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Subject: August 2009 Bryce Monthly Challenge - Aviation - Official Thread.


TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 05 August 2009 at 10:14 AM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 9:31 AM
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C-Ram has laid down the gauntlett for the next challenge.

Here is the next theme for August Bryce Challenge : Aviation

The rules

  1. Any style or genre but ibl renders are welcome.

  2. You can use past, present or future aircraft (from your imagination).

  3. Anything goes as far as import models, mesh etc...

4)Use postwork sparingly. A scene should not rely entirely on postwork in order to be effective.

just tell me if this challenge can rule and if you have any question, i will answer with pleasure!

Best regards
c-r@m.

Post your comments and WIPS here.

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benney ( ) posted Wed, 05 August 2009 at 10:59 AM

Aviation is one my favourite themes so you can count me in (fingers crossed)


zorzim ( ) posted Sun, 09 August 2009 at 1:24 PM

The current challenge is just too cool...

When I heard of this subject, I began immediately to swirl around with concepts and sketches in mind...
A couple of movies popped out in mind; "the right stuff" on test pilots, directed by Philip Kaufman some time ago, and the 1982 blockbuster movie "Firefox".  I like very much the design of the stealth aircraft seen in ... "Stealth"

I definely will caarry on something out of these threads...
At first I just wanted to picture a modern dogfight with missile fired and smoke and fireballs... but then I got caught with peaceful considerations... maybe I should have opted for something like; a resignation letter on an high officer desk , and out of the windows you see a grounded bomber...  but this was all the way too peaceful even for me, so I think I' ll work on a different theme.

On the movie The right stuff" I have seen Chuck Yaeger story (a NASA test pilot) , and been struck by his flight high altitude/high speed on a F 104 Starfighter, ending up with stress failure on plane and he being jettisoned out and parachuting down. Hell, this is something I should do... On a side note I must add F 104 were used by the Italian Air Force til not much ago (yes, I am Italian) and they were nicknamed "flying coffins" by the pilots cause their extremely low portancy.

If you admire test pilots, those at NASA deserve our maximum respect. If you want to read detailed stories about the Apollo team test pilots you should read Oriana Fallaci "If the Sun Dies"

Can I insert a bit of salt in the thread ... ?

What's your favourite aircraft !!!!

I loved that aborted YF 23 project, that plane looked way much cooler than the F 22 Raptor series...

But I have a fascination for the russian  Sukhoi  SU 27.
Here, have a look at some pic of it at their site:

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/gallery/?gallery_id=56&cur_gallery_id=56

And I just found a rather pretty SU 27 3d model in a Taschen CD I had... so I have the chance to remap it and refurbish it for the task....

Well, people, what's your fav plane anyway... ?


c-ram ( ) posted Sun, 09 August 2009 at 1:57 PM

Zorzim,

You have a lot of choise with aircrafts models. I agree with you, the Sukkoï 27 is a wonderful plane and it will be nice to see a composition with it!! just have a look to my gallery, by the past, i have work on the fabulous SU47 Berkut.

I'm just about starting to work on a mirage F1 "TC" (tacticle class) for the challenge..

Regards


TheBryster ( ) posted Sun, 09 August 2009 at 2:13 PM
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Great to see this thread come alive at last.

I seem to remember that the Lockheed Starfighter was called the 'WidowMaker'.

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PeterRama ( ) posted Mon, 10 August 2009 at 1:18 PM

Quote - Great to see this thread come alive at last.

I seem to remember that the Lockheed Starfighter was called the 'WidowMaker'.

Yes it was. That was a result of the aircraft's poor handling characteristics which caused it to impact into the side mountains on a regular basis. 

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Pugster56 ( ) posted Tue, 11 August 2009 at 5:56 AM

Great theme, but where do we upload?  When I go to the Challenge Page, it loads to last Months Challenge.  Thanks!!


TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 11 August 2009 at 8:48 AM
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@ Pugster56:  I'll set up the upload page shortly. It doesn't pay to rush these thing. You'll see an announcement in red text under the Bryce Page banner.

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Pugster56 ( ) posted Tue, 11 August 2009 at 2:09 PM

Thanks!! Sorry, not trying to rush!!


AeroJett ( ) posted Wed, 12 August 2009 at 7:30 PM

 Hopefully I can get an entry done -- if Bryce doesn't crash when I try to save again >.<


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 13 August 2009 at 6:28 AM
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AeroJett: Always save your work as a seperate file, like this:

Bryce scene1.BR6
Bryce scene2.BR6
Bryce scene3.BR6  etc.

This way means if your latest crashes you can always go one step back and recover.

