This new thread has evolved out of the 'Critical comments and bad ratings' thread I posted a while back which seems to be gathering momentum. In one of my reponses I'd asked this:

*I'd be interested to find out what other peoples reasons are for uploading their images on here. Is it to get feedback, converse with other artists, check out what other people are producing or just a way of getting satisfaction from looking at peoples work ... or whatever else.

This idea was suggested by AnnieD so thanks to Annie for that.

Over to you lot, let's go for it people !!!!!!

Tony :-)

they'll take it...;)

I was looking for wallpaper back in '01, and 'rosity's name kept popping up. There was a fella named Slawico who had 'the ultimate sci-fi and fantasy linklist', and many of the artists were here.

Stopped by, liked it, and found out there was free software (Terragen) to do 3d stuff. Since my previous experience was trying to do Corel 3Dream, I was hooked. Then I found out about Bryce, and a short while later, my descent into madness began...;)

Most of the other sites back then had real artists, and I didn't think I was good enough to post there. There's a mix of good and inexperienced here, so I fit...as well as I ever do...;)

Pride and ego !

Hmmm - a little background first.  In 1997 I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis and about a year later was deemed unable to work and went on Social Security disability.  I'm not saying that to get any pity because I do NOT feel sorry for myself and certainly do not want others to feel any differently, but in part this explains why I post artwork on Renderosity.

As a human being and creative person, as are we all, I crave and need someone other than family to notice me and my work.  During the warmer parts of the year, the few venues where I sell my jewelry are enough to satisfy that need, but during the colder months of the year when I'm pretty much stuck at home, Bryce and Renderosity are my only creative outlet.

long pause  I guess what I am trying to say it IS an ego thing with me but I don't see that as a bad reason.  I'm only a hobbyist and don't consider myself as a great artist, but it is a 'feel good' moment when I know that others besides my 'that looks nice' hubby have at least looked at what I've created.  The few comments and compliments I've received are enough for me to know that I am NOT invisible.

sigh  Okay, I guess I do sometimes feel sorry for myself and need a bit of a morale boost!  Now that I've psychoanalized myself into a corner, I'll shut up!

Dee/cherokeeheart

I have always considered myself a frustrated writer/artist/creative person.

I am trying to improve my artwork as well as channeling those creative energy into something more productive than websites, html and Flash, design and programming, setup and development.
Where can one see improvement and get tips and tricks on improvement than being surrounded by those who are better and more creative than you?
Just seeing the rendering here is a challenge in itself. You see it and you want to be do better.

Here are Renderosity, there is an amazing mixture of talent and challenges. Who better to challenge yourself than you?  That's why I post here. I can see myself improving and slipping backward... but at least there's outside feedback to let me know which way I am going...

I'm a show off?

However I'm just really here to learn and hopefully I can  learn if I get the occasional critique.

*I'd be interested to find out what other peoples reasons are for uploading their images on here

*Quite simply, it's because this is the best Bryce site in the entire universe....:thumbupboth:

yup! with bryster on that one - i enjoy the feedback i get from my peers - because they have a similar passion for this software - i have never found that elsewhere.

Bryster , well, I can't argue with that one can I.
Tony :-)

Originally we in the Imagine Gallery/Forum, were struggling along on the old style IML, ImagineMailingList, which had no pic posting available and one of our members suggested Renderosity as a place where we could post WIPs and finished work for discussion. This led to a greater interest in other software[Terragen, Bryce, Photoshop etc.]that I had on my machine and I became addicted to the community of interests here and the potential for improving all my skills. Sadly as a Coord and now a Mod I have less time for rendering etc. than I'd like and old Imagine is slowwww to get new Gallery entries so I took on helping out at Bryce which is a lot busier than Imagine ever was, woo hoo more work, and the app seems not to want to render anything without crashing or shutting down my machine so I've done damn few Bryce renders as well. Basically I post for the comments of a critique nature in an effort to improve my work. I do like Kudos when they come but it's not the main reason I post here.. ...

Renderosity provides a laid back, comfortable and relaxed atmosphere that I haven't found at any other site. I don't feel intimidated when I post here and show the world my lack of artistic ability like I would anywhere else like cgtalk for instance. I can hide behind my screen name of vangogh and nobody has to know who I really am.

