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Subject: Suggested Gallery Policy (nudity)
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You're pissing in the wind Ashley. They didn't humor Casette, and they didn't humor Jim Farris, so why should they humor you?
DPH
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
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My opinion on all the banned pictures/thumbnails is that I have no problems with the site having some standards for want they want and don't want, they are just horrible at implementing them and continually shoot themselves in the foot by insulting contributors and customers of the site in doing so. There's a right and wrong way to do anything and management here is clueless in that regard.
And as far as setting priorities go and professionalism, how about having site software that doesn't continually crash my browser?
Don't want to turn this into a "bash Rendo" thread.
Just can't understand their implementation of their TOS.
Can't see anything in my gallery post that could possibly violate the TOS.
If it was the head, then all Aiko characters would fall foul to this policy.
I think we need some clear guidelines, ie, percentage of eye size in relation to head size, or acceptable proportion of head size to body size.
Let's say eyes represent no more than 5% of head size, or head must be 1/20th of body size.
You can see where it's all going, downhill with hell in a basket. Where it belongs.
The solution is simple..... ban all nudity.
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Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(
Food for thought.....
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Maybe I've been lucky in that I've never had interest in the anime head style or depicting anything that might resemble an underager.From personal experience at having had pictures removed, never here except by me cause they weren't going over, it's often just a case of the wrong person having their finger on the button at the wrong time. I think most artists have a pretty good idea what is cool under any given TOS and try to comply.
As for bashing Rendo, hey if it'll increase my hit counts and comments, I'm all for it. Bash me if you like, it doesn't matter. Just do it on one of my renders. Things like "It could use more nudity," or "Her breasts aren't large enough," could be very helpful to me in my continued quest to waste time.
"I just thought I knew what was cool to post, and what was allowed and what was not."
Exactly. Nobody puts time into a render and posts it somewhere they know it's going to be deleted by management. And its' usually by some itchy-trigger-finger stooge/incompetent that does the deleting or overreacts to some jackass' complaint.
Contrary to (seemingly) popular belief, none of the staff at Renderosity are stooges, trigger-happy, incompetent, evil fascists, or catspaws of the secret right-wing junta of tinfoil hats.
Images are reviewed by a panel of staff and removed, or not, on a majority decision.
None of us enjoy removing images.
If you are ever unhappy with a decision made by the team, you are welcome to contact admin@renderosity.com who will review the decision and take any appropriate action.
Thank you.
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
Most measure charters buy eyes and heads.
As a general rule our eyes do not change in size from 1 year old to 100 year's old.
Realistic adult head is 5 eyes wide 7 heads tall.
Babies 5 x 5ish eyes.
Realistic adult body is about 6 heads tall.
Babes 3 heads tall.
Realistick adults legs 3 heads tall
Babys 1 head tall.
DC,Marvel comics our 8 heads tall
Image comics males our 9 heads tall.
RorrKonn
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Quote - Contrary to (seemingly) popular belief, none of the staff at Renderosity are stooges, trigger-happy, incompetent, evil fascists, or catspaws of the secret right-wing junta of tinfoil hats.
Images are reviewed by a panel of staff and removed, or not, on a majority decision.
None of us enjoy removing images.
If you are ever unhappy with a decision made by the team, you are welcome to contact admin@renderosity.com who will review the decision and take any appropriate action.
Thank you.
How many times in the past 365 days has the admin@renderosity.com reversed a panel's decision? How many times in the past 3650 days have they ever done so? Just so we know whether there is any real poit to the above statement.
David P. Hoadley
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
How many times in the past 365 days has the admin@renderosity.com reversed a panel's decision? How many times in the past 3650 days have they ever done so? Just so we know whether there is any real poit to the above statement.
They don't tell me every time they do this :-) But I can think offhand of at least 2 occasions in the last 6 months that I'm personally aware of.
(The amount of warnings given in a month would normally be anywhere between 10 and 25, just to put it in perspective. Average gallery uploads per month: around 18,000.)
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
"Can we close this thread Karen?"