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zorzim ( ) posted Thu, 13 August 2009 at 11:49 AM

Always done that, because I hate losing my works !
Anyway Bryce saves like this automatically, if you end  the namefile with a number. Example; if you save a "namefile_1.br6" if you save again Bryce will write another file named "namefile_2.br6" on its own.
At times I find this rather annoying, and I do prefer save subsequent files like this:
"namefile_one.br6"... "namefile_two.br6" and so on.


AeroJett ( ) posted Thu, 13 August 2009 at 2:18 PM

 The problem seems not to be saving copies as I go, I've done that before, but that whenever I have too many polygons Bryce crashes when I try to save. I figure it just has to do with processing power (I use a Mac Mini;) at times I've just had to render an image before trying saving so I only risk crashing after I've got what I need...


zorzim ( ) posted Fri, 14 August 2009 at 1:53 AM

to AeroJett

I know there is a file size restriction in Bryce, that is you can't save more than 2 Gb file, otherwise it will crash. Rashadcarter, a friend here, advice is to keep open the task manager windows so to keep under control the RAM usage..
The rule I know if you go say 1.4 Gb its risky to save.
One possible solution is to use polygon reducing tecnique.
I use either "quem loss " plugin in Lightwave modeler or the "decimator" plugin in Zbrush.


AeroJett ( ) posted Fri, 14 August 2009 at 3:19 PM

 I'll try that, thanks!


AeroJett ( ) posted Fri, 14 August 2009 at 6:16 PM

Sorry about posting a WIP in the wrong place earlier, Bryster, I forgot the rules .  Just to make sure, is this the forum I can post it in?


TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 14 August 2009 at 6:46 PM
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AeroJett. You CAN post wips here.

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AeroJett ( ) posted Fri, 14 August 2009 at 7:25 PM

file_437061.jpg

 Allrighty, here it is so far; postwork involved adding lens flare, the moons from a photo, a slight glow at each exhaust, the three stars near the top, and, of course, the border. I wonder if this is an acceptable amount of postwork for this particular contest or not. So, opinions, criticisms, soul-crushing remarks (![](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/art/emoticons/lol.gif)) anyone?


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Sat, 15 August 2009 at 3:52 PM

Wow! I need to step on it. This looks great AeroJett.


AeroJett ( ) posted Sat, 15 August 2009 at 5:07 PM

 Thanks! I may or may not keep the larger moon, as it seems to draw my attention away from the planes too much. We'll see...


TheBryster ( ) posted Sun, 16 August 2009 at 3:23 PM
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Challenge Entry Page is up and running!!!!

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dhama ( ) posted Mon, 17 August 2009 at 11:41 AM

Why wasn't the other thread (the locked thread) merged with this one?


TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 17 August 2009 at 3:14 PM · edited Mon, 17 August 2009 at 3:17 PM
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Simple. Don't know how and I didn't want to remove it because it's damn good.
So this is the best I can do, with apologies to RJ001.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 17 August 2009 at 3:16 PM
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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:36 pm

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Here we go guys, i'm on holiday at the moment but you have to be faithful to Bryce no matter what hahah (actually its a rainy day);
this is the first image that came to mind when i read the challenge thread. i hope its suitable.
again i have gone for a Bryce render. to show what our little programme can do. and as i have been having some success with clouds and mist lately, and have found ways to keep volumetric render times low. so i went for it - and heres a few behind the scenes shots.


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:37 pm

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firstly i built some cornfields in the terrain editor


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:38 pm

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then textured and added to a ground plain, with an edge of Bryce, out of the box shrubbery


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:43 pm

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rinsed and repeated, then built a crop duster plane (nothing specific just built from imagination) placed it and then added the smoke trail spheres


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:45 pm
finished off with volumetric clouds and a couple of cloud planes, and thats me ready to upload - just waiting for the entry page now:)


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:50 pm
 So, rj, just what is the secret to reasonable volumetric rendering times then...care to share?.. ...


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 5:58 pm
its all in the wrist action,
i'll run  up something when i'm back 'ome


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  Posted Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:46 pm
Quote - "its all in the wrist action,
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LOL...and thanks.. ...


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  Posted Thu, Aug 13, 2009 1:13 am
so that's how you do a smoke trail. Been trying to get one done for my last render (Bryce part's finished...at least)...I'll keep this in mind for next time.


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  Posted Thu, Aug 13, 2009 1:26 am
 I like your way of making a field, I might borrow that idea (not for this contest) someday if it's ok :) Back to Top [edit post] [delete post] [delete] [change content advisory] [print] [save

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dhama ( ) posted Mon, 17 August 2009 at 5:27 PM

There is an easier way, but thanks for going to all that trouble. There should be something in your moderator tools, if you have such access....

For future reference, have a word with Admin, as I remember it from when I moderated another forum, it was fairly straight forward, but this is a different style of forum, so not sure.


TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 7:19 AM
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Thanks, Dhama.

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