Please add a Minimize button to the Render Status window.

I like watching my renders in progress, but the Render Status window sits there with its Cancel button hanging out. One mis-touch of the Enter button and my render is dead. I can minimize the Render Status window from the Windows Task Manager, but it is inconvenient.

[Restart on renders would be nice as well, someday.]

Whichway

Give me back the normal library menu... the new one doesn't yp date quick enough... tooo 

I second the library motion. The tiny thumbnails are ridiculous and impossible for me to see--- I have to mouse over each and every thumb to see what is what. This completely destroys my ability to 'browse' and compare items to see which one I want to use. I have to have another app open (P3dO) just to see what is in the library---and that means I have to 'follow' the Poser library with another application. That's just ridiculous. It's impossible to see everything at a glance. As it is, as a content creator I've been making large thumbnails so I can actually see what I'm looking at---and they come along and blow that completely out of the water. There's a good possibility it's going to be a deal breaker for me---I don't see very well any more and this has made it worse. I'm going to just stick with Poser 7 Pro. I've been faithful about upgrading. This is the first time I've absolutely hated the upgrade---and it's not just the library, although that and the fact that it can't find most of my textures makes Poser 8 impossible for me to use.

 Well Bagginsbill has already promised an enhancement of the library. And I for one would NOT like to go back to the old version. This is so much more convenient. No more swapping between several runtimes and going up and down searching for somthing. Here everything IS on the same list. That alone is a HUGE improvement IMO. Plus the fact that it's faster.

I agree about the thumbnails being too small but I can live with them because I know they'll be addressed in the first SR, if not sooner as a hotfix.

But yes, a minimize on the Render Status would be nice :) - even hitting the spacebar will kill your render, and THAT is placed right where you'd put your hand down >_< - not to mention the fact that cats have an unerring ability to always put their paws on the ONE button on a keyboard that Should Not Be Touched G

feature request ;

In Parameters Palette;
When in a parameter folder, say the head, you right click, and push restore; it restores the whole figure. Not only the changed head parameters.
You work on the arms, legs, breasts, and finally you want to make a head but screw up.
it would be nice to only restore the head parameters back to 0.000, but maintain the other adjustments made before in the other folders, like arms and legs.

I have not yet really played with P8 (except of  a quick look) since it took almost 2 hours to download the core program. I would like to some refinement in the library also. I do like the search option but it took close to 5 minutes to pull up my P6 runtime and almost as long to pull up my freebie runtime.

If a parameter is NOT 0.000 to automatically change its color.

Example in attach jpg.

The new models come with a lot of morphs and that is great but one could quickly loose track of all the adjustments.
had this idea already from P7.

So proposal:
If parameter is not 0.000 it should automatically change color.
(as the conditional formatting option in EXEL)

This gives a quick way to follow, and find the changed parameters.

 feature request ;

In Parameters Palette;
When in a parameter folder, say the head, you right click, and push restore; it restores the whole figure. Not only the changed head parameters.
You work on the arms, legs, breasts, and finally you want to make a head but screw up.
it would be nice to only restore the head parameters back to 0.000, but maintain the other adjustments made before in the other folders, like arms and legs. <<

If I'm reading you right, all you have to do is select the head, and then choose Edit > Restore > Element.

that is indeed another way, so the possiblity is build in.

It could be implemented from a selection in the parameters palette also.
This would give you more options.

To only restore the parameters from that folder. Without touching the changes done with the full body morphs that could affect the same element.

And now for something purely cosmetic---can we have a way to change that hideous UI color? It's just awful. I've changed my UI background ever since I had to hack it in Poser 5. It would be nice to have that option again. I personally prefer a nice steel blue-grey or deep forest green. :laugh:

Quote - Proposal:

If a parameter is NOT 0.000 to automatically change its color.

That would be really nice indeed!
Or, if not the dial color (that might be hard to code), at least the value (like having "0.00" written in a subdued color and any other values in normal color).

Quote - Give me back the normal library menu... the new one doesn't yp date quick enough... tooo 

Hmm. Could you be more specific about what you mean by update quick enough?

I'm asking because the key thing about this library (despite whatever else is wrong) is that is opens and is ready to work even with 500 GB runtimes.

Is it drawing slowly?

Is it opening folders slowly?

Is it populating thumbnails slowly?

Are the item counts on folders filling slowly?

