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Subject: Poser 7 & Vista


PXP ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:09 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 8:55 PM

e-frontier say that Poser 7 is compatible with Vista unfortunately they do not say what 'Vista'. Do they mean Vista 32bit or Vista 64bit or both?
If you are using Vista64 bit with Poser 7 please can you say what problems if any, you are experiencing with it.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to this post.


Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:16 AM

I am so glad you asked this question PXP as I was just about to post the same and I'd like to hear the answers as well to this one.

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Solo761 ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:33 AM · edited Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:37 AM

I have Vista x64 and poser works fine, it also worked fine in Vista x86. Bonus under Vista x64 (or WinXP x64) is that Poser can alocate more memory so It's been a while since I got out of memory error.


Santel ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:39 AM

I have Vista 32 bit Ultimate and Poser 7 and Poser 6 and both work better than ever before.

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 7:58 AM

I was looking into Vista home premium but I read mixed reviews about it. Actually I am favoring XP pro 64 SP 2 as a major option.

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themomster0 ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 8:22 AM

My new PC came with Vista Home Premium and I haven't had any problems.  Runs great and I get very few crashes - mainly my fault  ;).


samhal ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 10:50 AM

I've been running P7 with Vista64 business for about a year now without any problems from either. Same with Vue6 and C4DR10.

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MaskimXul ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 10:57 AM

running Vista 32bit with Poser 7, no problems here


PXP ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 12:52 PM · edited Thu, 15 November 2007 at 12:52 PM

Thank you all so much for answering it seems that there is not too much to worry about regardless of using Vista32 or 64. I suppose the main advantage of Vista64 is the larger memory capacity.

Am i right in saying that Vista32 is still stuck at 2GB max memory?


tastiger ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 2:44 PM

Yep - 32 bit Vista is stuck at 2 Gig.

Think you will also find that even with the 64 bit version of Vista  Poser will still only access 2 gig as it is a 32 bit application - just means you have ram left over for other appliactions.

That being said - no issue here on Vista Ultimate X64 - just waiting for Poser Pro to come out to take full advantage of 64 bit technology..

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barrowlass ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 6:56 PM

So far so good for me (Vista Home Premium 32 bit) P7 .............

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Santel ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 9:32 PM

Hi, not so, according to Microsoft Developers Network, Vista can load 4 gig of ram, but tends to keep half for itself. Again, according to the above, there is a /3gig switch in the boot.ini which can force Windows to only use 1 gig and reserve 3 for programs. Of course, I couldn't find a boot.ini in my Vista, but I know xp had one :) some interesting and informative articles on this topic;

www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/02/21/vista-works-best-with-4gb-ram

here's a microsoft link about xp and ram:

www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

vista again;

www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html

another explaining the inevitable need to go to 64 bit;

blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/

and another;

www.asisupport.com/ts_4GB_memory_info.htm

also look into readyboost using memory sticks, a cheap way to give windows vista more. Here's an article discussing readydrive, an upcoming enchancement to vista;

channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx

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ahudson ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 4:02 AM · edited Sat, 17 November 2007 at 4:05 AM

No point reiterating the above comments that there are no Problems running Poser on 32 or 64 bit Vista of any version.

There is a potential gotcha though. If you leave Vista's User Account Control (UAC) on (WHICH YOU SHOULD!!! **) then various updates that Poser makes to files in the internal Runtime are written to the same named subfolders BURIED DEEP IN YOUR PROFILE. This not normally a problem except for in a couple of situations. If you have multiple people using Poser on the same PC, logged on as different users then the Poser will act differently for each - this is probably what you want but you need to be aware of what is going on. Secondly, if you decide to zap your PC but before you do you copy your e frontier/runtime folder somewhere for safekeeping (DVDs or a second hard disk) then you will not be saving all the files that poser changed. You may want to locate all the files that were written to your profile (they are in C:Users{yourname}AppDataLocalVirtualStoreProgram Filese frontierruntime   or   C:Users{ourname}AppDataLocalVirtualStoreProgram Files (x86)e frontierruntime  on 64bit systems, and drop those files into your real runtime in Program Files before you save the runtime to DVD or other disk. It's quite easy, just locate the runtime folder in the profile and drop it on to the runtime folder in e frontier like you do when installing a zip. UAC will ask for permission and you say yes.

