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Subject: July Monthly Challenge - Voting Thread is OPEN!!! VOTE HERE !


TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 31 July 2009 at 5:19 AM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 10:26 AM
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Voting- Voting will take/continue for 3 days (in the Bryce Forum), unless otherwise noted and cease at 12 Midnight Renderosity Time on the Last Day of voting.

  • Any Renderosity member may vote, whether they have entered the Challenge or not.

  • Members cannot vote for themselves.

  • 3-2-1 Voting System *

     * View all entries before voting.

     * Each voter will decide on 3 entries they personally like the best.

     * Give 3 points to your most favorite. 2 points to your next, and 1 point to your final favorite.

 Votes should be posted like this;

    MemberOne - 3 points

    MemberTwo - 2 Points

    MemberThree - 1 Point

     * 3 pictures, 3 point votes, no more, no less. Anything different cannot be counted as point votes.

HMs can be added if you wish.

-  After voting is completed, the votes will be tallied, and the Winners announced in the Bryce Forum.

  • The Winners will be given an award image they may use on their personal site, or however they see fit.

  • In the case of any ties, the members will share the placements.

  • The First Place Winner(s), will then choose  the next months theme. 

Good luck to all the entries!

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Fri, 31 July 2009 at 7:44 PM · edited Fri, 31 July 2009 at 7:45 PM

 You gonna post a link man...I've locked the door on my way out.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dan whiteside ( ) posted Sat, 01 August 2009 at 12:34 PM · edited Sat, 01 August 2009 at 12:35 PM

Attached Link: Link to entries

Didn't even get close to finishing my entry :blushing:

rj001 #1 - 3 pnts
rashadcarter #7 - 2 pnts
c-ram #6 - 1 pnt

HM - boekenwuurm


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Sat, 01 August 2009 at 1:46 PM

I wasn't able to enter the challenge but i can still vote.

rj001- 3points.    Fun and full of whimzy.

rashadcarter - 2 points.  Great as always. Good lighting

boekenwuurm - 1 Point. I just liked it over all.

HM to c-ram and zorzim. Both well rendered. 


Thandaluz ( ) posted Sat, 01 August 2009 at 7:23 PM

c-ram #6 - 3 points
rashadcarter #7 - 2 points
rj001 #1 - 1 points

Congratulations for all


Ang25 ( ) posted Sat, 01 August 2009 at 8:19 PM

c-ram  -  3 pts
rj001    - 2pts
Zorzim - 1 pts


adbc ( ) posted Sun, 02 August 2009 at 3:25 AM

rashadcarter : 3 points
zorzim             : 2 points
c-ram              : 1 point


bobbystahr ( ) posted Sun, 02 August 2009 at 8:13 AM

 1.  Entry #6  c-ram 
 2. Entry #1   rj001
 3. Entry #3  zorzim

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


rashadcarter ( ) posted Sun, 02 August 2009 at 1:40 PM · edited Sun, 02 August 2009 at 1:41 PM

Huge thanks to all who participated in this theme. The theme was much cooler than I at first realized.

Just to explain quickly so that no one gets annoyed, I do not like to vote without offering feedback. Feedback means much more than a vote any day if you ask me. Feedback helps us understand what is behind the votes, and helps us to improve as artists overall.

rj001 - 3 points /  I like this render because it requires no explaination. Lots of character and whim as others have said. Very good realization of the current theme. This is not the most highly technically advanced render, nor does it need to be, for you are telling a clear story. Love the posing, love the thrust effects, love this render!!!!!!!!!!

From here it gets more challenging to decide.

Zorzim- 2 points / Very effective lighitng and superb material on the elephant. Superb mood establishment. This render displays a good deal of subtle mastery and is very proficient technically. I also think that in a day and age of everyone thinking they know everything, it is wise to remind us that no matter how good our intentions, we will never fully understand everything so we must keep an open mind!!!

Now the really hard part

C-Ram - 1 point / that scene is sickeningly good! Very Very Very realistic. You are a wise Brycer, as you know well that reflections are one of Bryce's strongest suits in terms of realistic renders. Modeling is incredible and seems very accurate. The chosen colors are amazing to say the least. I highly respect your keen eye for realism. I see a flaw in the scaling, either the board is too large or the grass is scaled far too small, I rather think the grass is the problem. Also, not really sure I get an outdoor feeling from this hdri. I often caution that not all hdri are right for all situations. Sadly, the hdris that provide the best reflections information often produce the least favorable light distribution. However my issue here is not light distirubution, but the color tints of the hdri. The blue feels like sky influence which is just right, but where is the bright warmer orange light coming from in an outdoor scene with blue sky all around?  Feels more like an indoor/ outdoor situation, like as a deck. Maybe a deck is the feeling you were after? For me the orange is just not as effective as it should be, far too intense compared to the blue. There are some real problems with the way Bryce interprets IBL colors, so I do not blame you one bit for the inaccuracies of Bryce IBL! The floor tiles look like they belong fully indoors on a kitchen floor, not outdoors on a deck so the grass really seems odd. But still, undeniable as amazing overall.