The library is now incredibly multi-threaded. It is often doing over 40 things at once scanning and populating things in the background. Months of work went into making sure it is the fastest library anybody has every seen. Compared to P7, this GUI loads instantly with 100GB runtimes, versus 5 minutes. Compared to P7, this GUI can handle 1000 GB runtimes, while P7 would just immediately crash.

The #1, by FAR, request from the user community was to deal with gigantic runtimes, find and show content FAST, navigate FAST. Almost everybody using it says it is fast.

I really would like to know which of the above is happening. And you should open a ticket with SM. There are many people with corrupted Flash players, out of date Flash players, etc. Maybe this is the problem.

The thumbs will be bigger, and there will be more options coming.

Quote - > Quote - Proposal:

If a parameter is NOT 0.000 to automatically change its color.

That would be really nice indeed!
Or, if not the dial color (that might be hard to code), at least the value (like having "0.00" written in a subdued color and any other values in normal color).

Even better, in addition, a button you push to hide all the ones at zero would be something I want. Once I've decided which to use, I dont' need to see the rest.

Yes, that would be the radical solution; But a highlight would already be nice, just for quick checking if there isn't a leftover morph hiding somewhere (not that you couldn't check by hiding of course).

Request for SP1: allow linking of runtime folders which are named something other than "runtime."

My Poser 6 runtime is set up on a separate drive, in a directory named "P6 Runtime."  When I try to link to that runtime in Poser 8, it returns an error saying "That folder doesn't seem to be a runtime folder.  Choose a new runtime folder to add."  

When I change the directory name from "P6 Runtime" to just "Runtime" it allows the link.  The problem is that I have tons of texture references and other absolute links which depend on the directory being named "P6 Runtime."  Now when I load a figure or prop with an absolute reference it says it can't find the texture.

I can change the name to "Runtime" and then run CorrectReferencePro II to change all the references, but it doesn't seem like I should have to.

Any chance we could rotate the parameter dials with the mouse wheel (would have to click to select first)...?

Quote - Request for SP1: allow linking of runtime folders which are named something other than "runtime."

Did you try to make a shortcut of "P6 runtime", named just "runtime", and mount this shortcut in P8?

Glad you guys like the idea.
Indeed, to color the dial is optional.
But I would go to the first master subfolder, as shown in the pic.

The change of color "or another highlight"; would be a welcome inovation.

The hide button, is a good alternative, but you loose the overview af the other possibilities.
And I like to keep all my options open  ;-) ; Open minded hé ;-)

Hope SM reads this one ( so they know I am not alone here)

Quote - And now for something purely cosmetic---can we have a way to change that hideous UI color? It's just awful. I've changed my UI background ever since I had to hack it in Poser 5. It would be nice to have that option again. I personally prefer a nice steel blue-grey or deep forest green. :laugh:

Hi, it's Ken from the Poser newsgroup. I asked this question on your behalf here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2778338&page=11
According to pjz99 you have to recolour the PSD files.

Bit late I guess now but the figure drop down list could do with some work. Would be much better if you could group and sort it and, instead of being one huge list, it was a conventional scroll box.

Also, take the cameras and lights off the other drop down and put them on their own lists and put the selected camera view on the bar as well.

Quote - > Quote - Request for SP1: allow linking of runtime folders which are named something other than "runtime."

Did you try to make a shortcut of "P6 runtime", named just "runtime", and mount this shortcut in P8?

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm afraid I don't see a way to make that work though.  Poser wants to link to a folder.  It doesn't recognize shortcuts.

It just seems really odd that the acceptability of a runtime link would be dependent on the name of the folder.

Request :

Makeup palette with head texture in material room for applying makeup directly inside Poser.

Thank you.

Quote - Bit late I guess now but the figure drop down list could do with some work. Would be much better if you could group and sort it and, instead of being one huge list, it was a conventional scroll box.

Also, take the cameras and lights off the other drop down and put them on their own lists and put the selected camera view on the bar as well.

How about using the hierarchy editor? ;-)

Should also be doable with python scripts now that they integrate nicely into the UI.

I would like a node for the material room with a variable number of input and output channels where one could program the node with Python scripts.

LMK

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Request for SP1: allow linking of runtime folders which are named something other than "runtime."

It just seems really odd that the acceptability of a runtime link would be dependent on the name of the folder.

No, it's logical to do that. Nearly all Poser content has relative references starting with ":runtime:" and Poser will have a hard time finding the right file if you don't have a "runtime" folder, because all references are wrong then...

Make DeltaAddDelta work again PLEASE :crying: 

I would like to have the option of changing the individual folder icons in the library. perhaps something that overlays the folder, so you can tell it is a folder but it has something distinct on it.

or at the very least, a way to change their color.

