To conclude the title of this thread:

I feel like a pitiful amateur when I browse through the photos on this site:

Onexposure

Just came across this one yesterday and I dare say that it's one of the best I've seen so far.
For starters, just browse through the categories on the right... and hold your inspiration box open! ;o))

Yes there are some great photos there, thanks for sharing.

Thank you for the link..fine viewing there and inspiration.

Yeah,  in reference to their FAQ, most of the photos posted here at RR or other sites would NOT be accepted at OneExposure.  Many people would not be accustomed to the stricter guidelines and from what I've been reading, 'no holds bar critique"  Although this kind of critique can definitely be used in your favor as a way to grow and learn. Most of the views I've read really do value this kind of feedback.

Knowing what they WON'T accept...really narrows down the options.

**http://1x.com/about/#faq3243

**What kind of photos are not published?

"*Photos with poor technique, with no other aspects to compensate for it, are not published. Many macro shots have a too narrow depth of field for example. A photo might also be technically perfect, but still not accepted here because it's ordinary and we have seen it many times before. If a photo doesn't stand out, it rarely grabs your heart either.

Photos that are only documentary, for example of a building, a plant or a performance, are not published. Those photos need to be creative as well, for example with an interesting angle, composition, lighting, symbolism or something else added to the original motif.

Editing is another common reason for rejection. Quite a lot of editing is allowed in the creative edit section, but no photo should appear over-edited, the editing should be as invisible as possible and always reinforce the message of the photo. Pure digital art, with little resemblance to the original photograph, is not accepted here.

Common motifs are sunsets, seagulls, roses, tulips, crosses, tourist attractions, typical wedding-shots and photos of kids, pets and vacations that are better left for the family album. Other common themes are the lonely tree, the people on the beach, the rocks and smooth water, the boats and sunset and hearts in varying forms. The common shots need to be outstanding and technically flawless to be accepted.

Photos with flags in them, have to really outstanding and there need to be a very special point being made with the flag or it won't be published, because flags are such cliché symbols.

We rarely publish photos with the photographer or cameras in them, unless they are outstanding, because cameras are usually not that beautiful in artistic photos, and because it ruins the illusion - the viewer is reminded it's just a photograph.

Zoo-photos where it's obvious the photo is not shot in nature, but there is no special point of it being shot in a zoo, will not be published unless they are extremely good. A photo of a sad animal clinging to bars or a really happy one may in contrast be published since it raises the question whether it's right to have animals in captivity or not.

Photos of sculptures, paintings, posters or other artwork are not accepted unless given a deeper meaning, since the photographer is not the original artist.

Product shots, logos and other shots with a typical commercial style are not accepted because they are not considered artistic here.

Photos of homeless people are rarely published, because of the ethical issue. For the same reason don't upload photos of nude children please, it's not appropriate.

Pornographic material or very repulsive photos are strictly prohibited, uploading such photos will cause a permanent ban.*"

http://1x.com/about/

Maybe we should all submit a photo we think is out best and see what happens....would be an eye opening experience for sure!

Je

That said, thier thumbnail policy and checks are not as good as ours.  I spent a few minutes looking through and found a few with Content Advisory for no reason.  Others with nude thumbnails and naked children.  I can see pro's and con's for both sites.

I had not even read the FAQ... just looked at the images. It's a very strict publishing policy, but I think it reflects in the quality of the images.

David, when I said "one of the best I've seen so far", I wasn't referring to the site, nor the policy (of course RR is still the very best), but solely to the quality of the submitted works.

These rules they have contradict themself.  ie "*but no photo should appear over-edited, the editing should be as invisible as possible and always reinforce the message of the photo. Pure digital art, with little resemblance to the original photograph, is not accepted here."

*There is quite a lot of selective colouring shots.  That is not invisible. and a lot of HDR

Joe,  I think that your idea is a good one.  I've seen a lot of people here talk about wanting critical feedback on their photos.  This would be one heck of an opportunity to get one. 

And I don't know about anyone else, but I would keep dogging it until I got one in!  At least then I would know that I'm improving.  Of course, after that I would work even harder to get my approval rating up.  :a_wink:

Actually....if you look closely, there are already some Rendo/ex-Rendo people posting there....

That said, the site feature to encourage copying and sending your image to others may not appeal to some....

I have seen a lot of people caught up in the game of trying to get images onto sites with strict guidelines. Airliners.net is another example.  I prefer the more open policy of RR because it gives a chance for beginners and progressing photographers to get their pics into view and learn from looking at others submissions.

