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Subject: Alternative to TC2?


momodot ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 3:01 PM · edited Wed, 07 October 2009 at 3:09 PM

I did not know WW2 did any operations with props... I'll have to look more closely. Are you meaning an un-rigged  "static prop" or a non-conforming "posable prop"? My terminology is all muddled but to me a non-conforming posable prop is a muti-part figure that is rigged but does not have a hip as a root part. An example is say an easypose tube. In the case of a shoe it would have a toe bone connected to a terminal foot bone but not follow a phantom IK chain up the hip for purposes of conforming.

BTW Dimension3D has a neat little script for converting figures into static one piece props with one click. Ockham has a similar script called "Furniturize" I think. Very handy sometimes once you have a figure posed to turn it into a prop without having to export/import. If you load it in set-up room and right back out it becomes a figure again and can take standard MATposes.

One hassle with doing it by export/import is loosing transparency settings on the eyes and lashes and probably any fancy shader set-ups there might be while these scripts preserve the material settings as loaded. You just have to remember to save the new prop or prop figure. I often turn my background figures into props to cut the amount of memory used in a scene.



Klebnor ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 3:04 PM

res ipsa loquitor means the thing speaks for itself.  Hence the pointed barb from WandW.

And quite right he/she is.  Hoist by my own petard !

By the way, and somewhat but no entirely off topic, the new Behemoth 2 from Sixus has integrated toast in the mesh as, if memory serves me, project human did as well.

auf, los!  essen ist fertig.

Klebnor

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WandW ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 3:19 PM

Quote - By the way, and somewhat but no entirely off topic, the new Behemoth 2 from Sixus has integrated toast in the mesh as, if memory serves me, project human did as well.

auf, los!  essen ist fertig.

Klebnor

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 4:50 PM

Quote - You really can't understand an argument Reductio ad absurdum?

When did Harry Potter get involved in all this? :tt2:


dasquid ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 5:34 PM

Quote -

Little known fact - Idi loved toast !

Klebnor

With BBQ Sauce.



Klebnor ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 6:08 PM

auf, los!  essen ist fertig. ~ Gotta go, dinner is ready.

Nothing controversial there.

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lkendall ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 9:14 PM · edited Wed, 07 October 2009 at 9:14 PM

momodot:

I don't know what kind of prop it makes. WW2 has a check box. When I am borrowing morphs from one figure for another, I use 2nd Skin by Dimension3d to hold the host figure's morphs, WW2 to reform the mesh to the shape of the target figure, and then use Morphing Cloths to convert the realigned morphs to the target figure. I noticed that WW2 can make a figure or a prop.

I made a figure of the M3 genital figure converted to fit M4. That way it would conform to M4's hip, and retain its rigging. Of course it would also retain its UV mapping, and take M3 textures. This would eliminate the need to convert the textures in the first place. In theory it could work. I don't know anything about rigging, and I suspect that that is what is thrown off by the conversion process. I do really suggest that some one who has XD try to see if that program can convert the M3 Genital CR2. While we may not need a converted genital figure much, others might find it very useful.

lmk

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 9:26 PM · edited Wed, 07 October 2009 at 9:30 PM

" I don't like these posing penises"  But you can make little costumes for them and stage skits.

"Is it some sort of ethnic thing?" I ain't gonna go there with regard to any of the Japanese implementations - notorious old joke about Occidental myths and Asian female genitalia. Arduino, viceroy of vaginas, lord of labia, count of - well that guy is Italian I believe and AFAIK there is nothing especially odd about Italian lady bits. In the interest of science however I will research this further.

 Years ago, Zygote (or perhaps Daz by then) supposedly stated that in their opinion there was no artistic need for anatomically correct female figures. I assume that meant that any pose which would reveal the omission was not artistic, though as Momodot points out, for most females that would leave you with an extremely limited range of poses for nudes. It seemed maybe just a wee bit sexist to me but others suggested a lack of access to, or familiarity with the requisite source material. 

