Celt

I wasn't covering every aspect of every thing,to lazy for that lol.

war craft was just a example.if ya watch video,game credits ya realize take a lot to make either.

I will be glad when poser gets good enough to make a starwars.

who knows maybe George might even make us some more movies :)

never implied the venders here were slack.

just look at there stuff it's top of the line.

I even argues on the fab 5 forms if some one rags Poser that V3 was modeled in LW and ask them if thay have a mesh to = her ? Maya,Max,C4D,XSI will call LW a toy.

but the V,A,M 3 unimesh is one of the coolest meshes ever made.

Poser venders sell finished stuff un like turbos 1000 unfinished meshes ,that drives me nuts to try to sell some thing unfinished at any price.

there are few meshes at turbo I am impressed buy but I am impressed buy Masha.

Wolf

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm/FuseAction/ProcessSmartSearch/istIncAuthor/Shashi%20Kujur/blAuthorExact/y

has a headless one also

RorrKonn
http://www.Atomic-3D.com

That does kind of make you wonder, yeah.  What would you do with a textured but un-rigged expressionless head?  Or hands?

For that matter, what would just about anybody do with Masha?  Sure, you can customize her by moving geometry - but - for the price?  If you're already able to easily do that, why are you paying $300 for that kind of figure? 

Rorrkon: that headless female mesh is nuts.  It's not even textured or rigged.  Very high poly too.  $1000??

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Quote - That does kind of make you wonder, yeah.  What would you do with a textured but un-rigged expressionless head?  Or hands?

For that matter, what would just about anybody do with Masha?  Sure, you can customize her by moving geometry - but - for the price?  If you're already able to easily do that, why are you paying $300 for that kind of figure? 

Rorrkon: that headless female mesh is nuts.  It's not even textured or rigged.  Very high poly too.  $1000??

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  Shashi Kujur

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/270135

Sold at lest 3 copies.

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/270775

Sold at lest 1 copy.

So that's a total of $4000 ,Hay it's enough to buy C4D :)

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/248996/SID/270135/blFP/1

Sold at least 34 copies. So that's a total of 10,880 enough to buy XSI :)

If you added all of Andrey Kravchenko sells grand total would be up there.enough to buy all the 3D App's.

M. Bortolino

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/174028/SID/270135/blFP/1

$ 15,150

I am a fan of Andrey Kravchenko & M. Bortolino

I can not say why people bought Shashi but I would buy Andrey Kravchenko & M. Bortolino just cause I like them.

Then a gain some people might ask us why would we give so much for C4D when we can get Blender for free.

RorrKonn
http://www.Atomic-3D.com

Quote - Well, there is a reasonable middle ground between profit and value, or there should be.  It could get very difficult for the seller in big-income US to compete against small-income Asia, but - well - that's the way it is.

Even within the US - I can make a dollar stretch much farther in Arkansas than in San Francisco. The $225k (total) that I plonked down for a fairly modest house on 0.25 acre here in the Pacific Northwest would've cost me only $69k in the Ozarks (which in 1996, it did - inflation may have jacked that to maybe $100k, tops). $225k might get me a condemned garden shed on a tiny vacant lot in San Fran, however. /P

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Depends on when it was bought. In 2001 or so, that sh!t was expensive, modeling houses were few, and figures were hard to come by. Nowadays things have changed, but there was a time (recent, too) when 3D mesh was a bit pricey. /P

Quote - > Quote - Well, there is a reasonable middle ground between profit and value, or there should be.  It could get very difficult for the seller in big-income US to compete against small-income Asia, but - well - that's the way it is.

Even within the US - I can make a dollar stretch much farther in Arkansas than in San Francisco. The $225k (total) that I plonked down for a fairly modest house on 0.25 acre here in the Pacific Northwest would've cost me only $69k in the Ozarks (which in 1996, it did - inflation may have jacked that to maybe $100k, tops). $225k might get me a condemned garden shed on a tiny vacant lot in San Fran, however. /P

Christ!! $225k...I'm moving to the US...modest house with 1/4 acre...that would be at least $550k - $600k where I live! Saying that though, being in the UK, it's great to be able to internet shop in dollars! ;0)

Quote - PS I don't know what newspapers you Europeans and Great Britain folk are reading, but the "BIG US" is in a horrible recession. My state - Michigan - has the highest unemployment rate in the US. There are no jobs here. I am seriously thinking about immigrating to Europe. At least you have gorgeous scenary and things to see there!

**You cannot find gorgeous scenery in Michigan?  You must live in one of the big cities in the lower peninsula.  There is lots of gorgeous scenery in the upper peninsula.  But if you are tired of trees and water, you could always join us westerners who enjoy miles upon miles of beautiful baked desert where you will never have to look at trees and water again.

**:ohmy::blink::biggrin:

On the Turbosquid issue I would like to see a report that shows how many times these expensive yet simple models have been sold.   Several times I have browsed the free models over there and found that you have to wade through alot of bad ones to find something good.

Sometimes those high prices are in place for a very different market. A few months ago I contacted a seller from TS who had a very good catalog of human figures. I commisioned one of his figures from him with full distribution rights for $2,500. This was just for a very realistic human female model. I then added clothing and gear and sold the completed model to my customer for a grand total of $4,800. This allowed this customer to complete a very rushed project and meet a contract deadline. IF I had to m odel the figure from scratch that would have added and extra 4 to 5 days and the deadline would have been missed. In a project like this, the non-distribution license for Poser Content eliminates the possibility of using such Poser content like DAZ's Victoria 4 which would have been a perfect model to use.

I also have a customer who purchased a set of sports balls modes, yes the famous expensive baseball and basketball, etc. He needed to create an interactive promotional software to design promotional balls. Like a basketball with Renderosity's logo for example. He was happy to pay the necessary fee for those balls since most of his real worl promotional sales are for thousands or balls. Basicly, he makes 250,000 balls for Dell and his profit is quite substancial. $100 for the baseball and a few thousands for all the custom programming of the software are pocket change in this scenario.

Poser content is sold as user licenses where many users buy the product and enjoy it. I do agree that TS has a lot of garbage that does not belong there or belongs in such a price level but there is a place in the professional market where high quality content is needed with different licenses to allow professionals to include this content in their end product such as a video game or interactive software like second life. I also agree that the creator of the content should be the one to price his work and only given guidance in the matter.

I sell Poser content and I am very happy with the price of my Poser work but that has to do with the fact that volume accounts for the lower price. I also do alot of freelancing work for the jewelry industry where some of my models, which are just high resolution solid meshes with no rigging or mapping, are priced over $500. The jewelers are going to sell the ring with a few diamonds for over $20,000. The price of my model is again insignificat to them and will happily pay for a model delivered in the contracted time.

Just a few examples of where these expensive models come into play. There are many ways 3D models are being used today and sometimes the price might seen high but in the end these are just assets or components of much larger projects with huge budgets and as such are priced very differently.