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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:11 PM · edited Tue, 24 December 2024 at 7:55 PM

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This one turned out to be a lot of fun, not only did the model turn out to be really light by Poser standards (under 7k polygons) the skirt rig came out pretty nicely.  I'm doing some morphs for this (had that in mind when I started the model actually).  I expect to be done with this in about two days.

the nudity is pretty light weight but checking it just to be safe.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:11 PM

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:12 PM · edited Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:13 PM

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enjoy :) morph time

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FrankT ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:14 PM

You don't hang around do you !!! :biggrin: looks lovely

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:16 PM

Can some kind Englishman tell me what "fanny" means in King's English?  Somebody told me something about that and I meant to ask but I forgot about it.

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:20 PM

Fanny == pussy == vagina.

Need to be a bit careful with that sometimes... one way or the other.

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FrankT ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:21 PM

Err in the uk it refers to the female genitals.  In the US it's the butt (can cause some interesting moments)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:24 PM

Well ... that explains a lot.  😊

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FrankT ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:25 PM

Caused no end of Coke | Nose > Keyboard incidents when talking to some US friends online heh

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:28 PM

Keep in mind, I do not buy Poser content any more, so anything released since maybe 18 months ago for V4 I won't have - no fit for GND4 or NGM or the like, although it's a loose enough item it wouldn't be hard for a user to fit it.

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:28 PM · edited Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:29 PM

Well yes, although it's a vulgar term (in the etymological sense) it really means the external genitals rather than the internals.

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FrankT ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:37 PM

Quote - Keep in mind, I do not buy Poser content any more, so anything released since maybe 18 months ago for V4 I won't have - no fit for GND4 or NGM or the like, although it's a loose enough item it wouldn't be hard for a user to fit it.

Considering it's free, that's a small price to pay.  If I want to, I can always tweak the fit in ZBrush or something

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bopperthijs ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:47 PM

Nice Job, PJZ. Can it also be dynamic?

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Latexluv ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 3:49 PM

It looks fantastic!!!!!

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 4:28 PM

Quote - Nice Job, PJZ. Can it also be dynamic?

Not the top, I gave it a good try but there is too much detail modeled into the top.  It seems you can get decent results running just the hip (the whole skirts is grouped as the hip) as a dynamic simulation, I have a render coming up of that.  The mesh gets wierd around the border of the hip and abdomen but it works.

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GKDantas ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 4:36 PM

Very good work! Again...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 4:57 PM

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Skirts (hip group only) simulated as dynamic ... That looks fairly awesome actually.  The fun part is finding the appropriate camera angle after the sim is finished, you can't be too sure of what it's going to do ;)

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Marque ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 5:15 PM

Nice work!


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 6:18 PM

Simple beautiful.  Thanks.


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:21 PM

I finally broke down and paid the $20 for Dimension3D's Morphing Clothes - it did a really excellent job with this particular model, I'm highly impressed.  It did not break my rig - it did not mangle the delicate little string and button details ("Solid" option) - and the morphs look extremely accurate, except it was a little too conservative where the hip becomes the skirt, but that's all right, that's a very easy morph to make.  I'm sure I'll be done with this sometime tomorrow, and MANY morphs will be included (all the practical DAZ ones).  Since the scut work of doing the fitting morphs is basically complete, I can take some time to do some "fun" morphs that I hadn't really planned to do. 

But EVEN I need sleep!  Good night, and dream of completely impractical skirts being blown awry by unexpected breezes!

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 9:54 AM · edited Fri, 17 October 2008 at 9:57 AM

I think I have some buggy morph data in the DAZ Muscle morphs set.  Wouldn't be the first time.  Or the second or third really.  SOME of the Muscle morphs (oddly, not all!) came out incorrect, but otherwise the morphs came out extremely well, Ralf's utility is pretty unbeatable for this task.  I'm gonna see if DAZ has updated the Muscle morph set and re-download it, and I also PM'd Dimension3D.  At worst I will just release it without any morphs that don't work out.

edit: yeah, I don't think I updated the muscle morphs when DAZ updated to V4.2

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 10:11 AM · edited Fri, 17 October 2008 at 10:20 AM

It turns out that many of the DAZ muscle set "FBMs" are actually dials that control other dials, so while those morphs don't appear to convert, they are not morphs in the first place!  What I'm going to do is spawn a single set of morphs that will go into the clothing on the same dial name as the DAZ dial, rather than try to reverse engineer it and make my figure work the same.

edit: Correction, ALL of the DAZ Muscle FBMs work this way.  FYI!