Whatever,  the introduction of the gen_crease morph with V3 was a welcome change and probably adequate for non-erotic/non-medical images. Miki, Maya Doll and Have's Eroko have decent built in pudding. All of the bolt on accessories and after market pudding cups suffer from the dilemma of texturing. As LMK observes, there is enough natural variation in host/toast skin tone to give you some leeway - though perhaps more so for Caucasians. Pudding doesn't seem to mix and match so well to my eye especially when the texture has to blend into the rest of the pelvis.

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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 11:49 PM

file_440852.jpg

Someone call me?

Stupidity also evolves!


stepson ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 3:41 AM

I have created a texture converter which is an excellent product and superior in craft. It has been made to only convert textures of the caucasion  race, since I believe all other races are beast races. And anyone using textures of the beast races are partaking in beastiality which is a sin. I have decided this for you because of my superior morality, you as potential customers must purchase my product and thereby support my beliefs. I have appended my beliefs to my product by my statements. You do not have the right to not purchase my product because of my statements, nor do you have the right to say anything derogatory of my beliefs, after all I am only standing up for my morally superior beliefs.

(I dont actually believe this, but there are those who do)

Life is hard, but what a ride.


dasquid ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 6:14 AM

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Most likely I will never buy  tc2 3 or any other for that matter, If you aren't going to do the job completely, why bother doing it part way.

Don't say because of your morals, I hate it when someone tries to thrust their fucked up morals on me. I have fucked up morals of my own without someone else trying to make me do as they do.



Klebnor ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 7:57 AM

Quote - Now all my moral equations make sense! The missing constant? No toast=cannibalism!

Well, apparently No toast=racism.

Klebnor

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stallion ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 8:11 AM

so i guess no one will be posting their renders or visiting here dna or daz or any site that wont let them post full nude renders since they have a no nude policy i mean they are forcing their views on you and all.
sheesh....

You might as well PAY attention, because you can't afford FREE speech


Klebnor ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 8:24 AM

In the town where I live, the speed limit is 25 mph.  I find this limit ridiculously low, but have not succeeded in convincing the local authorities to increase it.

I still drive through town regularly ... I live there, after all.  Having said that, I would not buy a car with a maximum speed of 25 mph to match the village speed limit.  I frequently find myself on other roads, with higher allowable limits.  Therefore I chose to purchase a vehicle with a broad range of capabilities, then use it in a manner appropriate to the surroundings.

Just because you can doesn't mean you always do.  It's nice to have the capability, though.

By the way, I sometimes exceed 25 mph within city limits ... don't tell anyone.

Klebnor

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jugoth ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 8:27 AM

Thiers a simple solution for the problem, and i use a P**** model and can use any texture i want and use on any figure i want male or female.
if you look you will find.


nyguy ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 8:29 AM

Here is a better solution to the issue, learn how to create textures your self.

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nyguy ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 8:33 AM

Quote - In the town where I live, the speed limit is 25 mph.  I find this limit ridiculously low, but have not succeeded in convincing the local authorities to increase it.

I still drive through town regularly ... I live there, after all.  Having said that, I would not buy a car with a maximum speed of 25 mph to match the village speed limit.  I frequently find myself on other roads, with higher allowable limits.  Therefore I chose to purchase a vehicle with a broad range of capabilities, then use it in a manner appropriate to the surroundings.

Just because you can doesn't mean you always do.  It's nice to have the capability, though.

By the way, I sometimes exceed 25 mph within city limits ... don't tell anyone.

Klebnor

Having said that there is an alternative to your issue with speed limits, you can always move to a town where they are higher, good luck with that.