I would also like a way to "roll" up or minimize (to a bar or button) the library and hierarchy.
This way i could leave them docked in the same column and minimize the one i wasn't using.
In p7 i had the parameters, library and hierarchy stacked so you could always see at least a corner of them, this way i could bring the one i needed to front and save some screens space.... being on a laptop doesn't give much flexibility on space.

oh, i nearly forgot the one thing i ask for over and over.

I want a button that will "open containing folder"

that is to say it will launch Windows explorer in the folder of the current item so i can manage my files with less time tracing down their location.

When in the material room using a 2D image node, I would like the option to browse from last location OR from the location of the presently installed image.

LMK

Quote - Make DeltaAddDelta work again PLEASE :crying: 

Huh? I have a bazillion things that use deltaAdd. What's not working? Everything I've tested has worked as expected.

The Dependent Parameter editor works with them too even it it's a bit wonky creating new DeltaAdds. You can edit control ratios easily inside Poser now.

The new poser library is having problems with upper case extensions, such as .PZ2 instead of .pz2.  It could appear to not be reading Deltas but in fact is not reading the file at all.  It's still a problem regardless. :)

 Well, as long as we're wishing... I wish someone would stop that silly Parameters dials from switching from "Parameters" to "Properties" when you turn the IK off. What the hell is that for, anyway?

Netherworks - Just to note, that is usually an OS issue. Windows has always been Preserve Case/Ignore Case. Linux and Mac, I  suppose since it's really Linux, Preserve Case/Respect Case. That means that on Windows, when Poser asks for a file, any combination of caps will match, while on the other two, the match must be exact. Windows out votes the other two put together, I'm afraid, by which I mean that if most developers use Windows, they won't see the problem.

Whichway

Is there a shortcut editor in P8, or any way to edit those?

I'd like to put a shortcut to the Aux camera, a long-time wish...

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Request for SP1: allow linking of runtime folders which are named something other than "runtime."

Did you try to make a shortcut of "P6 runtime", named just "runtime", and mount this shortcut in P8?

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm afraid I don't see a way to make that work though.  Poser wants to link to a folder.  It doesn't recognize shortcuts.

It just seems really odd that the acceptability of a runtime link would be dependent on the name of the folder.

You don't select the "Runtime" you select the folder that contains it. I'm confused by what you're saying. For example, to attach all the content in

c:FooBarRuntime...

You select c:FooBar and the GUI says this is Bar. If you're saying you have:

...P6 RuntimeRuntime

and you're choosing to add P6 Runtime, then it should work. However, if P6 Runtime does not contain a RuntimeLibraries folder it should not work.

An Area Render cursor that is not the same as the default Arrow. When trying to pick up to the edge of the frame, I keep undocking the preview window instead of selecting the render area. Thanks.

Whichway

Please... please... please... add the abilty to use the mouse scroll wheel to ALL menus..!!!

I know it works in the Hierarchy panel, etc. But there are many menus where it it doesn't work and never worked in previous versions.

Such menus as.... Body Parts list and Materials list which are always really long lists. It is a pain having to click on the little arrow at the bottom and top of the list all the time to find what you need in the menu. it would be so much easier with the mousies scroll wheel and keep it consistant with those menus and lists that do work.

Quote - An Area Render cursor that is not the same as the default Arrow. When trying to pick up to the edge of the frame, I keep undocking the preview window instead of selecting the render area. Thanks.

Whichway

 
Vaild suggestion, but in the meantime have you tried unselecting Drag-Docking Enabled.. for your Preview window..?

Quote - > Quote - Give me back the normal library menu... the new one doesn't yp date quick enough... tooo 

Hmm. Could you be more specific about what you mean by update quick enough?

I'm asking because the key thing about this library (despite whatever else is wrong) is that is opens and is ready to work even with 500 GB runtimes.

Is it drawing slowly?

Is it opening folders slowly?

Is it populating thumbnails slowly?

Are the item counts on folders filling slowly?

My personal experience with this is thet the library count fills very very slowly.. so that I have to walk away and fill my tea cup in order to have all the items appear, that being said.. once it does find all of the items I find it browses much fast, loads much faster and other then the fact that I had to manually change ALOT of pose files to the lowercase pz2 extension to have them read I love it!

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Pleeeease** make the small (very small) square options button on the UI pallettes for docking, undocking, etc., a little larger... or the area of sensitivity around them larger.

Personally... I find them very difficult to select. It takes ages to find the exact spot to open the options.

