i think danamo is angry at the challenge voting debacle (see sticky thread).

Quote -  "Bryce will handle FARRRRRRRRRRRR more detail from it primitives than it will allow in imported detail." Quote from brycetech

My scorpion tank has 195,000 polys. How much more detail do you need? Build it in Wings, render it in Bryce. Only way to go. Bryce is nice. Wings is better.

Yes I know. Heretic. Heretic. blah, blah, blah. But remember. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

More detail? how bout filleted edges   LOL

btw, omg cant believe i didnt check out this thread earlier!

*' More detail? how bout filleted edges   LOL '

*I think you'd need to define 'filleted' edges..........

edges with fillet tool applied to them :tongue1: dunno what its called in wings... its basically the process of rounding of sharp edges

exactly! though my reply was in reply to someone showing off their wings model claiming u couldnt ask for more detail :-P
sooo keep those boolean details comming! :biggrin: I like where ur going with this train model. would love to see it finished some time

Rayraz: Watch this space......

Niiice, u do need to fix the texture pinching on those shock absorber thingy discs though

shock absorber thingy discs 

= Buffers

You're quite right. I'm trying to get a 'used' look on them anyway......
Thanks for looking.

Actually, I noticed a huge error that I have to fix asap......Turns out I've set the buffers and 'license plate' too high so I've got to lower that assembly a couple of units....sigh.

In case anyone's interested, this is much more difficult that the Crystal Palace thing. For a start everything has to be built from scratch and seperate from the main scene file just to save time. Each item then has to go through a 'development' phase to see where I can reduce the byte-size and make it look better. Mutli-rep has only a limited use here.
Thankfully the render times are only seconds or a couple of minutes tops. A high-rez render is about 38 minutes.

I did have a laugh a few days ago though. A friend popped in, noticed my reference photos and told me that he thought my model was looking really good.............even though Bryce wasn't running at the time!

C&Cs welcome as always. ;-)

I dunno.. lol, maybe put together with the wheels and the boiler and stuff?

It has wheels ??????????????????????????

most trains have wheels?

And a nut....to attach the wheels to the train of course, any other varieties on board is another matter completely! ;o) Jenny

This is a cool project...Looking forward to see the final product.  Keep at it Bryster :)

I think a party is in order once this is done.  Rayraz said he'd spring for the bill...thanks m8!  Hehee...looking good.  Great attention to details and accuracy.  You'll need a bottle of champaigne to break on the cow catcher when it's done.  Rayraz said he'd pick up the bill for that too. 

Well....bumper then, lol.   I'm bringing sausage bread and rumaki.  I think I have some time before I need to start cooking :)

As a matter of fact i have a party im goin to 2morrow :-P and thres still room for one hot date on the guestlist....

Thanks, Rayraz!  I accept! ..:lol:

I bet he doesn't look as good in a bikini as I do :)

No skyting Burpee without proof! giggle Jenny!

Oh thanks Boofy, now I have to lose those 8 lbs I gained sitting in front of the computer instead of walking, lol.  I'll get right on it!

Quote - I bet he doesn't look as good in a bikini as I do :)

Seeing is believing! (and that includes both u and bryster )

Hey, if Bryster shows up in a Bikini I want pictures! :-D

BTW the modeling of the train is coming along fantasticly.

Ang: Why thank you! I was beginning to think everyone had lost interest.
And no, I won't be wearing a bikini, but if you want to show us yours..............

lol i havent lost interest... I keep watchin to see if u got any new additions to the model every day!

Lost interest....are you joking Chris! I feel like a kid waiting for xmas. I can hardly wait to see it finished. Each post you make is tantalising, so keep 'em coming!

John - on behalf of all the lurkers!

No lost of interest with me either. Keep up the good work!

LOL, I don't own a bikini. And there's a good hefty reason why. :P

Ang25, men don't like thin girls...they like curvy women.....well, that's what I keep telling myself :)

TB, I'm  quality control and I have not lost one moment of interest....just hanging around till you update so I can inspect all the pieces with my calipers.  Let's see...um...hmmmm....yes...yes...uhuh...looks good :)  Keep 'em coming!