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stallion ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 9:30 AM

Quote - Here is a better solution to the issue, learn how to create textures your self.

i said the same thing on page one that's the best solution i would think

You might as well PAY attention, because you can't afford FREE speech


stepson ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 11:10 AM

But you all are forgetting the fact that I have the right of superiority to judge you all. You all have been judged and found wanting. Because of my superior morals and genetics it falls to me to protect all you lesser people from yourselves and your base desires. I know you are morally bankrupt and cannot choose the only true path yourselves.

All that is left for you to do is buy my products and support me, shut up and follow along, and dont complain. If you do this, you will be alright. Of course you can never reach my exaulted position, you simply were not born with the proper genetics, but if you mind your P's and Q's, do as I say, you might asspire to be a worthy servant of the chosen.

Life is hard, but what a ride.


nyguy ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 11:34 AM

Quote - But you all are forgetting the fact that I have the right of superiority to judge you all. You all have been judged and found wanting. Because of my superior morals and genetics it falls to me to protect all you lesser people from yourselves and your base desires. I know you are morally bankrupt and cannot choose the only true path yourselves.

All that is left for you to do is buy my products and support me, shut up and follow along, and dont complain. If you do this, you will be alright. Of course you can never reach my exaulted position, you simply were not born with the proper genetics, but if you mind your P's and Q's, do as I say, you might asspire to be a worthy servant of the chosen.

Whatever :b_rolleyes:

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stepson ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 11:51 AM · edited Thu, 08 October 2009 at 11:51 AM

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It is a well known fact that your kind cannot help but go into rut if you see any nudity, lying with anything in sight. You were born with this base imorality, you should welcome my guidance. I have the right.

Life is hard, but what a ride.


nyguy ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 1:47 PM

Quote - It is a well known fact that your kind cannot help but go into rut if you see any nudity, lying with anything in sight. You were born with this base imorality, you should welcome my guidance. I have the right.

Apparently you are as misguided and uneducated in the ways of us immoral humans.

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 1:56 PM

Quote - It is a well known fact that your kind cannot help but go into rut if you see any nudity, lying with anything in sight. You were born with this base imorality, you should welcome my guidance. I have the right.

Who is you in real life? Idi Amin?

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Klebnor ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 2:35 PM

Stepson:

You magnificent b@st@rd.  I have seen the light and will spend the remainder of my days singing your praises.  I promise never to burn the toast again.

Hallelujah!

Klebnor

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kawecki ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 2:52 PM

Quote - In the town where I live, the speed limit is 25 mph.  I find this limit ridiculously low, but have not succeeded in convincing the local authorities to increase it.

Quote - Just because you can doesn't mean you always do.  It's nice to have the capability, though.

The speed limit is a function of the radar, if is able to work, and the presence of any police.

Stupidity also evolves!


stepson ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 3:05 PM

Quote - > Quote - It is a well known fact that your kind cannot help but go into rut if you see any nudity, lying with anything in sight. You were born with this base imorality, you should welcome my guidance. I have the right.

Who is you in real life? Idi Amin?

I am a little red headed dwarf with one green eye and one brown eye, both not necessarily in my face. But of the master race mind you, with far superior intelect, morality, and genetics. Idi Amin is a distant cousin of mine.

Life is hard, but what a ride.


stepson ( ) posted Thu, 08 October 2009 at 3:08 PM

Quote - Stepson:

You magnificent b@st@rd.  I have seen the light and will spend the remainder of my days singing your praises.  I promise never to burn the toast again.

Hallelujah!

Klebnor

As well you should, it is only my due. I shall use my superiority to guide you past the pitfalls of your poor immoral selves. And so in such an indeavor I have changed my texture converter to only convert textures of read headed dwarves, fully clothed, to safegaurd you from falling into rut over my magnificent body.

Life is hard, but what a ride.


StormysMom ( ) posted Sat, 20 February 2010 at 7:17 PM

If He made the product he has a right to say how it is to be used, I imagine he is more worried about Gods opinion of him than any artist.. I glad I found this out about him because I will definate be supporting him more...


