To those of you who are using the aforementioned version of Vue (Mac/Intel),  is it now as stable as the Windows version  and does its integration with C4d R11 work as well as the Windows version?

Thank you in advance.

 By the lack of response I can only assume that no one is using the Intel/Mac version of Vue 7.5 xstream along with C4d R11?  

Check out my system specs in my sig below. I have Vue 7i 7.4 right now because I can live until 8.0 comes out. I can say mine works fine for my Vue 7i but not about 7.5x or C4D, sorry.

Quote - Check out my system specs in my sig below. I have Vue 7i 7.4 right now because I can live until 8.0 comes out. I can say mine works fine for my Vue 7i but not about 7.5x or C4D, sorry.

Thank you for your input, however, my question relates specifically to xtream and C4d.  

Over the years, I have been using various iterations of Vue for Mac, currently Vue 6 Infinite but at this point, aside from my video editing software (Final Cut, etc.) my most heavily used software is C4d and it is for this reason that I am interested in 7.5 xstream.  My experience with Vue 6 and earlier versions has taught me that what the developer promises and what you actually get are often two entirely different things and before I invest another +/- $1000. to upgrade, I would like to determine, to within a reasonable degree of certainty, that the plugin (xstream) will work in C4d R11 for Mac as advertised.  Unfortunately, either there are no users on this forum with that particular setup or there are none whom are willing to comment.  The E-on forum is even less informative in this regard than Renderosity leaving me with no possible source for an answer.  One poster had suggested downloading the demo version but there does not appear to be a demo for 7.5 xstream.

Anyway, thank you again for your thoughtful comments.

 No sooner had I pressed the "post" button, I received an e-mail from E-on advising of a Vue 7.5 xstream PLE download.  I will give it a try and report back ... fingers crossed that it does not nefariously interract with any other software on my 8core, up to and including C4d.

Quote -  No sooner had I pressed the "post" button, I received an e-mail from E-on advising of a Vue 7.5 xstream PLE download.  I will give it a try and report back ... fingers crossed that it does not nefariously interract with any other software on my 8core, up to and including C4d.

I got that same notice today too about the 7.5 PLE. Hopefully that will help you and I would be interested in knowing myself. Right now, I use Modo and Poser Pro on my Mac Pro and soon plan to add "Mudbox" from Autodesk Mac version as well. I can say that it works fine with those programs but I do not own C4D yet.

Let me know what you find out and best of luck.

Quote - > Quote -  No sooner had I pressed the "post" button, I received an e-mail from E-on advising of a Vue 7.5 xstream PLE download.  I will give it a try and report back ... fingers crossed that it does not nefariously interract with any other software on my 8core, up to and including C4d.

I got that same notice today too about the 7.5 PLE. Hopefully that will help you and I would be interested in knowing myself. Right now, I use Modo and Poser Pro on my Mac Pro and soon plan to add "Mudbox" from Autodesk Mac version as well. I can say that it works fine with those programs but I do not own C4D yet.

Let me know what you find out and best of luck.

Well, here's what I've encountered within just a few hours of use (Vue 7.5 xstream PLE and C4d R11 latest build and Mac OSX 10.4. ... latest version, 8core 3.2 Ghz Mac with 4gig ram.):
There were no less than 5 crashes and these were system crashes ... no way to force closure. I must say that they ocurred most frequently with the assignment of materials and or use of the material editor.  In addition, I noticed that some of the Vue materials do not render properly in that they look entirely different when rendered than what is seen in the material manager, or for that matter, when the same materials are used and  rendered via Vue 6i on the same machine.
Loading a scene should bring up the sky or atmosphere window but it does not.
That's all I've noticed so far but I plan to put more time into it tomorrow.

BTW, I have been using PoserPro to create characters which are then imported into C4d via Interposerpro for animation.   C4d offers so many more possibilities than Poser for animation, scene creation, rendering, etc., but there is a learning curve and, of course, it is relatively costly but all things being equal, it's a bargain ... it works and works well on the Mac and I have zero issues with it.

 Well, a few more hours and a few more crashes with 7.5 xstream but I suspect that some of the crashes may possibly be the fault of the PLE edition as opposed to the purchased edition.

It is working within C4d R11.  The 3D Connexion Space Pilot is working as well and IPP seems to experience no conflict with the xtream plug.  Using C4d's renderer is relatively quick (I haven't tried VRay as of yet, although it is next on my list of tests for the Vue C4d combo), even with a complex scene containing a mixture of Vue, Poser and C4d elements.  Animation works as it should.

If I can somehow wrap my head around the fact that crashes will be inevitable until, or perhaps if and when, Mac stability issues have been addressed and resolved, I may decide to purchase the software but for the time being I will continue to test the program.
 

 Since there have been very visits to this post, I will assume that there are very few people using Vue, C4d and the Mac and for that reason the following will most likely go unnoticed by the user community, nevertheless, I feel obligated to say the following about said software/hardware combination:

I have been testing the PLE edition of Vue 7.5 xstream for the Mac (8core, 3.2ghz, 4gig ram, 3tb raid) and C4d and have met with nothing less than persistent frustration.  Vue has been responsible for a myriad of crashes under a variety of circumstances but most frequently when working with materials, either assigning or editing same or when rendering either small distributions, not large, of ecosystems or even simple scenes.  In addition, there have been hangups that occasionally and miraculously seem to self-resolve while others do not.  In all, I would have to say that, at least from my experience and in my opinion, the aforementioned hardware/software combination, regardless of its tremendous potential, is currently not workable for my purposes and I have removed it from my computer.

