I currently use Poser 6 and have a tough time trying to render reflections. I've updated my system to 2gigs of RAM and it still says that there isn't enough memory to complete the render. And the thing is, it isn't a render full of reflections either. I only had one thing reflecting a character's face and it crashed the program.

What I was wondering, is if Poser 7 isn't as quirky about that sort of thing. Either that, or what I can do to fix the glitch or problem in Poser 6 so I can render reflections without a problem.

Any ideas or advice?

Thanks,
-Summer

Quote -  I currently use Poser 6 and have a tough time trying to render reflections. I've updated my system to 2gigs of RAM and it still says that there isn't enough memory to complete the render. And the thing is, it isn't a render full of reflections either. I only had one thing reflecting a character's face and it crashed the program.

What I was wondering, is if Poser 7 isn't as quirky about that sort of thing. Either that, or what I can do to fix the glitch or problem in Poser 6 so I can render reflections without a problem.

Any ideas or advice?  Thanks,-Summer

Poser 7 is much better about memory related problems, IMO, than 6 was. It also appears more stable but, occasionally, it does just say "The heck with it" and crash during the odd render.  Usually when I just have asked it to do too much on my older 'puter.  However, if you're raytracing reflections and asking it to calculate 20 passes... that could be an issue.  What are your render settings for raytracing?  Raytracing reflections is one of the more intensive processes you'll encounter in Poser.

When I bought Poser 7 some time ago, I could render some scenes which gave me memory problems earlier. P7 uses a totally different system for texture handling, which uses much less memory. In addition to that, you can run the renderer as external thread, and use more memory for it this way. So I'm pretty sure that P7 will help you to render such scenes.

Quote - > Quote -  I currently use Poser 6 and have a tough time trying to render reflections. I've updated my system to 2gigs of RAM and it still says that there isn't enough memory to complete the render. And the thing is, it isn't a render full of reflections either. I only had one thing reflecting a character's face and it crashed the program.

What I was wondering, is if Poser 7 isn't as quirky about that sort of thing. Either that, or what I can do to fix the glitch or problem in Poser 6 so I can render reflections without a problem.

Any ideas or advice?  Thanks,-Summer

Poser 7 is much better about memory related problems, IMO, than 6 was. It also appears more stable but, occasionally, it does just say "The heck with it" and crash during the odd render.  Usually when I just have asked it to do too much on my older 'puter.  However, if you're raytracing reflections and asking it to calculate 20 passes... that could be an issue.  What are your render settings for raytracing?  Raytracing reflections is one of the more intensive processes you'll encounter in Poser.

My settings are standard, I guess. I added a mild reflection to a knife and that was it, Poser 6 gave me the royal middle finger. It sucked majorly.

Another question before I forget - I have about 17gigs of stuff for my Poser runtime folder. If I DO upgrade to Poser 7, can I just copy my old Runtime folder and overwrite the new one that Poser 7 creates? I mean, I know I CAN, but will it cause problems?

You can just set P7 to use P6 runtime folder as external runtime. I did so with PPro and P7.

Quote - You can just set P7 to use P6 runtime folder as external runtime. I did so with PPro and P7.

...Wow, I had NO idea you could do that.

.......How CAN you do that?! You've piqued my interest, friend. =D

In the Library palette, go to the top level where it shows the Download and Poser library folders, click the + button (at bottom) to add a new library reference, and choose the parent folder of the Runtime that you want to add as an external library.

Don't overwrite the installed Poser Runtime with anything else, since it also contains the files that define what the Poser user interface looks like. Overwrite all that with an earlier Poser Runtime and it's likely that your new Poser won't work any more.

Summer what bucket size are you set for in the render options?
64?   more?  less?

Whatever it is set for -you might want to decrease the bucket size, lower bucket number renders  draw on less memory ( but the renders take longer)

Quote - Summer what bucket size are you set for in the render options?
64?   more?  less?

Whatever it is set for -you might want to decrease the bucket size, lower bucket number renders  draw on less memory ( but the renders take longer)

I'm using 64, I'm REALLY unfamiliar with using the Firefly system... I've used the Poser 4 renderer in all of my pictures other than one, LMAO

try lowering it from 64.

BTW is your machine running any other major processes aside from Poser  while you are rendering?

2G RAM should be fine for Poser firefly renders- no matter how  "wet" you render is ( sorry,terminology from my musician days  )

Quote - try lowering it from 64.

BTW is your machine running any other major processes aside from Poser  while you are rendering?

2G RAM should be fine for Poser firefly renders- no matter how  "wet" you render is ( sorry,terminology from my musician days  )

Nope. No other programs. I close everything else down when I render (unless it's a music player, but even then, I close that down when I'm actually doing the render). I'll try lowering it and see how it works...other than that, I'm...well...stumped. And, sort of ignorant when it comes to the real FEATURES of the program. How I've been using it is fine but a reflection is vital in the piece I want to make, lol.