Everyone has to start somewhere and RR is a good place. I know some advanced image makers leave to go elsewhere but I have no intention of heading off, even though I make a living with some of my pictures it is still good to be able to try new ideas and see how the images are reacted to.

Just had a look.Some very good landscapes there but a lot have had quite a bit of post work.
The portrait gallert looked pretty mundane to me.
There is a shot of a fat guy sat nude on a chair..whats that about.Put me off my lunch.
Think I will stick to rosity and a few other sites.
But then again my photography is for pleasure,I try to improve but not to the extent of obsession.
 

Wow! Yes, there are some stunning shots there, but I think I've seen some as good, if not better, here! The one thing I liked about that site is that is all photography and no flash ads with scantily clad poser models on every page! LOL :P
A lot of good comments here. I like the idea of trying to post there with my mundane work. I don't like the idea of my work being sent around as an ecard, although that could have positive effect that I'm not aware of. I didn't get a chance to check out the forum there. I really enjoy our forum here, I think we have a really good repore here on RR. Maybe that's because the feel I got from visiting that site was on the "cold" side? Like standing in a gallery where you can hear a pin drop and your afraid to even clear your throat, for fear of being sneered at. MO -

I agree too, a lot of stunners and a level to shoot for! Thanks for sharing the link.

I would love to see if any of you guys submit any work there. Good luck! Very inspiring to just spend time in the galleries.

Heh, that would be nice. ;']

Update: I noticed that clintnewsham already managed to get one of his images published on the site. Way to go Clint! ;o)

(btw, it's not that easy: I also tried with two images; they were both rejected) ;o(

Congrats Clint! I know what you mean. I've tried getting some of my photos on those $1 stock photography sites and the majority that I submitted were rejected for various reasons. I guess I don't have that stock look, hahahah. It must be even more stringent on that site. Like they say, "...We don't judge over good and bad, or over art, we merely decide if a photo fits into our gallery or not..." ~Kort

You certainly do have that stock look, Kort... but I'm not sure about your images. ;o))

Attached Link: Imaging Resource PotD Gallery

Hehehe, you're funny. ;'] The attached link is another gallery or really good photography, though perhaps not up to the same level as 1X.

For what it is worth, I got my first rejection.
Sheesh, only 3 uploads per week with a free acct., that is pretty rough.

Obviously, Kort, you photo doesn't fit the gallery..time for a resize. ;  )

I have entered juried jewelry shows and done just fine. I have entered competitions and done so-so or ok or not any good at all.  I gave up on the idea...Why?  I never could read the judges and know if when they said "wearable" they meant by a living human being.    Most winners were so far off the wall they should hang on a wall and not be called jewelry..in that case I would appreciate the work as fine art and craftsmanship.  My stuff did not fit the gallery or the taste of the judges.

Seems to me that photogenesis.(.is that the one some here have been on?), meaning the photo site where you did have images, that site had or has excellent photo work.   I cannot say it is less than on the one you tried.

I do say the photos on the site first mentioned in this thread are very pleasing and done very well in my opinion.  I also know photos may be rejected for reasons other than an equal level of quality of the presentation.    Yikes,  with my stuff there is not a need to even try to get a photo on..well, I have "one" but will save my ego and not submit it.          Tom

"Sheesh, only 3 uploads per week with a free acct., that is pretty rough."

Seven rejections per week would be a lot tougher still... :closedeyes:

I just got my third rejection. There were three reasons for the rejection:

Impact. Yeah right, my motto has always been: "I don't seek to impress, but to express". Big deal.

Composition. They have no idea what they're talking about. (see Tom, I still have my ego preserved)

Motif. Exactly, I deliberately choose non-subjects and non-actions. I'll take that as a compliment.

Okay, 2 rejections so far and one image going into a second round or screening. I didn't expect the first ones to make it so no worries but the current one I consider one of my best so fingers crossed. The site admin pretty much admits they are going for a look and if they don't think your photo has it, then it won't get on the site. There is one person who has final say so it pretty much comes down to his tastes. I was suprised that a photo called "Old Pines" made it. While nice, it didn't seem to be up to the quality of the site. Maybe the submitter is in with the admin... Anyway, here is the critic for my Circuit City II image. Pretty fair I think: Comment from screener: Your picture has been evaluated both by the site crew and the members. The common decision was to not publish. Comments from members: * There's nothing really to hold my focus. * Good concept and I hope others understand that Circuit City was a large chain of electronic stores in the US - they just went bust. Additional feedback: Of those who voted against your image, five indicated that there is a problem with impact, three noted motif as a weakness and one selected disturbing objects as a reason for not publishing the image. The other rejected image (Raining Rainbows) got this critique - nothing. No reasons for rejecting it. Oh well, no skin off my back. :')

