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Subject: Tongue Morphs


flibbits ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 1:43 AM · edited Sun, 24 November 2024 at 10:09 AM

I'm trying to get Hiro's tongue to curve down.  Magnets have had no effect on the tongue, which is the way I thought it would be done.  With the magnet base under or on the tongue, and the zone around the tip, moving the magnet does nothing.

There are tongue morphs for Hiro but I don't want to spend money if not necessary.  If the magnet doesn't work on the tongue, then how is a pose set for the tongue made?



JoePublic ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 3:34 AM

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Start Poser's grouping tool. Make the tounge a new group by creating a new group, then assign the tounge mesh to it by using the tounge material. Then assign a new material to it to make the new group permanent. Close the grouping tool.

Load a magnet and set the magnet zone to ONLY influence that new tounge-group.


JoePublic ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 3:35 AM · edited Fri, 11 January 2008 at 3:35 AM

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You can now morph the tounge or even move it outside of the head just by using a magnet or two.


JoePublic ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 3:50 AM

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It's even easier with the P7 MorphBrush tool. Just tic "Group" and than add your new (tounge) group.


flibbits ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 1:53 PM

I'll try it, thanks!



flibbits ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 7:48 PM

I created the group in the group editor, added the material and assigned the material (tongue.)  But when I open the morphbrush tool and add the tongue group, the only things I can manipulate are to pull the tongue out really long or to make it really fat, I can't figure out how to pull it down.



flibbits ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 8:00 PM

I'm having some luck manipulatng with the morphbrush tool, but it's hard to get exactly the desired parts as the computer slows way down while selecting.

With magnets I selected tongue (the new group) in the group for mag zone properties.  The magnet still doesn't change the tongue.  In magnet properties the new group "tongue" isn't available in the "add elements to deform" sub menu.

It seems like magnet would be easier, but it still won't effect the tongue.



JoePublic ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 4:17 AM

"...and assigned the material (tongue.)"

Hmm, don't assign the tounge material.
Use it only to select the tounge mesh, but then assign a "New Material" to make the new group permanent.
This will give the tounge a garish color, but once you have finished your morph, export it as an object and use it with a copy of your original Hiro.

Also move the magnet zone around and/or rescale it.

There is no need to add the new group to the magnet itself, that's why Poser doesn't give you that option.
As long as it's added to the magnet zone and it is inside the magnet zone, you can deform it with the mag.

Hmm, how many "undo's" have you set in your general preferences ?
These eat up a lot of money.
Set them to 3 to 5, as the morphbrush needs all the RAM it can get to work on hirez figures like Hiro.


flibbits ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 2:12 PM

OK re: the undo's.

I've tried moving the mag zone and base around, with the base under the tongue, on the tongue, and the zone small and around only the tongue.  Still no effect.

I'll try assigning a new material to see how that works with the morphbrush.



lesbentley ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 2:26 PM

I don't have Hiro so I can't check, but a common cause of a magnet not working on some body part (or prop) is if the body part has "Bend" disabled in its Properties tab.


flibbits ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 2:31 PM

Redo was set to 100.  Turning it down made a huge difference.

With the new material assigned to the tongue it turns blue, but it does work better (maybe it's just redo set lower) for the morphbrush tool.  Is there a way to select certain parts of the tongue, because when I pull or push with the morphbrush it selects other parts of the face during the process.

The mag still has no effect.  As soon as the zone is expanded to touch any part of the face, it warps, but while only the tongue is in the zone nothing happens.



flibbits ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 3:26 PM

BTW folks thanks for the help, I'm able to make a pretty decent tongue morph now, but would like to try to get those magnets working.



JoePublic ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 6:02 PM · edited Sat, 12 January 2008 at 6:09 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2726915

If your magnet deforms both the head and the tounge,  something must have gone wrong while making the new tounge group or selecting the new group for the magnet zone,


flibbits ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2008 at 6:10 PM

Hey that did it!

The missing step was setting the new group as the group in the mag zone properties.

The magnet is a lot easier than the morphbrush tool.

Thanks for the help!



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