I don't mean to minimzie the difficulty. If I could get DAZ figures to propagate their scaling, then it would be worthwhile to figure out how to make the cloths fit. Seeing that I do not do annimations, getting the cloths to fit from the angle that I want to render is easier than if the figures had to move.

lmk

phantom3D I  think you are way off base with your accusations. the only scaling problem that the freak has in poser is with clothing, which is a known bug with poser scaling, something that DAZ has publicly stated is the issue something that the makers of poser have always admitted was a problem in poser, and you admit that problem yourself, so why do you insist there is another scaling issue that DAZ is not telling people about? Why all this talk of DAZ doing it wrong, please show us a way that a figure with scaled bodyparts can work properly with conforming clothing in poser.

I'm gonna be gone for awhile maybe a couple of weeks. Just got a commission to do a scale 3D model for a sculpture to be built at the Zhuhai Shizimen Business District, in China. China is building a new city there. Anyway big money for me, I need it. And if the sculpture does get built, a big bonus.

I'm excited! My third piece of work in 3D for the regular world.   :biggrin:  Even you can not bring me down today  wdupre.

So, much as I would like to continue, gotta go.  But when I get back I will put together a movie showing what is actually wrong with the scaling in the Daz figures and hopefully put the boot to all the Daz lies.

Lol!

Coldrake

Congrats phantom! Well deserved, really like the freak style figure you're working on. Good luck.

Congratulations! Send pictures if you can.

LMK

Thanks lkendall, mike1950,

lkendall:  I'm not going to China LOL, I wish.  No I mean I dont have much time, only two weeks to finish it and it's an entire industrial park thing with the sculpture as the center. So, I wont have much time to be hanging out here, or making movies, till I'm done. It's only my third piece so I really want to get it right.

I'll send ya a render or two by Email of the project. Cant share it on line though, yet.

I'm also not the sculpture artist, just doing the 3D piece. But good money.

Cheers see ya all in a few.

OK here's a movie explaining some of the problems with the M4 figure and some work arounds and fixes for you.

It is in 3 parts. I made it very quickly and its not the best, but I dont have time right now to do it over.

I picked up some more work from my last project (amazing how word of mouth gets you work) so am very busy right now. I will try to get back and answer any questions on how to in case someone does not understand how to use these fixes.  Watch in full screen since its a bit blurry, also the sound is slightly ahead of the action.

Cheers,
Mike.

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nice 1, thanx

*"I picked up some more work from my last project (amazing how word of mouth gets you work) so am very busy right now."

phantom3D:

Thanks for the videos, and congratulations on the work!

LMK

Thanks phantom, figured these problems with F4 were something like that.

 Hi Phantom,
nice videos, but it isn't quite a full fix. However it does make the postwork less.
I'm still going to wait for your muscleman brad to come to the MP.
Love esther

Freakin Freak! Aargh, just wanted to add another voice to this, firstly thanks to those who pointed out D3D's copy scaling script, it helps and with that and tweaking morphs on body parts and adding magnets I've managed to fit some clothes to F4 and animate him. Nothing I've tried has stopped Bracers and arm-bands from poking in or through. Arms seem to be particularly problematic. So sleeveless tops or long sleeves with arm parts hidden seems to be the only way.

Has anyone tried re-opening a Freak pz3 after going through all the scaling fun and games? (insert expletives of choice) using Poser 6 the scaling goes all over the place, clothes revert to M4 some of F4's limbs stay Freakish others drop back to M4. Tried saving poses, including body translation and morphs, applied to the existing figure or a fresh one, the results are the same.

The only solution I've found here is to set up animate and render without closing and hope the blighter doesn't crash during render (rendering as a sequence of stills of course)

I do feel however that Daz has misrepresented the situation, they didn't make any attempt in all their sales pitch to mention the problems, they advertised all as Daz & Poser products, they did supply me with Poser versions on my account D/L page which I think would imply that the products are usable in Poser. The fact that they do seem to work on M4 is beside the point when I bought the Freak bundle.

Thanks to phantom3D for the videos I'll watch them when they won't get me sacked!

 Yes, i think it was a bit misleading, and because of that I haven't bought the elite M4.  I don't trust the poser compatibility anymore.
It is a shame because the daz figures are so good that they have developed a kind of mystique about them and quite a fan following.  I used to feel so excited everytime a new one came out.
Other people are starting to make good human figures for poser now though.  there's a new poser female at rdna coming out very soon who looks quite promising.  Brad looks really good, but he's been in the pipeline a long time and who knows what kind of support he will have from vendors or when he will actually appear, but at least it is starting.
I feel sad that daz treated it's loyal customers that way. It was poser that made their figures so popular in the first place. I feel like they are abandoning me.
Love esther

estherau:

exprssnimg at RDNA says that the new female figure, "Eva," will scale properly in Poser. This figure is due out on Friday. A male figure is under consideration (suggestions are apparently welcome).

lmk

 I am going to buy her!!  they posted a pic of her mesh and although I am not a modeller I do own a modelling proggie and I can see that she should be able to have almost any face you could want with a mesh as detailed as that.
Love esther

 tell me - if you got a figure like eva for example, then V4 bones in the setup room into her, would that make her able to wear V4s clothes even more easily?
Love esther

Quote - just got my sticky little mits on the Freak 4 pack, trouble is none of the conforming clothes that come with it work properly, am i doing something wrong?

i have tried loading the figure (with morphs included) then loading the clothes, i have also tried loading the figure setting the desired shape, then adding the clothes, neither work.
any ideas?

Einzy.

The problem with the Freak 4 fits is that the clothing does not have the scale parameters in the clothes. It is not a Poser problem it is the clothing developers that have left out the scale information in the clothing.

That is all I dare say.

Cheers
Randy

OKCRandy:

Can one hack the CR2 of a piece of clothing and add scale information?

lmk