I have a gallery here because this site has it all.. all the help  that I need to evolve.
When I started I didn't  know anyone or anything.  I had a free 3D program (DS) and a desire to learn 3D.  I had worked in 2D for years using PSP.   I started seeing 3D art and felt I just had to learn it.
I live alone so the only feedback I really get is from online. 
I've been "doing" art for as long as I can remember...but am a newbie when it comes to 3D on the computer.
I have learned a lot from watching all of you here and reading what you say and the tips you give to me and to each other.  I don't really care if someone comments or not but the comments do give you an idea of whether or not you are doing ok.  The ones that are overly critical don't bother me.  I leave them there as a tribute to stupidity if they are stupid...lol   If I agree, then I try to redo or do better next time.  I'm probably more critical of my own art than anyone else would be.
I love Bryce and am learning as much as I can..I also love DS and am still learning that too.  I get the help here that keeps me learning and hopefully improving.

I belong to a couple of other sites but this one is still the best for a good sense of "community".

And that's why I upload here and stay here.     :m_bouncy:

I got into this whole computer art scene as an extra tool to use in my other art work. Once I started creating images I found this site and discovered that everyone here had there own gallery so I started mine, and yes, it is a good way to showcase your images.  A lot of people don't really know what you are talking about when you try to explain that one of your hobbies is Computer generated Art so I find having my own gallery and access to everyone elses means I can show them anywhere, anytime as long as there is a computer and internet available.

Cheers
GG

As for being one of the early members it was to learn and grow with Bryce. That said I never really actually enjoyed the canned "great work" or "Good job" comments as they never really pointed out my flaws or what I was missing. Learning from my mistakes and from others is a great way to change and grow as an artist.

Well, as I started this thread I'd best say why I joined Renderosity. Strange as it may seem it wasn't by choice and partly by luck.

I work as a programmer for a UK bank who are making me redundant in 2009 after 25 years service. I decided to make something good happen out of the situation by retraining but I didn't really know what in. As I'd already wirtten a few web sites I began with this but soon realised that grapic art was also a bonus.

I looked at a site by Peter Sharpe after searching for digital art examples and found out that he used Bryce to produce his images. I bought a copy of Bryce 6.1 and have been hooked ever since. I hadn't realised at the time that Bryce 5.5 was a free download.

Finding Renderosity was purely by chance when it came up as the first item in a Google search and I posted my first image and forgot about it for a while. I was then amazed when I checked my emails a few hours later to find out that people had been leaving comments ... I hadn't even realised that this was a feature of the site. The rest as they say is history.

I continue to post images as I love hearing what people thing about my work and as a result hope to improve. I also find the sense of community very heart-warming and have made many friends since I joined. Long may it continue.

My favourite artists include e-brink, photostar, grafikeer, buzz-69, nazul and of course debz, who is my wife and who has impressed me so much with her work since I began training her.

Tony :-)

This is an interesting thread, because I can't think of a reason to post images anymore. My stuff isn't very good, and it seems like my poor friends feel they have to comment, which isn't fair to them. Keep the reasons coming, please?

***This is an interesting thread, because I can't think of a reason to post images anymore. My stuff isn't very good, and it seems like my poor friends feel they have to comment, which isn't fair to them

***I've seen several comments similar to this in the past couple of days.  I'd like to know...how anyone knows..what a person is thinking when they post a comment?  Are you a mind reader?  Or maybe you think the comment should be something really fantastic? 

I guess I'm a little ticked because I hate the idea that when I post a comment someone may think I'm doing it just to be nice and that I don't really mean what I said.
I can't answer for everyone..but if I leave a comment in your gallery its because I wanted to..not because I think I have to just to be nice.  I only wish I had enough time to leave all the comments and visit all the galleries that I've seen but I just don't have the time to do it.
Sometimes my comment may not be what you wanted..but if I left it...it was with good intentions....       

Edit:  Scanmead this was not aimed directly at you  :)   It was meant to anyone in general who has made the remark lately about people who comment and don't really mean it.

I joined Rendo, to learn more about Bryce and at the same time enjoy all the submitted artwork.

Its been quite sometime since I've actually rendered anything in Bryce, last thing I was working on was an Underwater Dolphin scene and than things became very hectic in real life and I haven't done anything since.. were talking 4-5 years now.

Slowly things are are becoming none hectic...sort of... I'd like to start again.

What I like about Rendo and the People in the Bryce forum is, that no matter how mediocre my artwork might be, I wont be ridiculed and get un-necessary criticism.

Renderosity is another stepping stone in the path of where my creative side takes me.

I've been creative since I can remember, and when I first discovered computers in 85 I was hooked. Dos coded imagery, then Aldus Photostyler which led to Photoshop. My first 3D program was Ulead's Cool 3D. Then a friend showed me DigitalBlasphemy site by Ryan Bliss.
Needles to say I was hooked, and it didn't take long to find Renderosity. Yeah I started with Poser and upgraded to Photoshop 5. Then I found Bryce.....and a forum full of crazy and real people. That was back around 2000.

