Quote - What version of Poser was this?

Poser Pro

Do you mean Poser 7-ish Pro, or Poser 4-ish Pro Pack?

Quote - Do you mean Poser 7-ish Pro, or Poser 4-ish Pro Pack?

These go back to the Poser ProPack and Poser 5 days:) I checked the joint centers on the heels and also Steph3 in Poser Pro..... newest version... The joint centers and falloff zones are symmetrical. I didn't load the blank cr2 so maybe something is borked in it.

Did you try using Steph3's cr2 and not the blank cr2? You will end up with a bloated cr2 but that can be fixed. I seem to remember there were problems with conforming some things without the IK statements in the cr2.... but my memory is terrible any more:)

I never use the blank cr2. I just made my own from the figure's cr2. I took out all the IK statements in the body parts and removed the eyes and fingers.

Ed

Quote - Did you try using Steph3's cr2 and not the blank cr2?

Yeah I've tried that also, it produces the same "wrong" deformation (removed IK on that try also).  Are those models of yours free or commercial?  If they're free can I take a look at your CR2?  Thanks.

Quote - What version of Poser was this?
edit - is the toe actually rigged separate from the foot there? I wouldn't think so for the platform shoe, how about the boot at the bottom?

I never put toes in my shoes. They will still deform and work but you don't need to have actual geometry for them. On the other set of boot heels.. there is foot and shin geometry.

I guess it's the same principle as a skirt that is moved by the thigh bones, even though there is no 'thigh' part in the skirt.

What I meant was, are there bones for the toes?  I don't mean polygon grouping.

Quote - What I meant was, are there bones for the toes?  I don't mean polygon grouping.

No there isn't a bone for the toes.

Attached Link: V3 & SP Clothing Pack [DAZ product page]

Quote - No there isn't a bone for the toes.

While I don't doubt that works for what you were doing (platform shoe that doesn't bend at the toe) I've been talking about a rig with toe bones, so that the toe of the shoe can flex.  Thanks though.

Ah I see, that DAZ promo pic has her in the same boot with a different morph applied, a bit confusing.  The new download is still rigged wrong though (wrong in both Poser and DAZ|Studio).

Quote -  Hm this is interesting. So there's really no heels for SP3?

Not quite correct,just go and visit the store:
Mask-da, billy-t and dx30 is selling such items!

Quote - > Quote - No there isn't a bone for the toes.

While I don't doubt that works for what you were doing (platform shoe that doesn't bend at the toe) I've been talking about a rig with toe bones, so that the toe of the shoe can flex.  Thanks though.

You do not need a toe bone for shoes to bend at the toes. The bending the toes of the base figure (Steph3) will bend the toe area of the shoes. You do have to have the toe body part in the cr2. I hide it so it doesn't show in the body parts list.

A body part is a bone :huh:

Can you just show me the CR2 for your model?  I think we are using our terms in different ways.

I'd like to see a screenshot of the shoe rig. A part without a bone becomes disconnected from the rigged geometry. A part with two bones is good to go.

Quote - A body part is a bone :huh:

Can you just show me the CR2 for your model?  I think we are using our terms in different ways.

Ok.. I guess I said it wrong...... There is no toe group in the obj file.... 

So I guess this means you're not willing to show me the rig you came up with, which is OK.

Quote - So I guess this means you're not willing to show me the rig you came up with, which is OK.

I'm at work and don't have access to the files at this very moment.

Well when it's convenient I'd still like to see it :) I appreciate it.