Quote - > Quote - Is anyone having double dials show up on every body part?

You mean the doubled values? The manual (pg 137) says: (7) Dependent Parameter, showing Natural and Driven parameter values.

Thanks for reply Dizzi. I read the parts on the Dependent Parameter but I still don't understand it. Anyway is there a way to turn them off?

Quote - I'm on a Mac (10.4) with P8 SR1.  Now I'm seeing double! Is anyone having double dials show up on every body part?

No your not seeing double, one of the numbers is the dial value, the other is the actual value of the channel after all ERC has been taken into account.

"anyone else having constraint issues in the clothroom? I know its not the cloth because it all works in P6/7/pro. If some of you could try to constrain some cloth and see if it lets you select all you want by hand, that includes subtracting the verts too. It only lets me do the facin cloth and not the backside or if you select ALL it won't let me deselect what I want."

Yep, me too. I can select some vertices (like the lapels of a shirt) but when I spin the camera around to select the rest (like the back of the collar) the lasso is visible but nothing gets selected. So it's not just you :)

Quote - "anyone else having constraint issues in the clothroom? I know its not the cloth because it all works in P6/7/pro. If some of you could try to constrain some cloth and see if it lets you select all you want by hand, that includes subtracting the verts too. It only lets me do the facin cloth and not the backside or if you select ALL it won't let me deselect what I want."

Yep, me too. I can select some vertices (like the lapels of a shirt) but when I spin the camera around to select the rest (like the back of the collar) the lasso is visible but nothing gets selected. So it's not just you :)

There you go. The exact thing with me. So It is a P8 bug. Will have to send in a bug report.

Thanks.

It's a feature, it tells you if they are controlled elsewhere, and what the total is.

Quote - It's a feature, it tells you if they are controlled elsewhere, and what the total is.

Who are you answering and if it's the clothroom, explain more.

He was referring to the double dials mentioned above.

Dohhh!

@Tashar59, sorry was referring to the double dials, missed the second page.

I should keep quite I keep making an ass out of myself, not that it's hard to do mind you.

Nah, It happens quite often. I've done it myself. Slow typer and when I post it's becomes OT to the last few posts.

I've learned to use the quote button a little more often now. LOL.

Quote - It's a feature, it tells you if they are controlled elsewhere, and what the total is.

Thanks for that. I just wish I could disable them. My eyes aren't what they used to be and all the zeros are confusing.

I'm not getting any ebots from this thread even though I've got it marked.

any new news on service realese 2 ? not a problem if there is nothing planed.

but maybe something in december? the material room is still crashing somtimes and there is a big reflection bug with IDL.
in december there should be something right? 

BB's hinted that Sr2 is on the way. other than that shrug

November

 I hope it fixes any issues with external runtimes starting with the word poser.
Love esther

i would love december. but november? even better.

I hope they fix that damn small library scroll bar and fix the library resizing. Takes up way to much room needlessly unless you dock it to the other side of the window.

I really don't like the new library.

What I do is simply close the library, memory dots, animation, preview styles and set my preferences to launch to prefered state.  Then if I want to get something from the library, click on windows, open it and select what I want, then close it again. Same for every room, close what you don't want.  Jan

Tashar59,  semidieu's new shaderworks library script fixes all my library problems really.
It's at runtimedna

I don't have any problems with the library except the skinny scroll bar that is a PITA to grab and the resize issues.Oh and it loads slower with SR1 but that does not bother me, much.

I"m not looking for work arounds. Yes I can close all the tabs but I would rather have a fix. But I have a feeling that none of that is going to happen. To many people start using work arounds and then the programers think they don't have to change anything.

Shame too. That's the only things I have a complaint about. P8 has been pretty good out of the box for me.

My library still crashes occassionally on refresh. But, it is sporadic, and I can't reproduce it consistantly. I just have to remember to save everything before I refresh, just in case.

lmk

I think my library behaves worse after SR1. It was fine before, but now it suffers from all sorts of hard-to-predict weirdness:

1. sometimes it takes ages - 5 minutes or more - to populate properly on startup
2. sometimes it populates in the blink of an eye on startup (like it should?)
3. sometimes refresh crashes the whole app
4. sometimes it shows stuff from runtimes it shouldn't
5. I can't apply a MAT collection (.mc6) from anywhere except the Material Room, but if I add an .mc6 file to favorites, I can apply it from any room with a double-click

And I'll second the motion that the scroll bar down the side is too thin.

i am afraid that they will fix a lot things for SR2 but then they will make new bugs. because i think IDL didnt ignore reflections in the original realese.

Quote - I think my library behaves worse after SR1. It was fine before, but now it suffers from all sorts of hard-to-predict weirdness:

1. sometimes it takes ages - 5 minutes or more - to populate properly on startup
2. sometimes it populates in the blink of an eye on startup (like it should?)
3. sometimes refresh crashes the whole app
4. sometimes it shows stuff from runtimes it shouldn't
5. I can't apply a MAT collection (.mc6) from anywhere except the Material Room, but if I add an .mc6 file to favorites, I can apply it from any room with a double-click

And I'll second the motion that the scroll bar down the side is too thin.

Same for me - so annoying!

ice, in poser 7 sr 0,1,2, and 3, IDL ignored reflections (no indirect specular).  it was the same for poser 8 sr0 and sr1.  my advice to them, in this economic climate, would be: do not waste any money trying to add indirect specular (or other CPU-intensive features) to poser 8, but instead to fix the existing bugs ASAP.  if their experience with their beta testers reporting indirect diffuse bugs is any indication, they just don't have sufficient skills to report or solve indirect specular bugs IMVHO.

Quote - ice, in poser 7 sr 0,1,2, and 3, IDL ignored reflections (no indirect specular).  it was the same for poser 8 sr0 and sr1.  my advice to them, in this economic climate, would be: do not waste any money trying to add indirect specular (or other CPU-intensive features) to poser 8, but instead to fix the existing bugs ASAP.  if their experience with their beta testers reporting indirect diffuse bugs is any indication, they just don't have sufficient skills to report or solve indirect specular bugs IMVHO.

i didnt mean this.

when you render out a mirror with IDL . then in the mirror the IDL is ignored for the dark shadows. BB will explain it better.

Please stop speculate, i dont want another sr1 episode, let the developpers make their job, more long time they work, better will be the update !

P8 content update available, if it interest !

http://my.smithmicro.com/win/poser/updates.html