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Subject: Poser animated video in competition on IFC - please support


KoanMediaNYC ( ) posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 1:20 PM · edited Mon, 06 January 2025 at 10:33 PM

Hey all,

I entered a flick I made into an IFC competition, it was animated in Poser and rendered in CP6.

Check it out HERE and share with as many peeps as possible - then comment comment comment (on the IFC site). :-)

The video on IFC is SUCH crappy quality, it was originally created in 1280 x 720 but it's crunched way down but I'm hoping you will all still enjoy.  I'm actually kinda shocked they accepted it as it's TWICE as long as their rules stipulate, but I it was there so I submitted!  Hehe

Hopefully it will be up in its original HD format sometime in the future on my website but until then go check it out on IFC.

FYI - the warnings at the beginning of the film are for real. Violence, Sexual content, Nudity, Language etc. So consider yourself warned!!

A victory for one is a victory for all!
Now I'm off to spread the word myself.

Thanks!
d

PS - It seems like you might need to crank up the volume, the sound on MY laptop at least isn't that great on this link, that's funny cuz the quality is really good on the original.


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 4:03 PM

 What I don't understand here is...

WHERE ARE ALL THE AWESTRUCK VIEWERS?! Come on guys! Comment on this! WATCH it! It's absofrikkinlutely AWESOME!

Koan: Super job here! How much was bvh and how much is old-fashioned keyframing? Not that it makes any difference, I just think I recognized a few bvhs :) In any case they were masterfully edited and spliced together!

I loved the little details, too. The smoke, the flashing lights on the police car being reflected on the guy - everything! BRAVO!

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You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
  Using Poser since 2002. Currently at Version 11.1 - Win 10.



KoanMediaNYC ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 2:45 PM

Hi Trekkie Grrrl!

Thanks for the kudos - that means a helluva lot coming from you. Seriously.

The damn thing took long enough to finish. And yeap you DID see some bvh files in there you may've seen before :-) (The SWAT animations and a few bvh files from Truebones the rest consisted of keyframing and mocap)

Thanks to the folks who have commented so far, I really appreciate it. Hopefully more with contribute and soon enough others won't immediately think "amateur" when they hear the word "Poser"!

Onward!


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 2:55 PM

I watched it half-way thru, and I thought it was technically excellent for a poser movie, altho there were some cinematic elements for night-time street scenes that were missing.  some tricks that directors use for night street scenes, e.g. hose down the street to get specular surface, localised atmospherics, brighter illumination of objects by headlites, spotlites and reflectors that wouldn't actually appear on a real street but are added to make lighting more dramatic, et al.



aeilkema ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 5:40 PM

I'm all for supporting Poser stuff, but I'm not just going to support something just because it's made in Poser. Violence, sexual content, nudity, language etc., aren't things I'm willing to support, sorry, not even when it's made with Poser.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 7:36 PM

 I wonder what kind of movies you're able to watch then. Teletubbies?

FREEBIES! | My Gallery | My Store | My FB | Tumblr |
You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
  Using Poser since 2002. Currently at Version 11.1 - Win 10.



MikeJ ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 8:04 PM · edited Wed, 11 November 2009 at 8:07 PM

I think it's actually pretty good. Maybe not movie quality, but definitely game cut scene quality. I have to say that's got to be the best Poser animation I've ever seen, although I thought a lot of the character animation was too stiff.
Too dark in some places though, which is made worse by it being against a bright white background page. Sure you can enlarge it to full screen but then all the compression artifacts are too obvious.
If the contest stipulated that degree of compression that's one thing, but I think it would have been a lot better with less video compression.

Agreed with Miss Nancy - it could have benefitted a great deal from more dramatic lighting in places. That sort of thing would have enhanced it tremendously.
Overall though, really nice job on that!



InfoCentral ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 8:30 PM

Quote - I'm all for supporting Poser stuff, but I'm not just going to support something just because it's made in Poser. Violence, sexual content, nudity, language etc., aren't things I'm willing to support, sorry, not even when it's made with Poser.

Have to second you on that one myself.


KoanMediaNYC ( ) posted Wed, 11 November 2009 at 9:10 PM · edited Wed, 11 November 2009 at 9:22 PM

Quote -  I wonder what kind of movies you're able to watch then. Teletubbies?

LOL!

It's all good. Everything is subjective. I create things therefore my "stuff" is subject to scrutiny. I'm used to it because I put myself out there - been making films (live action) for a while now, comes with the territory. People support what they want, and that's cool too. I make the types of films I'D like to see so no apologies there. Don't support it if you don't want dudes and dudettes, it's entirely your prerogative.

And to the supporters, thank you. I appreciate it... really

As for the quality of the video:

"Too dark in some places though, which is made worse by it being against a bright white background page. Sure you can enlarge it to full screen but then all the compression artifacts are too obvious."

Check my initial post when I said:

*"The video on IFC is SUCH crappy quality, it was originally created in 1280 x 720 but it's crunched way down but I'm hoping you will all still enjoy."