Which brings me to the honourables.

Boekenwuurm / Again this is another render that requires no explaination. Teamwork is obvious here and the cause of saving the cat is certainly worthy. Lighting is very effective, I like the IBL TA combo here. In some places I feel the image is overexposed, such as on the plants or trees. These effects can be challenging to coordinate. My suggestion is to remember that IBL provides alot of indirect light via the diffusion channel, very different than the way TA does it with super blurred reflection. IBL causes banding and does not bleed colors, TA bleeds colors but with noise, weird geometry faceting,and the reflection process of TA is too obvious to be believed on its own as TA renders often look visibly wet. So combining diffuse (dry looking) IBL with ultra blurred reflection as TA (wet looking) , they can fix each others problems very nicely. But you must decide in a given scene which of these effects is the main indirect, and which is the supplemental indirect . Seems to me you would need to lower the intensity of one of these indirect effects. The strong sunlight you used seems just right to me.

Pugster56 / I see great potential with this render. To improve requires that you play around with the facial expression  and eye focus of Bluey seated in the chair, as of now he seems to be in a different world, not fully connected to the rest of the scene. Your lighting is off to a good start, you were wise not to bake the scene in awful ambient glow. Deep shadows are better than ambient glow if you ask me, so I agree with the lighting so far. Now play around with placing a few weak radials around the scene to fix the shadows without resorting to ugly ambient glow. Really like the guy bent over, he seems fully connected to the scene.

adbc / The work put into the atmospherics is noteworthy. I cannot get such effects. The animals are incredible. Lots of good stuff here. For me the render lacks a certain depth or should I say dimension, seems rather "safe" and lacks the necessary shadows. On cloudy days the shadows would be very soft and directly underneath the characters. but still there is my point. Along with lines and curves, both light and shadow are required to create a 3d impression on a 2d surface such as a computer monitor, people often overlook the importance of shadows as a nuissance. I would turn off ambient glow for all materials and experiment instead with other means of indirect light that are not so uniform and 2 dimensional as ambient glow. Generally, even though the material libraries tend to mislead newer Bryce users, ambient glow is not a good thing and should never be used for room temperture objects. Ambient glow does not cast shadows so it leads to flateness in renders, making ambient glowing object appear thermal and hot like coals on a fire. Using a few weak and carefully placed or dispersed radials that do cast shadows as well as light does the job much more realistically, the shadows from multiple angles helps carve out the model geometry in a manner that looks 3d. The sky setting is my favorite here, it really sets the mood and creates a seamless progression from ground to sky, very very good indeed.

Thanks again to all who participated!!!!!!!


PeterRama ( ) posted Sun, 02 August 2009 at 7:26 PM
  1.  Entry #6  c-ram 
     2. Entry #1  rj001
     3. Entry #3  Boekenwuurm

"If at first you don't succeed, quit skydiving..."


rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 03 August 2009 at 2:09 AM

could have had more entries,
c-ram - 3points; insane modelling.
zorzim - 2 points; interesting story.
boekenwuurm - 1point

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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Pugster56 ( ) posted Mon, 03 August 2009 at 10:21 AM · edited Mon, 03 August 2009 at 10:26 AM

To **rashadcarter....thanks for your welcome comments!! I don't have enough time to really devote to honing my skills as I would like! Work, work, work!! I see what you mean about the Bluey character. I'll have to slow down next time!! Thanks again!!

#2** boekenwuurm =  3 points
#7 rashadcarter    =  2 points
#1 rj001                  =  1 point


adbc ( ) posted Tue, 04 August 2009 at 2:31 AM

To rashadcarter :
Thank you so much for your comment. This is what I'm really after because I'm beginning with Bryce and want to improve my skills, although it's just for fun and the contests are giving me enough motivation to start but also to finish and make it acceptable to me to enter it.


TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 04 August 2009 at 5:01 AM
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Voting is closed!

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


dhama ( ) posted Wed, 05 August 2009 at 4:27 AM

Only 6 entries? :ohmy:


boekenwuurm ( ) posted Wed, 05 August 2009 at 12:24 PM · edited Wed, 05 August 2009 at 12:28 PM

:glare:, I knew I had to something do this begining of the month. To late for voting.

Thanks for al the votes and congrats to the winners!


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