Bryce has been a great tool and has taken me further than I ever anticipated, though it always seems the addiction is this strange group of emotional expressionists that makes it worthwile.
"Familee Sjhon, Familee" (from Tarzan-Legend of Greystoke). Yes, I'm weird too.

So when I saw this forum beginning to quite down in an almost dormant state, it was a bit disheartening. Then I saw some spark when Bobby stepped in for AS and figured I would like to try and help. Hopefully bring back some of the really great experiences I've had here, to share with those of you that remember and for those of you that were not.

All of this combined with my state of mind since my last medical issue.
Enjoy every day and don't sweat the little stuff.

Life is Great and Art is the icing on the cake.
That's why I post here at Renderosity.

Rod

Scanmead sez: This is an interesting thread, because I can't think of a reason to post images anymore. My stuff isn't very good, and it seems like my poor friends feel they have to comment, which isn't fair to them.

Erosiaart (Rosie) posted her roses in the toilet thing and asked me to crit the hell out of it. I did and she tells me she learned quite a bit from the experience. If you post your stuff I will do the same. Why? Because I'll give you an honest opinion and you might see where you are going wrong - if indeed you are - and hopefully improve enough to feel confident about posting stuff in the galleries.

Quote - I'd be interested to find out what other peoples reasons are for uploading their images on here. Is it to get feedback, converse with other artists, check out what other people are producing or just a way of getting satisfaction from looking at peoples work ... or whatever else. Tony :-)

I'd be interested to find out what other peoples reasons are for uploading their images on here. Is it to get feedback, converse with other artists, check out what other people are producing or just a way of getting satisfaction from looking at peoples work ... or whatever else.

 
I have a few reasons for uploading images here on Renderosity.

1. to get feedback from people whose opinions I value.

2. I also secretly hope for "Wow, that's just so great", even though when I see that I don't really value it.  I like it, but don't set much store by it.  Lol.

3. to learn from my own mistakes.

4. to have a record of my progress over the years.

I get that from the gallery, but I get even more from the forum, there I can get detailed feedback on what's not working as well as what is working, plus suggestions on how to fix problems and improve things.

But I also get ideas from other artists, and from the brainstorming  atmosphere coalescing the maelstrom of sparking thoughts creating new ones and thus jump-starting my own neurons to join in. 

It is very hard to create in a vacuum, and that's one thing that Renderosity's Bryce forum is not – thank goodness.

People's opinions, ideas and their own art work is often inspiring.

I would also say that it's so nice to see so many new names joining in as well as a few older ones returning.

I wasn't quite in on the ground floor, but I started with Bryce3D, can't remember when, (and Poser3D – but that stayed clunky for so long that I soon got frustrated with it).  But as Bryce got better, I did too.

I joined R'osity in 2002, and didn't dare post an image to the galleries but did eventually post to the forum, where with the help and encouragement of more experienced artists I began to improve – and I'm glad that I did in the end begin posting to the galleries, because I now have a record of my progress from the "Oh dear" through the "well..." and the "Hmmm..." right up to the present day when I actually begin to quite like some of my recent stuff.

It's a journey that I made in the company of friends.

ICM: I Used to love making indoor scenes with different light effects and stuff using Cool 3D, which I think I got a copy when I purchased a 3D Video Card.

TheBryster: Thats what I like about the Crits. here.. .they actually mean something... I've seen on other sites where the crits are "this scene sucks" and thats it and no explanation of what can be done to improve a scene.

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Erosiaart (Rosie) posted her roses in the toilet thing and asked me to crit the hell out of it. I did and she tells me she learned quite a bit from the experience. If you post your stuff I will do the same. Why? Because I'll give you an honest opinion and you might see where you are going wrong - if indeed you are - and hopefully improve enough to feel confident about posting stuff in the galleries.

Since I respect you Bryce abilities, maybe you could do that for me also...... I will continue posting artwork here till one day I get the feeling i'm doing it right.....hasn't happened yet.............

Check this out, if you want to see a good reason to post here at Renderosity  (not sure if you need to be a member of CGSociety to view it, though):

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=5018844#post5018844

I really don't mind criticism, or the guy having an opinion, but to be so dictatorial (you WILL do as I say!).......sheesh!

I post here for the pleasure of sharing my images with others and in appreciation of their sharing with me. I also appreciate the comments and crits that I get as well (yes, good for the ego, I'll admit to that - grin). I also get quite a bit of inspiration from the galleries and forums (here and C4D). Started out with bryce and photopaint many years ago on the compuserve graphics forums and found a home here along the way.

