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Subject: What's wrong with my Bryce???


Riquelme8 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 1:40 PM · edited Fri, 01 November 2024 at 12:07 AM

...or with my computer? Something very mysterious is going on anyways. I started to create this "secret garden" thing and the BR6 file was something like 100MB in some point. Okay then I created some more objects but not so heavy models or so and the file suddenly increased to be 2GB!!! So you can imagine how my laptop was in total freeze. Okay i got back to early different save and then it all happened again in totally random. There's no matter what I'll create more or so.. and the 2GB file wont even open and then some early savings wont open properly at the first time and other weird things? Maybe I really have to reinstall the program:( Just wanted to ask if anyone has experienced same? -Antti- Ps. If I'll ever get my "garden" ready I'll beat you guys in the challenge:D:D:D


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 2:32 PM

I'm afraid the more objects you use the bigger the scene size. It would be worth testing how the file size expands, check the file size after adding things to your scene each time.
I suspect however that you have so many objects that the 2Gb size is correct.
Unfortunatly, Bryce scene do take up a lot of space, especialy if you are using a lot of trees. If you are using a lot of trees and they are placed in the distance in the scene, then you could use 2d trees instead.
Hope that is of some help to you.


Riquelme8 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 2:36 PM

Thanks for reply but I'm afraid that the file size increase is just random... it happens too if i only add some cubes or so. And the files can't be opened later. They are just empty of objects but still taking the space from my hard drive.. have to test more...


dvlenk6 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 3:37 PM · edited Tue, 14 August 2007 at 3:39 PM

There is a file save bug that does that sometimes. Even little scenes (under 50MB) can hit the 2GB bug. The 2GB file is corrupt and cannot be opened or used in any way. Luckily it can be deleted.
I have never seen either the cause or the solution to the problem.

EDIT - I have never had the bug myself; but have seen posts about it.

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Riquelme8 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 3:47 PM

Okay thanks a lot of this information.. that explains a lot! Though i'm not very happy that I encountered it just when creating the best pic of mine. -Okay, reinstalling Bryce didn't help at all. -It doesn't matter to which earlier save point I return.. the bug will still come when creating something new and then save. And thats weird??? Like all the files are affected. I just hope that if I bring the models I've created to a totally new document I could get rid of this bug. If not... what can be done because even the reinstallation didnt help? I'll be back with this after few days when having more time. Thanks for all who have some clues about this bug. -Antti


dvlenk6 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 3:56 PM

It could well be one of the objects that is causing the bug to happen.
Make sure you save (incrementally) after each import. Maybe you can isolate the object (if it is an object) that is causing the bug.

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tom271 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 9:13 PM

This happened to me with a wagon I was working on...  the file was about 80MB and it would save at 2.13GB...  I had my wagon in a few separate files to keep things managable..  when ever I added something new to a file it would save large...   I think it might have to do with display render settings... being different for both objects and then bringing them both together as one.... 



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tom271 ( ) posted Tue, 14 August 2007 at 9:16 PM

@Riquelme8
This happened to me with a wagon I was working on...  the file was about 80MB and it would save at 2.13GB...  I had my wagon in a few separate files to keep things managable..  when ever I added something new to a file it would save large...   I think it might have to do with different display render settings... being different for both objects and then bringing them both together as one.... 



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vncnt9663 ( ) posted Tue, 21 August 2007 at 9:43 PM · edited Tue, 21 August 2007 at 9:44 PM

I thought I was the only one who was having this problem. I’m having the same thing happing to me.

I've been working on a scene for a month now. The first time I saved the scene, closed out and came back to work on it some more, the program crashed. After about the third time this happened, I check the file size and saw it was huge. I just decided not to save what I was working on and render at the same time.
I haven’t quit out of the Bryce in a month. So now I’m rendering and that's taking forever. Pray I don't freeze.

I haven't started my garden because of this.