I posted the Raining Rainbows image in their critique forum. It will be interesting to see what comments I receive since everyone I got in my gallery here was positive. They have some nice guidelines for critque there, ones perhaps more of us could keep in mind. Here they are if anyone is interested: "Do not expect to receive the specific reason(s) for why your picture was not published. The sole purpose of Critique is to allow you to gather members' opinions; however, the final decision on publication rests with the Crew - and remember, member screening comments are often taken into consideration by the Crew. Only post a picture in Critique if your true desire is to canvass member opinion. The Critique forum is not the place for complaining about a rejection nor is it the place to get the proverbial "pat on the back" for being rejected. Obtaining honest, forthright and constructive opinion should be your only goal to posting a picture in Critique. Correspondingly, providing honest, forthright and constructive opinion should be your only goal as a commentator in Critique. Expect constructive criticism and do not post a picture if you cannot handle criticism. Never post a picture in Critique if you are angry. Wait until you have calmed down. Please remember to acknowledge those who have taken the time to provide you with critique - even a simple "thank you" would be a wonderful sign of appreciation. Members who post comments in Critique are expected to do so in a polite, respectful and constructive manner. Aggressive, insulting comments will not be tolerated. Critique comments should address the perceived strengths and weaknesses of the particular picture and specific reasons should be provided to support your opinion. Generic comments with no explanation, such as, "I like it and voted for it" should never be a part of the Critique forum. The members of 1X come from different backgrounds, cultures and experience. Moreover, english may not be the particular member's native language. Recognize this and understand that language and cultural background may impact the apparent manner in which comments are provided. What may be perceived as harsh or un-complementary may not, and is likely not, the intention of the commentator. The key is to give commentators the "benefit of the doubt" and to ask for clarification. Do not jump to conclusions! Critique is about opinion, more importantly, explained opinion. There is no right or wrong opinion. Constructive and informative discussions on different people's opinion is encouraged and participants in Critique should embrace such discussion. Personal attacks on members because of differing opinions will not be tolerated as comments should focus exclusively on the picture, not the person behind the picture nor the perceived intent of the comment. Comparison with other pictures is only allowed if the comparison is obviously relevant and the point of contention cannot be illustrated in other ways. Comparison of photos belonging to the commentators is not allowed."

***Quote:

"I was suprised that a photo called "Old Pines" made it. While nice, it didn't seem to be up to the quality of the site. Maybe the submitter is in with the admin...***"

It makes a difference what level of subscription you have. With a payed subscription (bronze membership), more of your images will be published easier than if you have a free subscription. And people who already have a number of published works, will find it easier to get some lesser works published.
The first step seems to be the hardest (getting in, that means)... Once you're in, things should go smoother. I guess that would apply to many other things as well.

Yeah, I suppose. Pay to play, beh. I want to make sure I CAN get in on my own merits before paying, not that I'm planning on it. My other image didn't make it btw, so I'm 3:0.

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Got my 4th rejection from 1X. Buh. On a lighter note, Geert got one of his oil and water photos accepted. Congrats Geert!

Aahh Kort... Buh! Ugh!
Can I comfort you by saying that there is someone who's had 103 images rejected on 1x..?
(well, he does have 317 images published also, and it's a Belgian)

Thanks for the congrats... It's amazing: my image has had 2,633 views in less than a day (compare that to the 40-ish total views per image here on RR), 15 comments, 16 favorites...
I saw that clintnewsham's image has more than 27,000 views... wow!

Yeah, there is certainly another level of activity and exposure at work on 1X. Thanks for the comfort! ;']

Guys, one of my images just got accepted over at Onexposure :D
Another one got rejected and one is still being screened, but I'm sure it will be accepted.
Thanks for this thread !

Congrats my friend. Great to see you have a photo get accepted there. It's a good one for sure and I'd wager there will be many more!

Thanks Kort :)
I was kind of nervous about whether or not they would get accepted. Luckily, at least one did :)

I must say I'm baffled..
My Tiger beetle image got excepted and my landscape got rejected...

I can request to post it for critique, but then I'll have make up a bunch of bullshit.
I'd rather you guys help me out.

Accepted image:

Rejected image:

The reasons for rejection:
"Of those who voted against your image, twelve indicated that there is a problem with impact, two noted composition as a weakness and one selected exposure as a reason for not publishing the image."