Thankyou, guys! I'm touched!
Now I gotta learn the TE so that I can make the big hook/hitching thingy/couplings on the front....

Quote - LOL, I don't own a bikini. And there's a good hefty reason why. :P

and a nice & soft reason at that

:blushing:

Always look at the bright side

Awesome work B! Looking forward to more.

allright! thats comming along nicely :-D Whats the yellow rod going to be for? :-)

Looking good Chris!  I always imagined the name plate to be larger, but it is as you have it there. This will really come alive when you begin to texture it, I can hardly wait! lol

Here's the latest. It's what I would call an 'Oiler', a device to pass lubricating oil to the various moving parts of the loco. Not highly detailed I grant you, but I have no close-up referance shots that would give me a better idea of what this thing looks like. There are four of them on each side of the smoke box.

BTW, if anyone has a decent .mat that looks like copper I'd love to hear about it.

ooh nice!

Strictly speaking, these pipes are not in exactly the right place due to slight discrepancy with the model, but I've arranged them to do the job and not emulate the real thing.

I now have about 2,700 objects, around 3,750,000 polys and 74mb file size.

Egads man!  That's getting huge already.  Just say 'uncle' and admit to Danamo that he won!!!!   Oops, he had to drop out.  Where are you getting  your dimensions from?  Maybe I should be checking these figures if Danamo isn't going to do it.  Can we trust you?

All teasing aside, I'm impressed by your pipes.  Are you using booleans and then 'C' to create single objects or are all these forms still negative and positive booleans?

Burpee: Danamo won what?
 Dimensions - The only dimensions I have are on a drawing that Danamo was kind enough to send me, but it only has gross sizes and not really fine/highly detailed information.

As my background is in engineering I can look at this kind of drawing and make estimations on how big things are. However, in the main I'm using photographs I hunted down on the net. This means I'm restricted because I can't always get pictures I need that show a particular object at the angle I want. So I'm stuck with extrapolating sizes by comparing various photos.

Inevitably, errors will creep in. When I find an error that causes a problem I have a choice of re-building or working around it. In the case of the 'oilers' there's simply too much work involved in re-building so I've re-designed to what I think is acceptable because on the overall view it makes no difference and with the pipes they might have done this anyway. In fact, I have photos that show that the pipe 'runs' have been changed over the years.

The oiler and pipes were created without using booleans. Obviously the rest of the model does use booleans but in B6 the convert option [C] causes two problems. The first is that the polygon count goes sky high each time you use this option, and the second is that the resulting mesh still leaves a bounding box that matches the original group's size. I find atm that it is best to use the [C] option only when I'm absolutely sure I've finished working on that particular group.

As for trust - you cheeky girl - you can trust me to do the best job that I can within the bounds of the challenge as it was originally set. I don't cheat and I won't lie. 

I do plan though to visit the museum where 4472 has her home and take as many photos as I can. I'm also actively searching for a set of plans so that I can make a highly accurate second model to sell through DAZ or Rendo or RDNA......whoever will accept it.

Thanks for your comments. They are much appreciated, as are those from everyone else who've contributed here.

You know I was joking...unfortunately it was quite late and after a night out of dancing....ooo...my head hurts, lol.

If you use the 'c' function, could you not export it, turn it into a 3ds in some other program and bring it back in or would that negate the Bryce factor?  Those bounding boxes have got to be confusing when they get too large.

I'm still interested in those pipes.  Mayhap I misused the word 'boolean'.  I can't see how to make them except with a zillion metaballs or using a tori/cylinder setup.  Pipes are something I always have to import from someone else's effort but if they can be made easily in Bryce, I'd rather do that.  At least I can be proud that I made it myself.  I suppose I could also go learn to use my hexagon2 (whisling smiley here)