That's IFC's page, I was actually saying the original video had a lot less compression but eh that's cool too - not here to explain myself, just share some stuff. If you likes cool, if not, that's cool too. I'm still gonna keep making my stuff and putting it out there and I hope the rest of you will continue to do the same. ;-)

As for the filmmaking tips, create a thread - I'm always willing to learn via example. I wouldn't mind seeing some of your Poser animations where those lighting techniques are utilized and a little explanation of how they're done. Hell that's how I learned to use Poser in the first place, from the more seasoned folks out there... and hit me up with a PM when those threads are up.

looking forward to it... peace


aeilkema ( ) posted Thu, 12 November 2009 at 2:36 AM

Quote -  I wonder what kind of movies you're able to watch then. Teletubbies?

Besides Teletubbies, a lot still. It's also the way violence, sexual content, nudity, language and so are portrayed, it's the combination that makes it too much. In 99% of the movies sexual content and nudity serve no purpose at all, but the movie will not sell without it. There are very acceptable ways to get around the actual showing of sexual content & nudity, but still get the point across. Same for language, a lot of movies can just as well do without, there's no need for it. It could have been portrayed in a different way. Then there's violence. There's a different between violence and violence. Some movies go over the top and are senseless in that matter, more like a glorification if it. I don't need to watch those, there's no point in that. In others, it serves a purpose and I'm fine with that.

Take Schindler's list for example. The violence serves a purpose and protrays something the move cannot be done without. The sex and nudity on the other hand, serves no purpose and the movie would actually have been even better if they left those parts out, or at least do the same shots without the actual sex and nudity. Wouldn't hurt the movie at all.

Then there's Saving Private Ryan. Violence yes, but it brings a message across, it's show something they way it well could have happened. On the other hand there's Steven Segal movies..... 99% pure rediculous violence. Look how though I am..... I can kill anyone I like and get away with it. How much fun is that? What's the purpose of that? For some it's entertainment, but there's no point to the violence at all, I do find it a waste of morals and time.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


skuts ( ) posted Thu, 12 November 2009 at 7:23 AM

Excellent work, nicely done. Watch out for typos, though.

"Facts are the enemy of truth."


MikeJ ( ) posted Thu, 12 November 2009 at 2:49 PM

Quote -
That's IFC's page, I was actually saying the original video had a lot less compression but eh that's cool too - not here to explain myself, just share some stuff. If you likes cool, if not, that's cool too. I'm still gonna keep making my stuff and putting it out there and I hope the rest of you will continue to do the same. ;-)

As for the filmmaking tips, create a thread - I'm always willing to learn via example. I wouldn't mind seeing some of your Poser animations where those lighting techniques are utilized and a little explanation of how they're done. Hell that's how I learned to use Poser in the first place, from the more seasoned folks out there... and hit me up with a PM when those threads are up.

No offense, but you sound kind of defensive there. I didn't say I didn't like it - actually I said the opposite.
And you did, after all, say "then comment comment comment..." On that site, but I didn't want to leave anything negative or critical there. And I'm not really much of a "Wow, totally awesome and kewl dude!" type of guy. ;-)
At any rate, as they say, "I may not know about art, but I know what I like". I'm not a lighting guru or much of a CA animator, but it doesn't mean I (or others) don't have an opinion on what just looks good.
And as I've said, that's about the best animation I've ever seen out of Poser, if not the best. Clearly you have the skills for animation and I'd love to see where you take it.



KoanMediaNYC ( ) posted Thu, 12 November 2009 at 7:30 PM

Quote -

No offense, but you sound kind of defensive there. I didn't say I didn't like it - actually I said the opposite.

Ha nah dude, I got no reason to be offensive. I'm coming up with pretty sizey ideas then executing them, I'm loving life right about now. Like I was saying, it comes with the territory. Say whatever you'd like. I put that out there, that's what happens. It was more for the "I won't support that kinda stuff!" my answer is "don't" it's all good. The competition is actually FOR a video game - assassin's creed 2, not sure if anyone ever played it but it's CRAZY violent.. neck stabbings and such (check it out) ... so why make a heartfelt flick? Or a flick that wasn't nasty? Didn't make sense... you make movies for the audience and the audience for Assassin's Creed or GTA 4 or Left4Dead or whatever wants violence.. period. If you're only into games like  Zelda then you wouldn't be into GTA.. most likely.

Oh and it was made to look like an FMV/cut scene that starts game play so if you were a judge I'd be golden!

OK, I'm getting off this thing... a "sharing occasion" has turned into something else. I still hope all who LIKE this sort of thing will watch and if they watch I hope they enjoy...

Peace all.


MikeJ ( ) posted Fri, 13 November 2009 at 1:31 AM

I was wondering why it had Assassin's Creed for a tag, actually. I didn't even really read through everything there, just watched the video.
Assassin's Creed was and still is one of my favorite games I've ever bought, by the way. Beautiful graphics, great gameplay. My only complaint was not enough variety in the side missions, but that's not the subject here.
If you're looking for a career doing cut scenes and even just regular animation for games I'd say you're well on your way. :-)



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