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Subject: Morph World is closed.
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A person has a perfect right to yank their content off their web site, if it's getting misused. I just have one request - when/if you guys get disillusioned with the Poser populace, PLEASE at least continue to sell stuff through Renderosity or some other popular Poser store! Don't abandon us 'legitimate' customers who pay through the nose for every model we own! :-o Please?
I can understand him being upset, now I'm upset to lose that site. I'm curious though, how does a morph maker know their morphs are being used? I don't make characters to distribute, other than sheba, and she had no "outside" morphs and she was free. I'm curious, because I keep my morphs, in 2 folders, "any use" and "restricted". Many of the morphs do the same thing. Move brows, elf ears, fangs, cheeks, breasts... etc. So I always wondered how they keep them straight, do they have to rip them apart and look at the geometry? What about "spawned morphs"?
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same
God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has
intended us to forgo their use.
-Galileo
An extreme loss to everyone in the community. Sad to see it go. Everything I learned about how to morph was due to Trav. LadySilverMage...morphs are pieces of art just like a rendered image someone has done. Trust me when you create a morph and you see it used somewhere you know that it's yours..trust me on that. GeorgeD
Well that just sucks. Traveller has been responsible for some great morphs and characters, and they were appreciated by many. What is it going to take for people to realize that pulling crap like "borrowing" free stuff for their own profit is just screwing us all? In the end the only Poser items left will be for sale.
Ah, I see, I haven't even got the slightest idea how to make a morph, lol! But I have wondered, because if I use an "evil brow" morph of person A, it looks to me like the "evil brow" morph of person B. I always thought that kinda sucked, because what if someone was taking credit for someone elses morphs? But awhile back on the C&D there was a question of morph use on a model possibly belonging to someone else, but they said they didn't know and would never know. I thought that meant there was no way of knowing and that morph creator's were in a bad place copyright wise compared to other creators. Seemed unfair... I hate that someone like Traveler is so generous with their creations and others always have to come along and muck it up for everyone else!
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same
God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has
intended us to forgo their use.
-Galileo
(((I hate that someone like Traveler is so generous with their creations and others always have to come along and muck it up for everyone else!))) Me too but, now you know why quite a few of us don't give anything away for free. Some screwball, eventually, will try to make money the "easy way" using your stuff...why shouldn't it be you? (that opens up another can of "anti capitalist BS")
That is a true shame - If Traveler reads this post, please let us know if there is anything the rest of us can do. We really appreciated your work, and are sorry that you have been stung. If there is any advice you can pass on to us newcomers, it would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes to you, Ron
Well he took down the morphs for Vickie and Mike once before, so it was only a matter of time til he got frustrated again. Kind of like I'll give you this food because you don't have any and then see you selling it to someone else in the same boat. I think I would have done it sooner, you have to give him credit for the patience he's shown. Marque
(I'm curious though, how does a morph maker know their morphs are being used). A morph will make certain EXACT changes in a mesh, every time. If, say, someone were to use one of mine...(Which won't happen, 'cause I only deal privately....Well, hopin' it won't happen, anyway.)...I would know in an instant...Say, an eye shape, or lip shape, that is uniquely mine. It is probably easier to spot a morph, than a texture rip off. This is just another sad thing. Lately, in the 3d online world, there has been so much thievery, etc. Oh, well, I am glad there was a Traveller. He is the one who inspired me, through his work, to begin making my own morphs. After the first 80 or so shoot me in the head, this sucks, ones, I began to catch on. I hope he comes back, though. I hate the shifting that this community is doing, these day. Pop...pop...pop!!!
Hi Folks! Clearly, the loss of a great Poser resource. Earlier today (7/6) I spent nearly an hour trying to get a prospective web site client to understand why I was refusing to use images of other people's original artwork (including some pretty famous ones) on his commercial website. He had not obtained permission to use any of them. His rationale? "Well, they're all dead!" We unfortunately live in a time when in a lot of people's mind something isn't wrong until you get caught or someone gets angry enough to retaliate. The deeper tragedy of this episode is that these folks who use bootleg versions of retail software, mass downloaders, or shameless copies of other people's digital props see absolutely nothing wrong with it. And they have no sense about how their actions hurt the rest of us. Traveler's site is just another in a growing procession of online resources that will shut down or drastically reduce their access because of the ethically bankrupt individuals who are out here in cyberspace--and among us. Peter (Dr Zik)
I'v downloaded lots of freebies. The only Poser Item I have ever purchased was Traveler's Nun's habit which he was kind enough to create at my request. He is certainly one of the most kind generous and generous people around. I know everyone wishes him well. Unfortunately, even Microsoft can't prevent piracy of their products. Whether free or commercial, it is a fact that anything good will be stolen. Copyrights are useless for most because the thieves are usually small potatoes who aren't worth suing even if you could afford to. Boycotts and shunning MIGHT help, but somehow I suspect Traveler is too nice to name the culprits. In the final analysis, each individual has to decide whether sharing their work with the world is worth the price. It's a hard old world sometimes. Thanks Traveler and Godspeed.
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken
Traveler is indeed one of the kindest and most generous members of the Poser community. I've seen him go out of his way many times to help others, and it's sad that there are those who weren't courteous enough to ask permission to use his work, or to give credit where credit was due. Morph World will be missed by the community ... but I understand why Traveler (and others) are pulling back. Trav, I wish you the best of luck in wherever you decide to go from here! You deserve nothing but the best.
oh man... the worst thing is if people ASKED, traveller woulda said YES in a second AND not asked for a cut!!! he's that generous, i saw from the tarot project. :( people didn't ask cos they thought he would ask for a cut of profits?!? you only expect from others what you expect from yourself... this SO sucks for the freebies(hobbyists) community. :(
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a sweet disorder in the dress kindles in clothes a wantoness,
do more bewitch me than when art is too precise in every part
i was gonna ask that as well... how do you tell if it's your morph... (unless they haven't changed it from default) cos people don't use a morph on its own, they'll use it in combo with other morphs they made or got from elsewhere. i made quite a few face magnets (which i will turn into morph targets eventually.) i load them onto morphs i've downloaded and i can't recognise MY OWN magnets' effects!
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a sweet disorder in the dress kindles in clothes a wantoness,
do more bewitch me than when art is too precise in every part
"i was gonna ask that as well... how do you tell if it's your morph..." The answer is that usually you can't be sure unless you look at the mesh. You might THINK you recognize the nose and so on... but until you see the mesh you're always facing the chance you are wrong. Unless it is extremely distinctive.
There is no geometry in any of the morphs at Morph World...morph stripping removes all the geometry and saves the morph information only. And as far as who owns the copyright? Well they both do..CL and DAZ for the models and Trav for his artistic work put into each morph. As far as twisting one of Travs morphs into a few of others doesn't make it a loop hole to call it your own. I cant take part of someones texture and blend it into part of others and call it my own. GeorgeD
If what you do changes the morph parameters from what they used to be then it is no longer the same morph target. look at the parameter diles when yhou turn them they have numbers on them. As for templates they are not changed by a dile setting, You have to paint them. Changing something with help to make something new and different is not the same as stealing something if it is changed all around when your done, TV does it all the time with adds and commercials.
How can you take a copyright object and make changes it to it and sell it? This violates copyright law if they are sold without permission of the copyright holder. So If DAZ3D has copyright on the figures they made, How can someone come along and resell changes to geometry they do not own copyright too? Morph targets are made from obj files this is called reverse engineering of software when you make changes to it. This stuff is a little confuseing.
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