No, don't do that. I've actually learned a couple things through this thread, about the thumbnail policy, I didn't read the fine print and did it wrong, had the pic pulled, fixed the thumbnail, pic went back up. That's good.
Also found out that there's an appeal policy if you disagree with a deletion decision. These things are good to know.
Somewhat OT but, Karen, you look so cute in your avatar.
I don't think you'd pass the Rendo TOS yourself!
No, I'm not hitting on you, but you are soooooooooo cute.
Don't worry, we live on different continents and many years apart. If I was 20 years younger ...........
Maybe this will prompt you to "shut it down", (though it's all true)
Is this comment a TOS violation? Don't care.
I had written on a thumbnail image for a new work: "This thumb does not show what is not allowed: a nude Vicky in a temple. No swords were harmed during the creation of this image."
The thumb was removed for being "censor-like".
Say what you will, Karen, but this is beyond what was intended, namely the protection of people who have time to browse the net at work and may not be caught red-handed looking at nude pixels. I was so shocked that I deleted my entire gallery as a few other thumbs would probaly get the same kind of treatment. If censorship goes that far, I'll go elsewhere. No more buying from us from the marketplace either.
Meanwhile I got mail, asking me not to give in, and reopen my gallery, but under these conditions, I don't know whether I can.
Quote - As a general rule our eyes do not change in size from 1 year old to 100 year's old.
Realistic adult head is 5 eyes wide 7 heads tall.
Babies 5 x 5ish eyes.
Realistic adult body is about 6 heads tall.
Babes 3 heads tall.
Realistick adults legs 3 heads tall
Babys 1 head tall.
This rules applies to any race in the world???
A 1.5 meter tall adult is a scaled down version of a 2.00 meter adult?
And what about the so called "big heads", they have big legs too??????
And the "small heads"? .........
Stupidity also evolves!
if it was an aiko render that got deleted, then there's not much hope. other sites than this one may also say that aiko looks like a child, altho to me it just looks like a 3D character. if there's a 3d site anywhere in which nobody will complain about aiko things looking like children, I'd like to know about it.
Quote - > Quote - As a general rule our eyes do not change in size from 1 year old to 100 year's old.
Realistic adult head is 5 eyes wide 7 heads tall.
Babies 5 x 5ish eyes.
Realistic adult body is about 6 heads tall.
Babes 3 heads tall.
Realistick adults legs 3 heads tall
Babys 1 head tall.
This rules applies to any race in the world???
A 1.5 meter tall adult is a scaled down version of a 2.00 meter adult?
And what about the so called "big heads", they have big legs too??????
And the "small heads"? .........
Eyes,head rules applies to all races,male and female.
It's just the starting point,you don't half to follow the rules absolutely.
But helps to define a persons age.
Why do we have deferent ratios ?
Whys a face looks male or female ?
Whys one face pretty, ones ugly ?
All these our a "phi" thing.
The rules of phi to characters our a bit long to post here.
But you don't half to follow the phi rules absolutely either.
There's some phi links at Atomic-3D and ya can do a web search.
RorrKonn
http://www.atomic-3d.com
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
Thank you Ashley, I am 34 years old in a couple of months and feeling all of them this last week ;-)
Gongyla: again, people are focusing on one reason for the change. Censor-like thumbnails do not advance consistency across the site, nor a professional image.
I am sorry you felt you "had to" delete your gallery, but confess I can't understand why the requirement to provide a thumbnail that doesn't show breasts, buttocks or genitals, nor text that effectively states "come on in for all the nudity", would motivate you to do so. :-(
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
Quote - if it was an aiko render that got deleted, then there's not much hope. other sites than this one may also say that aiko looks like a child, altho to me it just looks like a 3D character. if there's a 3d site anywhere in which nobody will complain about aiko things looking like children, I'd like to know about it.
Faeriewylde.
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I am sorry you felt you "had to" delete your gallery, but confess I can't understand why the requirement to provide a thumbnail that doesn't show breasts, buttocks or genitals, nor text that effectively states "come on in for all the nudity", would motivate you to do so. :-(
At this point, I'd ask what precisely the difference is between "...text that effectively states "come on in for all the nudity"" and a text that says "Content Advisory" with the subtitle "contains nudity".
