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Subject: Need help from V7 users


GaryMiller ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 11:11 PM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 12:32 AM

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I have had V5 and V6Inf and never had a problem getting the camera to rotate.  Yaw, pitch and roll all worked for me.  But now in V7Xstr I cannot get the camera to rotate along the Z (roll) axis.  The yaw and pitch work just fine, but the roll function is just not functioning.  I am sure there is a setting I am overlooking but for the life of me I cannot find it.

Anyone have any tips or having the same trouble?  Try it and see for yourselves.


melikia ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 11:23 PM

camera always level option turned on?

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GaryMiller ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 11:30 PM

I take you aren't a V7 user?  The Camera level option doesn't exist in V7


agiel ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 11:31 PM

I can confirm the same on Mac. I cannot find how to make the main camera roll in Vue 7.

That and the first time I tried, Vue simply crashed on me when I selected the Rotation tab.

Also - click on the Focus of the camera (the little square in front of it) and then alternate between clicking on the Edit tab and the Measurement tab... strange things happen in that part of the interface. If I click Edit then Measurements, I can see the cube with 3 axis. If I click again Edit then Measurements, there is no cube and '???' displayed at the top of the tab. Clicking again Edit then Measurement brings back the cube.

Very odd.


agiel ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 11:33 PM

On the other hand, you can click on the camera object in one of the 4 viewports and manually rotate it around the Z axis there.


GaryMiller ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 1:19 AM

Thx agiel, I tried your last post but had no luck.  I will try again. 


GaryMiller ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 1:27 AM

Nope, not working...at least not working like it did in V5&6.  It pivots but doesn't roll.  Dang it.  I really need that camera to roll for my next render.  I guess I'll just roll the scene and leave the camera where it is.


melikia ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 1:30 AM

wow - they took away that option?  (camera level)

i'm in shock.  wonder if they buried it somewhere and havent unveiled the "door" yet LOL.  and i'll have V7 soon...

wow.  still in shock.

support ticket time?  hope they get that fixed very soon, cus i like moving my camera around in odd positions - and that has got to be (censored by myself)... wish i coulda been more help, and hope this gets resolved soon. =(

Rarer than a hairy egg and madder than a box of frogs....

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ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 1:47 AM · edited Sun, 23 November 2008 at 1:48 AM

I turned off the "Always Keep Level" button and then I was able to roll the camera.  I'm in Windows XP.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


gandhilion ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 2:25 AM

The Camera Level option is on by default. Not really hidden, its the very first item on the first tab of Object Properties! Once turned off you can roll the camera. I haven't been able to roll with the SpaceNavigator, neither does it allow rotation around an object, unless someone knows otherwise?


bruno021 ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 3:30 AM

Same here, Gary, disabling "keep level" lets you bank the camera, just like in previous versions.



Mari-Anne ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 5:07 AM

Here's an excerpt from the V7 User Manual:

"Always keep level ( ): if toggled, this option instructs Vue 7 to make sure that the camera is
always horizontal, resulting in a horizontal horizon. If (and only if) you deselect this option, you
can add roll to the camera. This can energize pictures on occasion. However, for general purposes, we recommend that you leave this option on."

So it would appear this behavior is as intended.


Mazak ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 5:38 AM
agiel ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 6:30 AM · edited Sun, 23 November 2008 at 6:34 AM

The problem is - on my version of Vue 7 , 'Always keep level' is replaced by 'Blur'.

I cannot find it (and I have been looking for it last night).

Edit: It must have been a late night - I just saw the option. The first highlighted item to the left of the panel. It looks like a sub panel but it is in reality 'Always keep level'.

I was able to Roll after unchecking it.


bruno021 ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 8:26 AM

Yes, it looks like a smiley, different from previous versions.



GaryMiller ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 9:38 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!  What a moron!  Thanks Agiel.  I found it now.  I appreciate everyone's help in this most desperate hour


agiel ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 10:43 AM

It's a fairly good example of the kind of inconsistencies in user interfaces that confuse people. You can find this kind of thing happening in most software if you look well enough.

If you look at most of the tabs, the left side icons are usually sub-tabs. Therefore, you don't pay attention to the highlighted top left icon since it is too easy to assume it means you are on the first sub tab.

I would not have tried to click on it if I didn't have a hint about it in Mazak's screenshot above. The tooltip showed me the way.


GaryMiller ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 2:03 PM

It's also not an intuitive icon.


melikia ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 3:02 PM

Quote - I take you aren't a V7 user?  The Camera level option doesn't exist in V7

grins

seems i've been vindicated.  ;)

no hard feelings... it took me over a week to find that option in 6 esprit. =D

It would make no sense to have that option in software up to a new release, and then remove it.  Not when its a very convenient//handy tool.

Am very glad folks did manage to find it, and also glad they kept it in 7 LOL.  (soon, my precious... soon)

Rarer than a hairy egg and madder than a box of frogs....

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