I finally gave in today and bought Victoria but am disappointed to say the least. I always work in cartoon + line mode (yes, I know I'm wierd) and in this mode the Victoria figure will not allow me to colour her pupils or irises any colour other than the same as the rest of the eyeball. If I were only making undead zombies I guess it would be OK but for normal people it's totally useless. The obj file has usemtl statements for the pupils and irises but these seem to be overridden in cartoon mode. Any bright ideas before I delete this expensive file? Maz

Is there anything I can do about those dreadful eyebrows?

I can help with the eyes but not the brows. The problem you have with the eyes is that the eyeball covers the iris & pupil. One way around this is to use the gouper tool, click an eye then include material iris and then pupil. create the prop, then do the same for the other eye. set the z trans to .001 on the new props and then parent to the eyeballs.

Thanks for that shadowcat. I've never felt the need to use the grouping tool before, but I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. I wonder why DAZ designed her like that though. Really wierd.

I think they built the eyeball like that so that folks could get a wet look, or better highlights off of a reflective surface. Carolly

"Upper Eyebrows" = 'Brows Gone' morph. "eyebrows" = Head texture Or: "Upper Eyebrows" = Eyebrow transparency map. Same setting as Lash transparency. Or: "Victoria 2" F.A.Q at daz3d.com Hope this helps... Colm...

It looks like my installation of Victoria has been corrupted. I only get about 8 head morphs. All the ones I would have expected, like mouth open, smile, blink etc just aren't there, and nor are any relating to the eyebrows. I guess I'll have to reinstall and try again.

there should be about 150 of them S

Oh and for the original vicky, the morph you're looking for is called "brows in" on vicky 2 it's "brows gone" And yes, the reason for the eyeball is for a more realistic look, same with the eyebrows. This requires transmaps though, which don't show in cartoon /w line. Once you get the upper eyebrows gone, you can set the eyebrow color to the same as the head color if you want no eyebrows at all.

Having communicated with DAZ and also Isaac Newton it seems that my lack of morphs was due to not having upgraded to Poser 4.03. This I have now done and I'm now sinking in a sea of morphs. And, after a lot of searching, I finally found the "brows gone" morph. Thanks to everybody. Maz

Those helpful people at DAZ have suggested another way of getting the pupils and irises to appear in cartoon + line mode. Their approach is to use a magnet to pull them out of the eyeball. I haven't tried it yet as it sounds a bit painful on the poor girl, but I'll try tomorrow.

Ouch, I like my solution better, besides wouldn't a magnet pull the eyeball as well?