Bryster, I'd take you up on the offer, but you'd have to get in line. ;) To tell the truth, I'm my worst critic. I do have to thank Incarnadine: he's been so much help, pointing out things to improve (ADD LIGHT!!) in a way that doesn't sound critical.

I started teaching myself Photoshop back in 1995 when I was given an old copy of the program to play with from a friend.  5 years later I got a disk of free software, and bryce was among them, played with it for a while, and got hooked.  Found Renderosity by accident and said, hey!  I can do that!.  So I started posting and improving my skills.

But why do I do it?  Not quite so easy an answer.  Many reasons I guess.  It's a satisfaction of a creative urge that I have.  Like a geyser it boils for a while, and then finally a bunch of pictures pop out.  There's an emotional kick of being recognized by my artistic peers as well as an artist.  There's the social networking aspect as well.  And there's the dream that someday I'll actually get paid for doing this for a hobby or maybe even a living and here's where I get my practice in.

So, there's that.

holy crap... had a realization today.  I've been around here longer (just not as active) than some of the people I consider my senior on this board, unless the join dates are wrong for some people.  LOL

Quote - Check this out, if you want to see a good reason to post here at Renderosity  (not sure if you need to be a member of CGSociety to view it, though):

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=5018844#post5018844

I really don't mind criticism, or the guy having an opinion, but to be so dictatorial (you WILL do as I say!).......sheesh!

Wel i'm totally up in arms about this comment......

*If we made it cozy for anyone to just pop in with an image composed of objects made by someone else, this forum would end up being another renderosity.
As I see it, this forum is for work that goes beyond that, and for artists who want to move beyond that.
*--------------------------
My arms have never before been totally up so much I tells yer!

I s'pose the bottom line is, give someone an opportunity and someone will take it.

Megalomania, plus the wife wont let me put any more up on the walls and youve got to do something with `em.

I've had computers since the late seventies. Funny little boxes you put together yourself. I would make chunky images at the awesome resolution of 80x40. A Commodor PET lead to a C64 and the first real art program I ever owned. It was part of a larger program called SIMON. 320x256 Talk about living.

A Amiga 500 in 1990 and Delux Paint were the weapons of choice. They kept me going until I laid my hands on a program called IMAGINE. It had taken more than a decade, but I finally had a powerful 3d program.

Since then I have tried almost anything you can name, and everything that has ever featured in the general press. Of the big names I use Max. Hate the rest.

In 1997 I bought a P200 and found a program called PAINT SHOP PRO. I stared creating composite images and modifying photos. In 2000 I was playing around with a program that looked like it may be okay for doing some realistic backgrounds. I rendered one out and placed myself holding my son into it. I showed it to some people along with holiday snaps and they asked where had it been taken. The program of course was BRYCE. I became an instant fan, and to this day enjoy it more than all those big name big bucks programs.

Renderosity came to my attention in 2005 when it was featured in 3D WORLD magazine. I came, I saw, I liked. The huge amount of crap Poser content annoyed me, and still does, but the peple in the Bryce and Wings3d forums give me so much enjoyment talking to and stirring up that I rarely venture out into the galleries.  I post images so rarely now, that people comment on my actually posting as much as the image. 

"...from the brainstorming atmosphere coalescing the maelstrom of sparking thoughts..." Seriously impressive sentence.

well i post my stuff for a few reasons.
#1 i really want to get feedback from other artists
#2 i wanted all of my art in one place as a kind of portfolio to show to a potential client
#3 i love seeing other artwork and getting new ideas from them
#4 i enjoy the friends that i have met here 

After reading Mark Bremmer's post today, I don't think any of us will even want to post our work anywhere.

Orphaned Artwork

They've been threatening for years to do stuff like this.  Never makes it through that I recall.

Seems that the more powerful Capitalism grows, the more the little man is subjugated.

  I post here for several reasons, mostly personal, but I do enjoy the feedback. Even the generic "awesome" or "copy and paste" comments let me know that people have at least been taking the time to view my works. Of course there are the more constructive comments that help me along in my progression. 
 If I post an image and no-one comments, it doesn't discourage me. As other posts have stated, family members and friends usually don't give the best critiques, however, those that come from fellow artists, be they hobbyist or professional, help me see what may not be obvious to me.
 I am a hobbyist but I do take my works seriously, and Renderosity has helped me to get a certain degree of satisfaction by displaying my images. I can stare at my own images and not see what an
objective viewer that has no ties to me may pick up immediately.
 I may not be the best at what I do but the personal satisfaction of my art being seen by those that share my interests is quite gratifying.