Attached Link: http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=6596&cat=5&_m=d

There's a thread over at Daz about 5 pages long with people talking about it... it's in the commons on page 1.

Thanks!

3/29/08

Thanks for asking the question, I had ment to ask myself, but had not gotten around to it.

From reading over at the DAZ forums, it sounds like the Pegasus software needs to mature some before I buy it. A lot of people are reporting the kind of bugs I would have thought thorough β-testing would uncover. I don't have the experience to make buggie software work.

LMK

I'm wondering if you can make skirts and such or if you are just stuck with clothing that is form fitting. Asked in the forum so we will see. I'm also nervous about it. At least Daz has a 30 return so if he doesn't deal with the bugs back it goes.

Two words...
Hexagon!

okay, so maybe it's only one word... Get hexagon! 
well, tat was two words now...
Well, my word, just get hexagon!

I agree with Connie.. Hexagon is a great value modeler application. Silo2 is also an excellent value.

Over the past few years I've been here, I bought Shade, Silo, Modo, and Hexagon. All have unique features and abilities. I also bought Pegasus to try it out, after reading about the neat features it does offer. I do most of my work in Hexagon, but I like the way you can create low-poly UV maps, and when you subdivide the mesh, the UVs adjust accordingly. I also like the way I can set materials, UV groups, and mesh groups, without disrupting the mesh. I'm sure that this can be done in Hexagon and other apps too, but isn't as intuitive. I'm a tinkerer by nature and enjoy neat little things, hence my Poser addiction. As for Pegasus, I think that it is a great simple yet powerful modeler for those who cannot afford Hexagon, C4D, Modo, etc. I also recommend it as stepping stone approach to larger and more powerful programs. I hope this helps, -Starkdog

I also bought Pegasus although I have Hexagon, for the price it's a bargain. It's a good small sub-division modeller and alllows you to make anything you want and what's else:It  is made for poser / Daz|studio. and that's more than you can say from any other program. I think there are still some bugs, but if I know Mark there will be updates soon enough. With the combination of quickconform it's an ideal program to made clothing for poser/ D|S.

Bopper.

isn't Hexagon one word?...;)

I'm surprised for low budget modelers, that silo2 doesn't get more "buzz" it seems pretty amazing for it's pricepoint.

Still I always find myself going back to lightwave's modeler or Modo, because tools I NEED are there and work properly.

If I can save a few hours work, then the investment in more feature rich modeler is worth the cash.

I'm interested in this little app as well. I've always used 3ds max for my clothes modeling and even though max has a lot more modeling tools than Pegasus, I wonder if the built in grouping and uv mapping functions make it worth the asking price?

• Rick

There certainly is a niche for a Poser-specific modeller: one that works in the native scale; handles groups and materials "correctly" (or as Poser expects them, anyway); doesn't mess up vertex order, and so on. Nothing else on the market does all of that as far as I know. However, in my humble opinion, markdc's after-sales support is glacial, and his apps tend to have clunky interfaces which is just about acceptable in Auto Group Editor, but the last thing I need in a modeller (and this from an Anim8or user, so there's a pinch of hypocrisy in that statement!) It's telling that there's no demo version, nowhere to get a peek at the manual or the tutorials, and very little information about the fine detail of its capabilities. On the other hand, it's affordable. :) So for me, this may not be the best thing since sliced bread; but I intend to keep an open mind and will be interested to hear of others' experiences.

"There certainly is a niche for a Poser-specific modeller: one that works in the native scale; handles groups and materials "correctly" (or as Poser expects them, anyway); doesn't mess up vertex order, and so on. "

Any of the good commercial modelers do all these quite well.. Lightwave's, Max's, Modo, ect.

The problems arise when you start looking at the lower cost modelers out there.

When it comes to this type of application, in many cases you get exactly what you pay for.

That's why Lightwave's modeler has been worth it's weight in gold to me many times over.

Thing is, it takes developement dollars to fix features and add new features really needed for quality developement, and because of the low cost, all the low end (or free) modeling solutions out there have one issue or another.

Either you have a clunky impossible to figure out interface, or you have point order, uv mapping or other issues.

I haven't heard anything really bad about silo2 however, and it seems pretty capable for a fairly lost cost.

A lot depends on what you are used to. I have Hexagon, but I never managed to get into it. I find Wings 3D works pretty well, and it's free. There's some types of model it looks to be able to make without very much difficulty, others where you have to get used to how the program can best handle the work. It's not always obvious when is the best time to do a particular part of the job. But I'll be keeping an eye on this product.

Quote - I intend to keep an open mind and will be interested to hear of others' experiences.

I put my money where my mouth is (it isn't very much money, after all, and it IS a very big mouth) and bought it. I've just spent half an hour making a couple of useful morphs, without reading the manual or looking at the tutorials, which is a good sign. It isn't perfect - it crashed once, and the scaling seemed a bit on the coarse side - but I think I may have another weapon in my 3D arsenal. I hope it will continue to be developed. > Quote - Any of the good commercial modelers do all these quite well.. Lightwave's, Max's, Modo, ect.

I haven't used any of these, but I do know that Max users routinely scale up Poser meshes before importing; that grouping in Max splits the boundary vertices; and that at least some users regularly UV map in other applications. Not trying to start an app war, and I'm certainly not saying that Pegasus is "better" than 3DS Max. Your point about development dollars is well made. However if those dollars aren't spent on the features you need, then from your point of view they're wasted.

Mine updated itself to 1.01 as soon as I ran it (I enabled auto-update). What's your version, nyguy?

1.01 same as yours.

Pegasus also has the ability to morph across groups. Clothes Converter has always been able to do this also.
Now for the "You know what would be neat?" part.   It would be nice if Pegasus also had CC's "smooth" feature, and CC's forgiving ability to maintain symmetry.

Quote - Pegasus also has the ability to morph across groups. Clothes Converter has always been able to do this also.
Now for the "You know what would be neat?" part.   It would be nice if Pegasus also had CC's "smooth" feature, and CC's forgiving ability to maintain symmetry.

Never like CC even though own it. I would have like to have a CR2 Builder where it takes groups and creates a poser mesh with bones.

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Never like CC even though own it. I would have like to have a CR2 Builder where it takes groups and creates a poser mesh with bones.

I think CC is fine, and own nearly all of markdc's stuff, along with most of philc's.
They all seem to have their purpose.

 Something strange happened tonight (at least to me) : Yesterday I received the upgrade for Autocad 2009, I installed it tonight and the first impression I had was: Huh, this looks like Pegasus, with the same kind of toolbar and big menubutton in the upperleft corner.
I still have windows XP, but can someone tell me if this is the new Vista look, because I haven't seen anything of WIndows Vista yet.

best regards,

Bopperthijs.