No really. I want to know exactly what the difference is. I'm not kidding.
What REALLY buggs me about this new policy, is NOT the censoring of thumbnail images, but the censoring of WORDS!
That, and any chance of appeal has ONLY a 1 in 75 chance of reversal.
DPH
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
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I just deleted my entire gallery. sigh I didn't want to wait for the inevitable email that would have flown my way because it had a half nude Aiko in it. Beside, at 18,000 posts a month, I won't be missed. Hell, 99.9999% of Renderosity members don't know that I even exist. This used to be fun.
Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things! ; )
Back to my original post/point.
I'm not angry about what Rendo did, just a little confused.
This whole thread was started as a tongue-in-cheek joke.
I don't want to change the policy at all, it;s their policy and they can do what they want.
Funny how the people who complain so strongly keep hanging around, and hanging around.
There must be something here that makes them stay.
Renderosity is a great place for poser artists and they'll never please everybody no matter what they do.
I'm staying here because I like it here (simple reason and enough reason in itself)
ps If I was an American I could probably sue Rendo for some sort of defamation. Like the lady who spilt MacDonalds coffee on herself and sued because it was .... "hot"??? But I'm not (hot or American)
I'm a U.S.A.er
When we sign up to Renderosity to become a member we our more or less signing a contract to agree with Renderosity rules.
The law don't care about artist feelings thay would only care about who broke the contract.
So if ya took it to court Renderderosity would win.
Lawyers our the ones setting Renderosity rules.
So no ones sues Renderosity for letting there kids see nudes that some call any nudes pornography.
Christians have been busy and voted alot of Christian politicians in office of late.
Christians our very strick in there beliefs thay would disapprove off 99.9 % of Renderositys Art.
The one thing I like about the net is there our no governments, lawyers, christians, or anyone else that controls it.
I have my own website
I have gotten hate mail from parents cause there kids saw my art
I have gotten hate mail from christians accusing me of being evil
But no governments, lawyers, christians, or anyone else controals my web site
So it's here to stay.
RorrKonn
http://www.atomic-3d.com
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
Keith,
*At this point, I'd ask what precisely the difference is between "...text that effectively states "come on in for all the nudity"" and a text that says "Content Advisory" with the subtitle "contains nudity".
No really. I want to know exactly what the difference is. I'm not kidding.*
One is a standard, unsensationalist thumbnail which states "Content Advisory" and does not contain the words "contains nudity" (unless you refer to the nudity flag itself?) The other appears unprofessional and is inconsistent with policy across the rest of the site.
Gongyla, I'm sorry to hear you feel that way.
David, if more decisions were overturned by Admin, that would mean that the mod and coord team were making wrong decisions more often... Which would definitely not be a good thing.
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
Quote - Keith,
*At this point, I'd ask what precisely the difference is between "...text that effectively states "come on in for all the nudity"" and a text that says "Content Advisory" with the subtitle "contains nudity".
No really. I want to know exactly what the difference is. I'm not kidding.*
One is a standard, unsensationalist thumbnail which states "Content Advisory" and does not contain the words "contains nudity" (unless you refer to the nudity flag itself?) The other appears unprofessional and is inconsistent with policy across the rest of the site.
Yes, I meant the nudity tag. And no personal offense, but that answer is silly because all you've said is that Renderosity's "Come on in for all the nudity" tag is better based on some nebulous concept of "professional".
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> Quote - > ps If I was an American I could probably sue Rendo for some sort of defamation. Like the lady who spilt MacDonalds coffee on herself and sued because it was .... "hot"??? But I'm not (hot or American)
And, according to the merits of the case, she was most definitely in the right. (First of all, she wasn't driving, she was a passenger, and the car had stopped to let her open the the lid of the coffee mug to put milk in.) McDonalds was serving the coffee at a good 12 degrees C above the normal, hot enough, in fact, to cause 2nd degree burns. People sometimes spill coffee on themselves, and people who serve coffee should be aware of the fact, and not serve coffee that is not only too hot to drink, but dangerously hot. McDonalds was serving the coffee so hot because it was, in some way, more convenient for them. They were not only aware of the burn potential, but had settled out of court in a number of cases.