HeWhoWatches ( ) posted Sat, 20 February 2010 at 7:47 PM

"If the human body's obscene, complain to the manufacturer, not me." -- Larry Flynt

I'm pretty sure Yahweh considers necroposting to be an abomination.


R_Hatch ( ) posted Sat, 20 February 2010 at 10:36 PM

"And, verily, let it be known, that if any one of you sees a post that has been dead for more than seven days, keepest thine hand from posting to it, lest thou become unclean."

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PsychoNaut ( ) posted Sat, 20 February 2010 at 11:14 PM

Quote - God made a mistake making man with a penis. They are only correcting this error.

:lol:
 

Man this is true.  When I was younger the thing used to get me into so much trouble.  Thank the lord I finally beat it into submission   😉


JenX ( ) posted Sun, 21 February 2010 at 4:26 AM

 :rolleyes:

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 February 2010 at 10:34 AM

Wow, I am so pleased to see this on the first page again.  ;) 

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 22 February 2010 at 10:39 AM

watch it you lot...

or it's the Sean Connery in a loincloth picture!



JenX ( ) posted Mon, 22 February 2010 at 11:11 AM

 ....1962 Sean Connery, or Present Day?

One is a threat.  The other is not :lol:

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 22 February 2010 at 11:11 AM

have you seen Zardoz? ;)



JenX ( ) posted Mon, 22 February 2010 at 11:15 AM

 Hey, now, don't blame the man for the Creative Department's mistakes.  When you're out there, makin' money, you have to do some weird crap in the name of art.

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stepson ( ) posted Tue, 23 February 2010 at 8:37 AM

And so I see my unworthy servants have returned.   :lol:

Life is hard, but what a ride.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 23 February 2010 at 8:47 AM

Quote -  Hey, now, don't blame the man for the Creative Department's mistakes.  When you're out there, makin' money, you have to do some weird crap in the name of art.

but...... that loincloth!!!



lmckenzie ( ) posted Wed, 24 February 2010 at 1:17 AM

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What's wrong with my loincloth? Trebeck, you sissy. I'm farting on your toupee as we speak. Now give me women's genitals for 50 and bugger off you ponce.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Wed, 24 February 2010 at 8:26 AM

....what?



dorkmcgork ( ) posted Wed, 24 February 2010 at 12:55 PM

 you guys know how the paladins are...they reveal their own internal workings when they are raving at sin.  remember ted haggard?  mark foley?  the list goes on.  it's like the old, the fox smells it's own hole first.  they rave about how bad we and the world are, but they are themselves reveling in the sin of it all, and the fact that it is evil to them makes it all the more nummy to them.
so these guys sell a crap product.  the marketplace will sink them.  (unless the sin brigade supports them perpetually.  how likely is that?)

go that way really fast.
if something gets in your way
turn


HeWhoWatches ( ) posted Wed, 24 February 2010 at 6:40 PM · edited Wed, 24 February 2010 at 6:41 PM

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The problem isn't that TC2 sucks, it's that it doesn't.  If it was a crappy program, someone else would create an alternative.  The whole reason I began this thread lo! those many moons ago was to find out if there was anything else that does what TC2 does.  Aside from some vague references to DPHoadley some day maybe working on something that might possibly do what I need, there's not much else out there.  They've made a good product which has a slight flaw which most people can overlook or work around.  I'm boycotting their self-righteous asses out of annoyance at their bowdlerizing, finger-waggling, and arrogant moral busybodying, not because they have a shit product.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 25 February 2010 at 4:15 AM

Attached Link: Celebrity Jeopardy!

"*What?"*

http://www.hulu.com/watch/12768/saturday-night-live-celebrity-jeopardy---cruise-sandler-and-connery.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 25 February 2010 at 4:15 AM

Attached Link: Celebrity Jeopardy!

"*What?"*

http://www.hulu.com/watch/12768/saturday-night-live-celebrity-jeopardy---cruise-sandler-and-connery.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


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