and Vue. Thats easy enough to fix. 

What I will do [if Helgard doesn't beat me to it :) - waves at Helgard] is make up a native Vue version. Though this will be after I prepare the new Dark Anvil products for the marketplaces this is happening today. 

Can't be much fairer than that considering Muralist doesn't have Vue.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 7:29 AM

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"Can someone be nic e enough to give a step by step explanation how to do this"
  1. Load poser

  2. load the model.

  3. export as .OBJ (see screenshot)

  4. Load Vue.

  5. Import the model. 

Notes: I'm using P4 on this PC here here so your export screen will look different.
You may need to tweak the materials in Vue. 

"When people start laying balme on me "
No offence is intended here. Everyones trying to help. 
The issue is like you say these are very complex programmes. 

Just because a programme has the ability to import another programmes filetype it doesn't always mean it will work properly. For example with Vue just upgrading the programme to a different build can give different results on an import.

One of the joys of this hobby is learning to tweak :)  

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



iloco ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 7:33 AM

mualist the one I know about is near Chilhowie Va where I live.   There use to be one in Pulaski, Va that has been torn down.  :)
 This design was quite common in the early years of selling gas. :)
btw you should  offer a texture set that resembles old worn out wood and stuff for your model.  I think it looking old would help your sells but then again what do I know...:)

mrsparky that would be fair enough......     These compatibility issues are a nitemare for people like me that only want a model to work and not have to spend a lot of time tryuing to get them looking as advertised.   Much appreciated if you do the conversion.
Would people be able to change the textures in the vob to older looking wood and such for the model.  I think a rusted tin look for the roof would be more approporite for what I would want to use it for.

ïÏøçö


muralist ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 7:40 AM

"btw you should  offer a texture set that resembles old worn out wood and stuff for your model.  "
Ok.


mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 8:41 AM

"Would people be able to change the textures in the vob to older looking wood and such for the model. "

Normally yes. You can change it like you would any other texture in Vue, using Vues material editor on the right hand side of the screen. 

Though please remember it all depends on the original model, how the artist has grouped, textured imported the model etc etc.   
   
I've only had a brief look at this particular model today to try and help you and I reckon that won't be a problem here. Muralist makes good models. 

Can't say  when I (or another member of the VP team) will be doing the conversion. I'm trying to juggle some work on the new Dark Anvil products and the day job. So please bear with me - I havn't yet discovered a way of cloning myself yet :)

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



iloco ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 9:23 AM

lol I thought you were 100% bound to the computer and graphics......:)
  Some of you guys who work get more computer time in than me and I am on from 6 to 9 daily 7 days a week.   I am  retired and still cant keep up. :)

  NP on  when it will be ready.   I am looking forward to Dark Anvils poser models.  I prefer them in poser format than vob because of being able to export and use in other applications. :)    I have never had a problem with his models and Vue. :)

Guys don't think I am complaing about your work.  I like good models such as the gas station. We dont get enough of these kind of models,  but do want to know if any problems with the models and Vue before buying and then having to spend so much time making them work when I can get from other sourses and they work as I think they should.    I do understand about different programs causing problems and thats why I ask before jumping in a dn then find it can not be used in my programs. :)
  Hope you understand where I am on this. :)
I want to see good models so everyone can enjoy. :)

ïÏøçö


cherokee69 ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:05 PM

I'm surprised at Rosity for taking so long to get this in the market place since it's already available at Vanishing Point, Content Paradise and 3D Commune. By the time Rosity starts to sell it, everyone will have already had a chance to buy it elsewhere.


VanishingPoint ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:32 PM

There is one point that everyone is missing: both Celeste's Diner and the Antique Gas Station use procedural shader-nodes as textures. For the most part, Poser's shaders are not supported in other programs, with the exception of Vue's ability to "import shader trees".
 
Dark Anvil's products use regular texture maps, which makes them easy to export from Poser and import into another program... like mrsparky posted.
 
We will look at adding better labels to our products so customers know if the product uses texture maps or procedural-node textures.


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muralist ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:50 PM · edited Wed, 24 January 2007 at 5:53 PM

Terragen2 also uses shaders; most 3d rendering programs do.  To use in TG2 I just duplicated the shaders that I used in Poser.  Worked fine.


cherokee69 ( ) posted Sat, 27 January 2007 at 12:22 PM

I'm really surprised this hasn't made it in the store yet. It's been 9 days and stuff that was posted here after that is already in the store. What's up Rosity?


cherokee69 ( ) posted Wed, 14 February 2007 at 5:01 PM

What ever happened to this?


mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 14 February 2007 at 5:32 PM

It's still on sale at Vanishing Point and Content Paradise. 

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



cherokee69 ( ) posted Wed, 14 February 2007 at 8:37 PM

Quote - It's still on sale at Vanishing Point and Content Paradise. 

Oh, I know that...and at 3D Commune.  I got it from Vanishing Point. Was just wondering why it hasn't shown up here. He did say he submitted it.  Rosity already has his Diner in the store and this model is just as good. Kind of strange it's been for sale on other sites already but Rosity hasn't approved it.


mrsparky ( ) posted Thu, 15 February 2007 at 12:28 PM

Dunno. Have you tried IM'ing and asking ?

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



muralist ( ) posted Mon, 08 October 2007 at 6:00 AM

Attached Link: Antique Gas Station

The Antique Gas Station is available at Renderosity at [ http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=58119&vendor=94968](http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=58119&vendor=94968)


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