 The following with 7.4 42999

I have a repeatable crash when editing a function in the terrain function editor. This crash occurs when editing a terrain function. The busy icon will show, Vue7.4 will stop and cause the whole OS to freeze. No method to force quit, the only way to regain control is to power off the computer.

Everytime an edit occurs to terrain function, this happens. I sent a report for this as this was not an issue in 7.21. 7.21 is the best version at the moment in so far as being stable.

 Hi:

Happy to read your reply.  I was beginning  to think that I had ventured into the twilight zone since no one seemed to be either using the Mac with Vue or willing to commment.

Over the years, we purchased each newly released version of the program with the hope that the Mac issues had been resolved but, on each occassion, we have been sorely disappointed.

 I am sorry to hear about your difficulties with the software but it appears that you have noticed at least one of the issues that we have come across with 7.5 xstream ... editing.  I will say, however, that the stand-alone version of 7.5 is somewhat more stable on the Intel/Mac than the xstream plugin but still not worth the bother since our only potential use for the software is from within C4d.

We were beginning to wonder if anyone had actually tested this software before it was released?  A beta tester could not have possibly missed the issues with Mac xstream and C4d given their frequency and the fact that they are right on the surface and require no in depth use of the program's specifics.

Anyway, we have retired the software to the dusty archives.  If and when the developer decides to,or is able to, resolve the Mac issues, we will re-address the introduction of the software into our commercial production endeavors but for now it remains more of a pain than an asset.

Quote -  Hi:

Happy to read your reply.  I was beginning  to think that I had ventured into the twilight zone since no one seemed to be either using the Mac with Vue or willing to commment.

Over the years, we purchased each newly released version of the program with the hope that the Mac issues had been resolved but, on each occassion, we have been sorely disappointed.

 I am sorry to hear about your difficulties with the software but it appears that you have noticed at least one of the issues that we have come across with 7.5 xstream ... editing.  I will say, however, that the stand-alone version of 7.5 is somewhat more stable on the Intel/Mac than the xstream plugin but still not worth the bother since our only potential use for the software is from within C4d.

We were beginning to wonder if anyone had actually tested this software before it was released?  A beta tester could not have possibly missed the issues with Mac xstream and C4d given their frequency and the fact that they are right on the surface and require no in depth use of the program's specifics.

Anyway, we have retired the software to the dusty archives.  If and when the developer decides to,or is able to, resolve the Mac issues, we will re-address the introduction of the software into our commercial production endeavors but for now it remains more of a pain than an asset.

Hello Bishop,

I have read your message.  There are issues with this new release both 7.5 and 7.4.  I remember when I got version 6 - it took a long time before that one reached a level of stableness.  Version 7 was not bad and 7.21 was very usable.  Unfortunately, I cannot downgrade to 7.21 because it is no longer available on E-on's site.  I hope to be able to have access to it again, I will forgo 7.4 until these issues are resolve and a more stable version of 7.4 is released.  I had wanted to upgrade to 7.5 but will not and will wait and see how 8 looks.  Hopefully it will be more stable.

In support of E-On, I would like to point out that also other applications, like Hexagon, work well with Windows and, at the same time, are plagued by bugs on Macs.

I am starting to think that creating portable advanced graphic applications for Windows and Macs from a common code base is "quite complex".

I understand that this is no relief for Mac users here.

Sorry...

Quote - In support of E-On, I would like to point out that also other applications, like Hexagon, work well with Windows and, at the same time, are plagued by bugs on Macs.

I am starting to think that creating portable advanced graphic applications for Windows and Macs from a common code base is "quite complex".

I understand that this is no relief for Mac users here.

Sorry...

The "code base" is quite different between the two platforms and the problem stems typically from programmers not knowing how to code properly for it and not having the resources to do so. All NEW programs for the Mac OS should be 64 bit and written in Apple "CoCoa" language. Developers have known for awhile about "CoCoa" and yet it was not until Apple pulled the plug on the old codes they forced developers to comply.

It takes a large company like Adobe, which now has a full team of programmers and help from some Apple people working on Photoshop CS5 64 bit which had to be re-written from the ground up for "CoCoa" (see the Adobe press announcements and blog for details). Few 3D/Art companies have the resources Adobe does to dish out, which is why the Mac OS seems to lag behind the curve.

Other companies don't have that kind of issue at this time and have written in CoCoa. The C4D and Modo programs are well supported and should be how others like Vue are done. You can tell C4D programmers know their coding and I have spoken with Modo and was impressed with them too. It is unfortunate Vue/e-on does not seem to have that support team in place like the others.

The only real hope is the re-write it like Adobe is for true "CoCoa" and go from there. In the mean time you can use it like I am in Boot Camp Windows 7 RC or for smaller projects under Mac OS.