My first try at a peice of clothing and i am running into probs with the rendering in poser,
in D/S & Bryce this comes out white, in poser i get what you see below. Can anyone tell me why please?

Many thanks.

Jen

Reversed normals on some polygons?

And why do you have Diffuse plugged into Gradient_Bump? That's going to produce nonsense. You're setting up that the surface normals should be distorted by the amount of light reflected by the surface.

Also you have a Diffuse plugged into Refraction_Value. This is doing nothing at all - just increasing the compute time.

See this is what I get for looking in the other thread.

that is only the material set up for the buttons, that is displayed. U need to change the material option to labcoat or what ever the main material group is to see how it is set up.

bad normals, yep.  and it sez "curious labs", meaning poser 5.  I dunno where "normals forward"
checkbox was located in that.

Poser 5? Doesn't have "normals forward", it requires that the model is done right.

Ahhh thanks guys, cant half tell i havnt done this before.

*Baggins, I was just pushing buttons trying to see if anything worked,,,,,

*thanks Pjz99, pc glitch posted this twice.....or brain fade i suppose:blink:

*Miss Nancy and svdl, ahhh to show my complete lack of knowlege here, apart from 'not being insane' what does normals and forward normals refer to.

*svdl (or anyone). How do I see that the 'model is done right'? Can anyone tell me what I should have done....apart from slowly go insane that is?

Thanks for your help here friends, I really do appreciate it.

Jen 

3D polygonal objects are made up of polygons (flat, bounded planar surfaces).  The bounds of each polygon are defined by points.  If you go to Document Display Style and set the display to Hidden Line you see that the object is made up of a patchwork of squares and triangles.  These are polygons.  The corners of each are defined by points in space.

Now, you should think of a polygonal object as a paper-thin surface which is covered by or defined by these polygons.

Normals are direction vectors that determine which side of a polygon is 'visible' when rendered.  Think of a piece of paper where one side has writing and the other doesn't.  You want to see the side with the writing, right?  Well, in 3D, the side with writing is determined by the order of the points that make up the polygon.  If they go one way, the writing is on one side.  If they go the other, the writing is on the other side.  Some 3D applications consider both sides of the paper as having writing while others, like Poser, need to know which side.

In order to verify that all of the polygons are showing the writing on the same side that would properly be rendered, you need to have some way to show and edit the polygon's normals.  UV Mapper can do this as well as other 3D applications.  In whatever application you modeled the clothing, you'll need to learn how to show the normals and fix them to be pointing 'outward' so that the surface all has writing on the outside instead of having some on the inside.

Thank you soooo much kuroyume0161, I dont know what prog the upper part was made in but my lower half was in wings3d, i will see what i can find out from there.

Thanks all. I will delve into this stuff and let you know the outcome, wish me luck.
Jen