** "Why should I leave UAC on?" I hear you ask. Well, the world and his dog have been beefing on at Micro$oft for YEARS about how insecure Windows is and finally M$ DO something about it. What do loads of people do? They trun the extra security off!!! sigh DON'T DO IT, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!!


Solo761 ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 4:46 AM

I also turned UAC off. UAC wasn't present on previous windows version and I had no problem with security. If you don't go to suspicious pr0n, warez and crack sites you won't have problems with security.
Then again, those who aren't so computer savvy will probably click OK to anything windows ask, that was the source of most computer security problems before UAC, and probably will be with UAC.


ahudson ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 5:51 AM

Quote - I also turned UAC off. UAC wasn't present on previous windows version and I had no problem with security. If you don't go to suspicious pr0n, warez and crack sites you won't have problems with security.

 
Oh well, there is no saving some people from themselves. Porn and warez site are no way the only way nefarious stuff gets on to your PC, I promise you!! The most innocent sites and pieces of software get infected themselves. Still. its your PC. :) (Oh, and in case you are wondering, I am not parenoid about security... juyst if someone gives me a very clever tool to help me, I go with it. Try reading up about the inner workings of UAC...very clever.


themomster0 ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 6:59 AM

I only turn off UAC (after unplugging my internet connection temporarily) in order to install stuff.  I did have some problems installing some programs after I got the new PC and someone advised doing this and it worked fine.  Then I turn it back on and have had no problems.


Solo761 ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 2:05 PM

Quote - Oh well, there is no saving some people from themselves. Porn and warez site are no way the only way nefarious stuff gets on to your PC, I promise you!! The most innocent sites and pieces of software get infected themselves. Still. its your PC. :) (Oh, and in case you are wondering, I am not parenoid about security... juyst if someone gives me a very clever tool to help me, I go with it. Try reading up about the inner workings of UAC...very clever.

Well, you are right. But there are other ways to secure your computer. I had one infestation on my computer 3 years ago, and that was last time I used Internet Explorer. After that fun I switched to Firefox instead IE, Thunderbird insted Outlook Express, Avast instead of AVG antivirus and router with hardware firewall instead of direct connection (talk about paranoid :)).

The thing hate the most about UAC is that it changes location where some files are stored. I like my aplications to save critical files (like those poser files) in their directory or where I tell them to. And then there's that constant nagging each time I (try to) start something. So I decided it's less annoying if I turn it off...

But back on topic, as it's been already said, poser works fine under vista. I've noticed one more thing, it seems it renders faster under vista then under XP. I was rendering an animation at the time I installed vista so half the files were rendered under XP, and half under vista. Under XP each frame took about 3-4 minutes, under vista 1-2 minutes, according to creation times of those files.


toolstech ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 3:20 PM

Quote - Yep - 32 bit Vista is stuck at 2 Gig.

 

Actually, I've got 4GB of memory installed on my machine and can confirm that both 32-bit XP, and 32-bit Vista are able to access up to 3GB, not 2.  If you have more than 3 Gig of RAM installed, the remainder will not be accessible until you move to 64-bit. 


ahudson ( ) posted Sat, 17 November 2007 at 3:27 PM

Quote - > Quote - Yep - 32 bit Vista is stuck at 2 Gig.

 

If you have more than 3 Gig of RAM installed, the remainder will not be accessible until you move to 64-bit. 

 

I am told some motherboards can use the 4th Gb in 32bit...


tastiger ( ) posted Sun, 18 November 2007 at 12:08 AM

Quote - > Quote - Yep - 32 bit Vista is stuck at 2 Gig.

 

Actually, I've got 4GB of memory installed on my machine and can confirm that both 32-bit XP, and 32-bit Vista are able to access up to 3GB, not 2.  If you have more than 3 Gig of RAM installed, the remainder will not be accessible until you move to 64-bit. 

Thanks for correcting my assumptions - I should have researched the matter in a bit more depth - sorry for misleading anyone.

However is that on a 32 bit machine or a 64 bit machine.

ie: if I added more than 2 gig to my son's AMD 3200 would Vista 32 access it?

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