Me think it’s time to search the web for answers. I’ll let you know what I find.


grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:33 AM · edited Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:36 AM

Just out of curiosity here, but for those of you who have been affected by this, what kind of system are you running on?  And what version of Bryce are you using?  I had quite a few problems when I started using Bryce, but nothing as major as that.  Just some things that require me to restore Bryce to defaults every now and then, such as not being able to alter object textures.  The first time was when I was trying it out, and it confused a lot of people here.  Bryster, and Agent Smith probably remember me for that alone.  And a few others who I can't remember.  I have Bryce on another pc, and on that one it never does this, just on my laptop, which I affectionately call Lappy 356. 

I remember reading something about Bryce not using the Dual Core system too well?  And the newer versions were to address that problem?  I'm not a programmer, but I am a system tech by training and experience.  When a bug does happen more than once, and to more than one person, there is normally a common point. 

The only problem is that with all of the different system specs for computers these days, actually knowing what that common point is, and being able to specify it, well that could take a team of techs with multiple systems a lot of time to run down every possible problem, or a lot of  detailed user feedback.


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 2:06 AM

Mac Mini 2.0GHz Intel Duo Core processor with 2GB of RAM

I’m not sure of the exact version I’m running. I don't seem to find the exact version on it. I bought it about a year ago if that helps.
I know it was upgraded for duo core processors.

I just submitted a query through DAZ report bugs to see if I can get any insight as to what mite be causing this problem.


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 2:22 AM · edited Wed, 22 August 2007 at 2:22 AM

Bryce6.0:

  Version:    1.0
  Last Modified:    3/8/07 7:40 PM
  Kind:    Universal

This is all I come up with when I looked for the version of my software.


dhama ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 4:59 AM

I'm using 6.1 and i've had no problems so far, except on some 3ds Max imports.


Riquelme8 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 5:45 AM

Well I use Bryce 6.0
And my laptop has a single core P M740 1,7Ghz, WinXP,1GB,Geforce Go 6800

I just had to abandon that project and start a new one.. no other choice. I think it was something object related because I added all the objects to the library and then into a totally new scene.. same happened. But i didnt have patience to go that far that I woud have tried to discover which object was the reason.


grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 7:54 AM

I have no idea.  The fact alone that rjay9663 is using a mac and having the same problem makes this a lot harder.  Riquelme8, for your system, I don't know, but my laptop is a Dell Latitude D610 without a video card.  I have only a hair more processor speed than you do, and it's never given me this problem before. 
Oh, since upgrading to 6.1, I haven't had that one problem, either.  You're problem could be anything from video cards, video drivers, something as easy as a bad object download, or possibly a certain object combination.  **
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tom271 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 11:12 AM

pentium 4 cpu 3.46GHz  2GB ram  single core,,   Bryce 6.1  windows xp

This was the first time this particular problem had happen to me...   I was working on a large br6 file and imported an obj file to merge with it...   then I tried to save and got this huge file...  I had been merging all that week two and even three files together with no problems at all..



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dan whiteside ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:14 PM

I can confirm this as well on my Pentium D DP/WinXP as well as my MacPro quad/10.3.9. Both running B6.1.13.1.
What's been working for me is to shut down Bryce and restart the computer every hour or so of Bryce usage.


dan whiteside ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:16 PM

Rjay - to find the version of Bryce you're using on a Mac hold down the Open Apple (command) key and select the Help>About Bryce6 menu item. Current version is 6.1.13.1.


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:22 PM · edited Wed, 22 August 2007 at 12:24 PM

Thanks Dan. I got your message in DAZ Bug Tracker. I'll look for my version. But you may note that I'm having other problems as well. Also I have been adding the .br6 extension manually. I noticed that issue early on. It still dosen't work.


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Wed, 22 August 2007 at 11:19 PM

Thanks Dan again. I found the version of my software.  It's 6.1.12.4  So do I need to download the latest version? I don't seem to se any patch.


dan whiteside ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 8:02 AM · edited Thu, 23 August 2007 at 8:03 AM

rjay - You have to hit the Bryce Reset button, under Download History, on your account page at DAZ.


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 11:42 AM

Thanks


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