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 2:02 PM

Yeah, I stumbled on to that by accident last month, working on a frankenstiened figure when I couldn't get some morphs to work after I transferred them with Morph Master. It was a real PITA to figure out.

BTW: Absolutely fantastic work.!  I've been playing with the Succubus Suit and now, this!  Wow.

As some would say: You have 1337 modding skillz!  I know, I am thoroughly impressed.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 3:34 PM

I put up a gallery pic of how the DAZ morphs came out, for any who are curious:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1765077

ALL the DAZ morphs are in and look pretty good at full values, and I'm still going to add some other "fun" morphs.

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FrankT ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 4:17 PM

Yum !! It's looking really good

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 6:44 PM · edited Fri, 17 October 2008 at 6:45 PM

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A couple of morphs to expand the versatility a bit.... Naughty vs Nice top morph ^

Point of note about this particular morph is that it is so drastic, it is not too likely to work well with some of the other drastic morphs.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 6:44 PM

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and naughty vs. nice skirt front ^

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 7:43 PM

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Well, that actually works better than I expected...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2008 at 8:07 PM

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... and it works in reverse too, same morphs dialed negative 🤤

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 7:03 AM

I worked with Dimension3D on a couple of tricky bits with the Muscle morph set and he tells me that the next update to Morphing Clothes will accommodate the DAZ muscle morphs (and any other morphs that work that way) automatically, he expects it to be ready in a week or so.  FYI!

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cedarwolf ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:50 PM

Fantastic outfit.  I'm very, very impressed.  Waiting to see how it all turns out.


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:51 PM · edited Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:52 PM

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I did something kind of novel with the rig for the top of the dress, it needs a little polish but the idea seems to have a lot of promise.  I kind of wish I'd done the dress with a heavier polygon count for this purpose, but oh well :)  Bones for the collar and bodice:

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:52 PM · edited Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:52 PM

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and a render...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 3:53 PM

Thanks Cedarwolf :) I am nearly done, I want to tweak the new bones I added to the top and also add one or two more morphs, but this is pretty near done.  Surely by tomorrow :)

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hborre ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2008 at 7:44 PM

It is definitely looking awesome!


GrandmaPaula ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 12:10 AM

In The USA, Fanny can mean a couple of things.

A woman's name

or a cute word for her butt.LOL.

Love this outfit. Looking forward to getting it.


jartz ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 12:19 AM

Stylish outfit, you're a man of many talents I see.

Can't wait, and thanks for sharing your creations.

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alizea ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 9:21 AM

Please, please  , can you include some empty channels inside the cr2 - I can't wait to make the fits for GND4 and Alice an it would be much easier to inject directly these new morphs into the empty channels ! (Hope it's not too late !)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 9:58 AM

Yeah it is loaded with the extra channels included with the V4 Dev rig, you won't have to do anything funny to it.  I thought about including my own morphs in INJ/REM format but since it's my own model there isn't any need, and it will be simpler for the user to work with anyway.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 10:01 AM · edited Sun, 19 October 2008 at 10:02 AM

By the way the bodice rig I built in has a fairly major downside - since these bones cannot deform anything but their own parent, and their parent is the Chest, they cannot affect the Abdomen polygons, which means the lower handles will be of somewhat limited use.  Nothing I can do about that.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 10:13 AM

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This was the last thing to do, really, add an adjustment morph to smooth the under part of the bodice when the character's breasts are dialed up (which I don't like much but whatever, people like it ^^)

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alizea ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 1:10 PM

Can't wait to play with it !

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rowlando ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 7:15 PM

HI Pjz99

This looks fantastic. I would love to know how to creat movement morphs in clothing, I am nubee and have now got C4D R11 any tutes that are easy to follow, just for making movement morphs in cloths

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pjz99 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 7:30 PM

All the skirt movement is actually not done with morphs, although it could have been - this is done with bone posing, you won't be limited to the shapes you see here.  Although, since the dress is lowish polygon (7k) you can't take it TOOOOOO far.  Serious tinkerers may want to subdivide the dress OBJ in a modeler and make their own high poly version - the morphs would have to be redone but Dimension3D's Morphing Clothes did 90% of the work here, it can do it for anybody else too.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2008 at 9:33 PM

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I spent the day working on materials and prettying up the whole package.  Here's a few demos of how the materials came out, starting with the Fire Mage combo:

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pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2008 at 9:34 PM

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... and the Frost Mage:

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pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2008 at 9:34 PM

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and finally, Air Mage:

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pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2008 at 9:35 PM

I am packaging everything up and will have it up for download in maybe an hour or two.  FYI, thanks.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 12:37 AM

This has been uploaded to the Freebies section here, but if you don't want to wait you can download it now.  Happy seducing!

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