Quote - Is there a shortcut editor in P8, or any way to edit those?

I'd like to put a shortcut to the Aux camera, a long-time wish...

you can edit your Poser 8RuntimeuiPoser.xrc just like in P7

Quote - you can edit your Poser 8RuntimeuiPoser.xrc just like in P7

I set up my Aux camera to use Ctrl-(period), since that particular combo seems to be unclaimed.

Quote - My personal experience with this is thet the library count fills very very slowly.. so that I have to walk away and fill my tea cup in order to have all the items appear

That's not normal. Integrating a 70 GB runtime takes on mine (old Athlon XP 4000) a couple seconds. Time to take a sip of tea, but not much more.

Quote - > Quote - Is there a shortcut editor in P8, or any way to edit those?

I'd like to put a shortcut to the Aux camera, a long-time wish...

you can edit your Poser 8RuntimeuiPoser.xrc just like in P7

See, I learned yet another thing today! Thanks a lot!

Quote - I set up my Aux camera to use Ctrl-(period), since that particular combo seems to be unclaimed.

I plan to reclaim the shortcut given to that useless fly-around camera. I really wonder who uses it often enough to need a specific shortcut...

I said this in another thread, but:

The ability for Poser's memory to distinguish between import image folders (i.e. for adding/changing textures in the material room) and export image folders (i.e. where you last saved a render). It's a real PITA to export a render to the directory you want, then go in the material room and have to browse away from that folder and find the materials folder in your runtime, and then face the prospect again next time you export.

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My personal experience with this is thet the library count fills very very slowly.. so that I have to walk away and fill my tea cup in order to have all the items appear, that being said.. once it does find all of the items I find it browses much fast, loads much faster and other then the fact that I had to manually change ALOT of pose files to the lowercase pz2 extension to have them read I love it!

If you have several thousand things in a folder, that would be the OS making it slow. If you have only a few dozen in any given folder, then there could be something needs fixing.

The GUI should be loading items about as fast as it is possible to read your hard disk.

The thing is that if you have external runtimes on network drives, or slow external hard drives, and you have a lot of files, there is no way to read them faster than the OS can read them, period, and maybe they are just slow all by themselves.

For example, when I open one of my longer folders in Windows Explorer, it can take a half a second to show it, even though there are only about 100 files in there, the first time I open it. That delay is the OS going out to actually read my disk. The second time, its instantaneous.

Now suppose you have your main runtime and ten external runtimes. There are 9 categories in each, so that is 90 folders that need scanning, minimum. In addition, if you left any nested folders open, they are also scanned on startup. So typically you have 100 folders that have to be scanned. That could easily take 30 seconds if your disk drive is normal, and 3 minutes if your disk drive is slow. That is what used to keep Poser startup from being quick. At least, now, it happens in the background, and you don't have to wait.

Do you have 10,000 RPM SCSI drives or 7200 RPM SATA drives or 5400 RPM IDE drives? I just went from fast to slow by an order of magnitude listing those technologies. When did you buy your disk drives. If they are external, how are they connected. (If you say USB, well there's your problem.)

Two library feature requests:

1.Possibility to hide/show the library easily (like on old Poser), without going through the whole "click tiny little square, select close" - "Window/library" routine. An one-click solution. (Or does that exist already?)

1. Ability to make the library as narrow as possible, without having the right hand buttons/tabs go off screen. See pic below. You note the "close" square is there in both cases, I didn't crop, Poser did.

Quote - Two library feature requests:

1.Possibility to hide/show the library easily (like on old Poser), without going through the whole "click tiny little square, select close" - "Window/library" routine. An one-click solution. (Or does that exist already?)

Ctrl-Shift-B  /  Cmd-Shift-B ?

It really pays to learn the Poser keyboard shortcuts. So much easier than using the menus or finding those small clickable areas with the mouse.

(edit) on my Mac, there is also a tiny Close window button, top left of the Library screen. But only if it is not docked.

Quote - Ctrl-Shift-B  /  Cmd-Shift-B ?

Thanks a lot; I suspected it might be a RTFM issue, but I didn't locate the Quick Reference Card the manual mentions. Where would that be?
The only PDFs I have is the manual, the Python manual and a file named "freeimage-license"...  :-(

Quote - (edit) on my Mac, there is also a tiny Close window button, top left of the Library screen. But only if it is not docked.

When it's docked you need to click once, wait for the pop up menu, and there select "close". Too slow/tedious if you do this 5 times a minute...