Thanks for your feedback :)

Jeroen, about your rejected image:

With 'impact', I think what they mean is that they have seen this type of image before and that it adds nothing significantly new. These guys are tough; you have to surprise them or slap them in the face with an unexpected twist or with an emotionally captivating image (eg. the addition of a lonely creature or some other 'curiosity'). There are probably a lot of similar misty images on 1x already; some not even as good as this one. But they may think that this was just one too many ;o)

With 'composition' they probably mean that it's a fairly straightforward compo; they want something challenging that makes them say: "now why didn't I think of that before?" They also want the composition to tell a story... leading the viewer's eyes to the emotional focus point. To be honest, I don't exactly know where I am supposed to look here... The composition needs to largely support what you want to convey with the image. Probably they found that was not the case here, or they didn't see it ;o))

With 'exposure' they meant that the image doesn't make use of all the possibilities that were at hand. The image goes from dark to light in a very 'linear' kind of way. You took the shot in the direction of the sun, which means that you see no direct light on the objects in the scene; you see only the shadowed side. The foreground is very dark; maybe it would have been a nice addition to light up that fallen tree with a fill-in flash, that would even have provided an excellent resting point and an interesting 'emotional focal point'. Maybe you will say that you wanted to show the scene like it really was, but think of this: as an image maker, it's you that makes the image, according to what you want to say or show. You can use what you see as a starting point, and use what you know and can do to make it stronger. Especially where exposure is concerned.

Just my two eurocents ;o)
Geert

Good crit Geert. The only think I would add in the composition dept. is that you have a lot going on in the landscape, and my eye is not quite sure where to go. Wonderful photo though.

Thanks guys ! :)
I take it you two have been looking around on 1x ? There are a lot of landscapes that are really mundane, no great light or composition at all..
Oh well.. maybe I should just be glad I got one image on there ;)

"Oh well.. maybe I should just be glad I got one image on there ;)" I know I will be when I finally get one accepted. ((positive thinking))

I'm not the ideal person to criticize landscape photographs... I find Ansel Adams' images mundane and boring.  :m_sleep:

Btw: Clint has a second one published.

Quote - I'm not the ideal person to criticize landscape photographs... I find Ansel Adams' images mundane and boring.  :m_sleep:

Well.. you're not the only one ;)

Wtf ??
I just posted some well supported criticism about the screening process in OE's forum.
I went back there to copy it and post it here.. it's GONE !
The bastards just deleted it.. :(

They are definitely favoring some established members over others, even against the screening rules.
Really great macro images get rejected and some half-assed ones get published.

I'm not even complaining about my own images being rejected. I just complained that I got no feedback on them at all, despite the fact that one of the three I posted yesterday made it through the first round.

/disappointed

Ok, I just got a sitemail from OE about the post that was deleted.
This was my post:

*I feel the screening process is off.
I regularly see images published that are definitely less than some images that get rejected.
I'll give an example (I'm not trying to bash anyone, just making a point):

Rejected:
http://1x.com/mview.php?p=r120880

Published:
http://1x.com/v2/#photos/macro/23743/
http://1x.com/v2/#photos/macro/23493/

Also, this one was rejected, then simply flipped, then published:
http://1x.com/v2/#photos/latest-additions/23757/

It seems a lot of screeners have a hard-on for extreme close-ups while largely disregarding other aspects, such as focus.
It also seems that (despite the site rules) heavy post-processing is actually favored over natural images.
Am I missing something ?

I'm also disappointed that my latest images were rejected without any kind of feedback, despite the fact that one of them made it through the first round of screening.
In order for them to be posted in critique I have to answer some questions, but I won't bother.
The questions:

• What do you want to tell with this photo?
• What reaction did you expect people would get while watching this photo?
• What is your reaction while watching this photo?
  Now how would you answer these questions for the above images ??

This was the rest of the email:

Inactive photographer.

This post has been deleted by a forum moderator. If you want to know more why, contact the site crew. Most common reasons for post deletion:

• Your post was sent to the Photo critique-forum but didn't include any photo critique. Only post in this forum if you have some critique to give to help the photographer to improve the photo.
• Your post violated our rules for the forum, see here: http://www.onexposure.net/forum.php?action=rules

Regards, Forum moderators

Hey guys, I'm not meaning to brag here, but I got three photos published on 1x.com...
Now where's the rest of you..?
:b_tonguewink:

There you are Kort..! ;o)

A big hurray for your 1st on 1x! :thumbupboth: