Hello everyone,

I propose you a challenge : Buy a little 'one use' camera (i don't know the word in english lol you know that kind of camera you use just one time with the film in it, and go trash after developping).

So buy one of this (about 6€), thake shots in your city (36/24 views) choose the best pics (let's say 5 pics) and scan them (you can surely found someone in your neighbourhood with a flat bed scan).

And so, let's see what we can do with a very minimalistic hardware ! Colors or Black&White ;o)
I'm sure our hardware is really not important, let's work our eyes :oD

What do you think ???

Dear TwoPynts, Bibby, Tom, Short Ribs, Girsempa, Janis, Zorg, Mayda and all the others great photographers i cannot type here because too long lolllllll, I hope to hear you :oD

See ya my friends !
Olivier

Oooh, now that's a great challenge Olivier and will be very interesting to see what everyone can produce with the low end stuff (oh, we just call them disposable cameras!)

Will postwork be allowed after scanning??  Because I fear that is where some people really excel and can make an "ordinary" picture into a great piece of artwork!

I'll go buy one later today or tomorrow and then see if I can get into town for some shots.

Hugs

Chrissy x ♥ x

Dear Chrissy,

I propose to limit postwork has what can be done in darkroom (level, brightness, contrast).

See you
Olivier

This sounds like a pretty fun one mate specially seeing I could do it all in the darkroom but developing color isn't something I've done yet and form what I know of it it's pretty hard... but 1. I dont have the money for a disposable camera and 2. the scanning bit would hinder me and 3rdly time.... though I'd sooo love to do it. (might sort something out though ;) Anyway I've just done some work prints from my first and second B&W film would love to show them but the scanner I have is that bad that it's not worth trying to use.... Great to see you encouraging such activities, I say thing cause I'm loving the darkroom....

Dear Short Ribs,
for your first problem, i offer you a disposable camera, and i will pos it tomorrow to new zealands :OD
and for the second, send me the negatives, and i'll scan it for you :oD

... i'm not joking lol

Olivier

LOL I'm sure there's an easier way to do so I'm testing my terrible scanner now n will share some pics here if I may... but yeah I'll try work something out.

great ! thank you my friend !!! Please be light on postwork as i said to Chrissy ;o)

intersting ! it's ok i think ;o)
i like the 2nd and the 3rd, very nice great tones in the third one !!

very nice !! :OD

Sounds a good idea to me - I'll keep an eye on how this develops :)

cool :o) i hope to see your work too Onslow !

come on ! let's play and have fun :o)

Bookmarking this thread - what a cool idea!
-Lew ;-)

Hi,

This is a great idea, i'm in.
It is always said that pictures are taken by the photographer, not the camera, ... let's see how we can handle that.

regards,

Geoffroy

Excellent idea for a challenge...will come up with something I hope. Always short of time.... ;']

Mods can this be made into a forum challenge if Olivier is OK with that ?

It would mean there is a place to post our pics and a time to do it.  

Checking into that for you Richard.

Getting back to the basics of PHOTOGRAPHY....without the TECH....COOL IDEA!

Sounds like a definite challenge.....I'm game!!!

Joe

ha .. nice idea but .. how to say that : it is not a real challenge ! it's a challenge against yourself !

i mean, there is nohing to win, the goal is not to compare with others to know who make the nicest picture.
The goal is : let's see what we (rr photographers) we can do without hitech, just with our eye and the minimum of hardware.

So, if modos or others want it to be a real challenge, ok.. but it's really not the goal.
Why not create a sticky entry in the forum to post the results and talk about it ?

olivier

thank for participating Joe !

:oD

Yeah, I confess - I'm a little scared off by all the big names here in RendoLand that have said they are going to join in and if it becomes a "real" challenge.... show me the door LOL!!  

I liked the idea of it from the start where we could just post a pic and have others comment on it with regards to compo, light, POV etc., but I fear anything I might put in (which is why I never participate in forum challenges!) will just get lost amongst the many great photographers here.

I'm watching the thread with interest though - at least it proves it was a great idea in the first place Olivier.

Hugs

Chrissy xx

no matter of level here my dear Chrissy, we all play with same hardware ;o)

the goal is to progress, as at each pic we take :o)

hughs too :oD

Don't look at this as a competition....more of a LEARNING experience in my book!

You'll gain new insight for sure!

i agree with you joe :oD

Yeah, don't worry BibbyBear - these cameras have no light meters, no autofocus, no zoom, no exposure compensation - it's just a box with a plastic bubble for a lens.

Nothing anyone posts here can be of any real technical achievement or prowess. Just seeing what someone come up with given the most unforgiving equipment.

I'm looking forward to seeing more.
BTW - cool pics Short_Ribs!
-Lew ;-)

I understand that Joe, but what I have found in previous forum threads where we can upload our shots for one reason or another, (without any bitterness intended here) photographers at my low level tend to get a quick "oh nice shot" type of comment and everyone ends up talking about all the great ones - yes, I can learn from what all the others have uploaded, but I don't need to feel totally embarrassed at my own attempt in the process as this is and can be, a little disheartening - perhaps why generally, only the same great photographers post to these threads whilst us "learners" sit in the wings and watch.

This seriously isn't a dig, just a personal experience I have felt sometimes and I can make a fool of myself in my own gallery LOL!! At least the good photographers rarely come in there to have a laugh (sorry, I meant look!!) 

Please note - there is a smile on my face through all of this, so no-one misread my words at all.

:biggrin:

Hugs

Chrissy xx

i understand chrissy... but i'm sure that nobody here is sure to create wonderful pictures..
i think this experience can show some big surprises.

So, i promess i will critic from A to Z your pic ;o)

i'm sure other here will do that too :oD

seeya

Totally understand where you're comin' from Chrissy!  Been there... believe me.   It takes alot to put yourself  "out there" at times....even when you REALLY want to.  One thing I've learned, is that you need to leave your personal "comfort zone"  to truly learn and grow.   Again, we'll all be on the same "playing field" so to speak here and  the whole idea behind this "exercise" is to get back to the ROOTs of photography, work within certain limits and see what YOU can come up with. 

I might suggest instead of just one STICKY thread, that we  post a NEW thread for  each member participating.  Tthis way, no one gets lost in a huge thread and eachs persons images remain the FOCUS of THAT discussion. 

Joe

hey joe ;o)

excellent idea, but may be it will be a little big, no ???

what our dear modo say ?

Looking forward to this, splashed out on a Kodak disposable on the way home this evening. 

I completely understand BibbyBear - but don't worry at ALL - not kidding.

As the beginning of this thread almost sounds like a quality quest, I was actually thinking of going in a different route - since the cameras have got crappy everything as far as a tool, USE it!

As corny as it sounds, I was trying to think of a fun way to photograph my feet in front of stuff (window, blocking the TV, blocking my wife ;-), more funny stuff, get it?). I might try some form of texture shot, landscape, etc., but don't expect ANY form of masterpiece from me ;-)

Just have fun and we'll see what we come up with.
-Lew ;-)

Okay folks, made it a sticky thread. Olivier doesn't sound like his goal is to make this an 'official' challenge so why don't we approach it in that light. Can I suggest that digital point and shoot cameras be allowed too, with an honor system that each person take no more than 36 images in AUTO mode, and no other postwork besides B&W conversion and cropping allowed? Just a thought for those with no scanning capability.

Sorry I in no way meant to introduce a competitive element to this - I only suggested it so the thread would stay around for when pics were posted.  I whole heartedley back the spirit in which Olivier started this thread.
I don't have scanning facilities I intended to get the supermarket processors to put it on CD for me, if not that then I would take a macro shot of the print and post that. I think it should stay as disposable film cameras.

Oh don't worry about apologising Richard, I was just running scared in the face of all you great photographers who could probably still come up with better results on a disposable than I could on the new Canon 1Mk III (or whatever that new fancy several thousand pounds worth of camera is called LOL!)

I'll still have a go and give everyone a good laugh, maybe V can help me on Saturday in Bristol to advise on what best to do with my little £4.99 camera!!

And yes, mine will be put onto disk at Asda's then uploaded - mind you, I've had problems with terrible noise from their scanner in the past??!!

I didn't mean to sound negative - just ignore me.... I often find myself in the state of confusion, but it's OK, they know me there!!!

Chrissy xx

thank you very much Kort ! great idea to stick it !
i'm ok with digital, just don't forget to tell it when it's posted ;o) (i understand scanning is not easy for everyone, but when developing, you can ask the shop to scan it for you)

no prob onslow ;o) stay in that spirit, it willl be a great experience.

dear chrissy, yes, there are some great photographers, some beginners, some semi-pros & pros. But we are all passioned people by the picture, the image... we are friend and we are playing together :oD So, trust in you ;o) it will be great i'm sure :oD

So, Kort, how do you think we can post 5 pics by member and talk about it ? Do you have idea my friend ? What is possible to be sure everybody can have a good and constructive approach of a critique ?

thanks thanks thanks everybody for participating :oD

Olivier

I think 5 photos by a member would be fine. My thoughts are that having them all in this thread may be a bit cumbersome. Perhaps we could present them in a collage in our galleries, all 5 at once on a simple white or black background. We could then post a link to the image from here and discuss here or in the comments beneath the images (I think that would work best). Or we could use a service like photobucket.com to host the images for posting and discussion in this thread. What do you think?

yep 5 pics is great, and i agree, everything here will be hard to see and discuss.

good idea ! create a collage of five pics and post it in our respective gallery. So we can put comments directly on it, and have further discussions here !

So, can you create a very first entry in this thread (sticky one) where we can put names & links of members who are posting their collage ? I know it's possible in classic forum. Surely here, no Kort ?? Like this, everybody can follow the challenge without browsing the entire thread.

olivier 

Yes, I can start a new thread with the basic idea and rules and you can elaborate. I will let you know when it is up.

thank you very much !!! :oD

i hope you are particpating too my friend :oD

Thanks Olivier :)

Sounds good this challenge.. I'm go tomorrow make some picture and I will participat after :)

You make me to remember my last time with my old camera, my old canon, buy a film and took some pictures. My weather is good today, I had some clouds, so, no much lighting.  I run after a bus (a little more and I make a kiss at the door :lol:), I gone in the darkroom of a good friend, who leave me too his scaner... And he ask me " why do you don't take your Nikon? It's for Señor Olivier, a other challenge..." So, now, your name is Señor Olivier hahahahaha...
I think on these pictures, I don't give a lot of time like is necesary because I have some trouble with the black...

Now, you have my contribution of your challenge.. Say me what you think

héhé ! I am senor Olivier :oD yeah :o) cool :oD

.. here is your picture darling ! You can post five you know ? ;o)

i really like the second one, really nice approach of bw scenography. The quality of the pictures is impressive for a single-use camera ! lol but now the camera is in the trash ;o)

Your approach of the subect is very different from your RR pictures. I feel more 'Valou's soul' in these pictures (i hope i don't hurt or offend when i'm saying this).

As you can see compo and atmoshpere are here, even if you use cheap camera.

The first one is intersting too because of light contrasts everywhere in he picture, the framing is unusual. The third too, unusual but nice too.

Globally, the pictures are very interesting, i hope you felt something different in his experience. It is very important to know YOUR feeling about this Valou :o)

Thanks very much for your participation :o) other pics ?

See ya :o)
Senor Olivier

hum hum.. other pics ? now? ok..  I just need to return in the house of my good friend and I see you soon with 5 pictures...

Thanks for your comments, it's true, is other mode to take pictures without digital camera and I like too.. So.. you need more for offend me hihihihi...

I come back :)

hello Valou,

i think it's really a nice approach of that kind of photography, don't forget to put this last collage in your gallery as Kort said :

When you post the collage in your gallery, send me a link and I will add it to the list below.
People can discuss your entry in the comments beneath your images (so leave the comments on) and in this thread as well. [Kort]

And we all play the game as discussing your pics ;o)

Olivier

Ok Olivier, I make that after my serie "open your imagination"
I hope to see more work now...

Thanks to all Olivier, you make a really good challenge and you're a very good inspiration...