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ps If I was an American I could probably sue Rendo for some sort of defamation. Like the lady who spilt MacDonalds coffee on herself and sued because it was .... "hot"??? But I'm not (hot or American)
And, according to the merits of the case, she was most definitely in the right. (First of all, she wasn't driving, she was a passenger, and the car had stopped to let her open the the lid of the coffee mug to put milk in.) McDonalds was serving the coffee at a good 12 degrees C above the normal, hot enough, in fact, to cause 2nd degree burns. People sometimes spill coffee on themselves, and people who serve coffee should be aware of the fact, and not serve coffee that is not only too hot to drink, but dangerously hot. McDonalds was serving the coffee so hot because it was, in some way, more convenient for them. They were not only aware of the burn potential, but had settled out of court in a number of cases.
How stupid drinking hot coffee in a car. Why not stick to cans of beer like the rest of us careful drivers. Can't burn yourself with beer.
Sue Lawyers get 1/3 of the settlement so if there not sueing someone there not getting paid so thay sue alot.
it's a problem for 100 deferent reasons but there's alot of stupid sueings going on.
Alot of the doctors in a state left cause of it so a hole state was sort on doctors.
Government having problems there huh.
I could go on and on and on with ensamples
RorrKonn
http://www.atomic-3d.com
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
Hi all,
Nude to me as an art. See it in the eyes of an art and there will be nothing wrong about it. Nude "adult" is okay but nude "child" is wrong except nude "baby" heh!
What's about me? i have not much money to buy any poser clothes that suitable. So to the cheapstakes like me, only using "original" cloth for my render. Yeah!... the nude beautiful skin
Quote - Hi all,
Nude to me as an art. See it in the eyes of an art and there will be nothing wrong about it. Nude "adult" is okay but nude "child" is wrong except nude "baby" heh!
What's about me? i have not much money to buy any poser clothes that suitable. So to the cheapstakes like me, only using "original" cloth for my render. Yeah!... the nude beautiful skin
If ya on a budget you could always make ya own close.
Sell them and make some $$$ :)
Anyone have ball park clue about how much people make at the marketplace like Aery Soul ?
RorrKonn
http://www.atomic-3d.com
============================================================
The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
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Maybe OT, but this bizarre thought occured to me.
Child Porn laws are supposedly in place to protect children.
If I do a nude rendering of a child, as far as I calculate, no child was harmed int he process.
If someone does a nude rendering of an adult, but takes photos of a naked child as the texture, not only is a child getting hurt, but that person would be able to pass that off on any 3D site without anyone banning or complaining.
As I said, this is a bit OT. This isn't about the Rendo rules on thumbnails, just a general thought about the laws that are supposed to protect our children. It's a sick world and unfortunate that we even have to spend so much time worrying about such things.
(I'm flagging this post as the very idea is offensive.)
Hope the is the last post to this thread as it's becoming quite OT.
I just saw a post to the gallery of a semi-nude girl about to be dissected tortured by a masked man.
Maybe he/she will get a TOS violation warning, don't know.
And I don't really want ANY pictures censored here. It's just my personal view of things.
But it's funny how sadistic violence seems to be permitted (possibly), but Aiko characters with heads which might be considered as "child like", whatever that means, are a no-no.
Just another thing I can't understand about this site.
I think the probleme here was not the TOS but the "child nudity warning" althought it is a adult person on the image. I agree with the artist, that you need much fantasy to recognize a child at the corpulent woman with the crinkles on the neck.
We have to follow the rules, but admins also have to be objective!!
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The debates are always fun, but it's nothing to lose your head over . . . . :O)
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DPH
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
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Just had my first TOS gallery rejection for "child nudity". A clearly adult woman with huge breasts and massive thighs. A friend pointed out to me that her eyes may have been too big or her head not in the right proportion to her body. Do me a faviour, it was an anime character.Above is a suggested guideline for my new "PRAT" policy, (Purely Rotund or Aged Tarts)
(I hope Rendo takes this with the intended humour it deserves).