Hi all,

I'm using poser pro and recently realized that the animation rendering at poser takes so long time beyond my patience. 120 frames about 3 hours.. So I'm looking for 3rd software that I can import the ani pz3 file from poser and then render at the faster speed with better quality of course. Any recommendation would be pretty appreciated. Thanks!

e-on's Vue 8 and DAZ's Carrara 7 seem to be powerful choices.

I use Cinema 4D, with the InterPoser Pro plugin, and it works great--very stable. C4D is a good all-around 3D package as well, so you are able to model and animate objects and settings as well, and it renders very fast, compared to Poser. Examples at: www.auroratrek.com

carrara is pretty fast for poser amins IMVHO.  but try poser 8 sr2 as well. decrement settings to speed things up.

Quote - carrara is pretty fast for poser amins IMVHO.  but try poser 8 sr2 as well. decrement settings to speed things up.

Now how is Poser 8 sr2 going to help poserpro? poser pro is P7. LOL.

edit to say I use Vue8I now but Vue 6I worked fine with poserpro. I also use Carrara7. Depends on what I need to animate.

120 frames in 3 hours is only 1.5 mins per frame. You're gonna be hard pressed to get renders faster then that in any app at decent quality. About the only ones that can do it are the high end ones like VRay and mentalray (and esp. their realtime/GPU versions) but those will cost a lot of $$ and are not easy to use with poser besides.

It would probably be easier and cheaper to just get a few more machines and setup a farm for your renders (PPro lets you do network rendering IIRC)

Quote - > Quote - carrara is pretty fast for poser amins IMVHO.  but try poser 8 sr2 as well. decrement settings to speed things up.

Now how is Poser 8 sr2 going to help poserpro? poser pro is P7. LOL.

edit to say I use Vue8I now but Vue 6I worked fine with poserpro. I also use Carrara7. Depends on what I need to animate.

Poser 7 is Poser 7, PoserPro is PoserPro !!!

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - carrara is pretty fast for poser amins IMVHO.  but try poser 8 sr2 as well. decrement settings to speed things up.

Now how is Poser 8 sr2 going to help poserpro? poser pro is P7. LOL.

edit to say I use Vue8I now but Vue 6I worked fine with poserpro. I also use Carrara7. Depends on what I need to animate.

Poser 7 is Poser 7, PoserPro is PoserPro !!!

Poser pro is Poser 7 with extra bells export options and whistles.  So Poser 8 sr2 won't work.

As you want ...

Are you sure your not confussing Propack with Poser Pro?

PP was P4, Poser pro Is P7 and Poser pro 2010 will be P8.

Lol no, i have p3 p4 p7 ppro and p8, i'm not confusing ;-)

http://my.smithmicro.com/win/graphics.html

Quote - Lol no, i have p3 p4 p7 ppro and p8, i'm not confusing ;-)

OK just because Ppro is more money, And as I said, more options,. it is still P7 base. Don't know how you can not know that.

Yes I have P4,5,6,7,Pro and 8.

But since you don't believe me, Why not post the question to the forum here and see what answers you get.

bet it's what I'm telling you. With a lot saying the extras are background rendering, 64 bit render, extra export options to other software. among some others. Lets not forget those other figures we got. Yet with all that, it is still P7.

Quote - Hi all,

I'm using poser pro and recently realized that the animation rendering at poser takes so long time beyond my patience. 120 frames about 3 hours.. So I'm looking for 3rd software that I can import the ani pz3 file from poser and then render at the faster speed with better quality of course. Any recommendation would be pretty appreciated. Thanks!

Oh how I wish....

P8 is, and has been for the last day or so, rendering a frame every 42 mins, I look forward to seeing a full minute of animation sometime next week. Now if I could just find that spare $4,000 I'd buy Studio max and have it done yesterday, or maybe save up for a neural implant and bypass all the fiddling about with software and just print my imagination straight to disc

Quote - Hi all,

I'm using poser pro and recently realized that the animation rendering at poser takes so long time beyond my patience. 120 frames about 3 hours.. So I'm looking for 3rd software that I can import the ani pz3 file from poser and then render at the faster speed with better quality of course. Any recommendation would be pretty appreciated. Thanks!

120 frames in 3 hours is pretty fast. You can buy whatever you like, but I doubt you will get much better then that for the price you're going to pay. Especially not when you desire better quality and yet faster rendering speed. The 2 don't match..... more quality is more time. I've seen Vue recommended, but Vue isn't really faster then Poser when it comes to rendering poser imported scenes, often it's slower.

If you're desperate to spent money I would suggest Poser 8 or waiting for Poser Pro 2010. Poser 8 renders a lot faster then Poser Pro and I dare to state even a lot faster then Vue or Carrara do, when it comes to rendering poser content. Perhaps not as fast as Cinema4D, but that one has a much different price tag. For that kind of money I would rather buy a faster computer, which will give me much more rendering speed on Poser then Cinema4D does.

Quality is relative. Poser 8 is able to do a much higher rendering quality then Poser Pro can, in much less time. Vue may give you a better rendering quality, but that comes with a cost..... loss of speed. Carrara will not out do Poser in quality anymore.

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Oh how I wish....

P8 is, and has been for the last day or so, rendering a frame every 42 mins, I look forward to seeing a full minute of animation sometime next week. Now if I could just find that spare $4,000 I'd buy Studio max and have it done yesterday, or maybe save up for a neural implant and bypass all the fiddling about with software and just print my imagination straight to disc

Sounds like your computer is a problem. For me to get a rendering time of 42 minutes on my Core2Duo I will be rendering very complex scenes with larger render sizes, like over 1500x1500. With animations I don't think you're using larger render size and probably not even very complex scenes, so 42 minutes per scene sounds way too long.

Buying Studio Max will most likely not solve anything for you, a new computer may be a much better solution and a lot less pricey.

You know, After re-reading Miss Nancy's post. I take it was to buy P8 with sr2. and not as I had read it late last night as using the p8 sr2 with Ppro. LOL sorry about that Miss Nancy.

Yes I would agree with upgrading to P8. It is indeed faster than Pro. Also agree with the better computer before thinking about higher priced software.

aeikema, you are partially right, it is a fairly old machine (4 years or so) but it is a pretty complex scene, P7, 7 lights, raytracing, 3 fully dressed figures in a glass walled room. I knew I was asking for trouble. lol

As a note to the op, Poser 8 is distinctly faster than previous versions

@ OP... I use Vue6 Infinite with 5 rendercows to render P8 animations.  Works great for me, giving me what I personally need in terms of speed versus quality.

BTW, I don't subscribe to these general statements about which renderer is faster.  These programs have too many setting variables to make general conclusions.  For example, just yesterday I was working with Vue6Inf, made one tweak to an atmospheric setting and changed the render time from 57 min to 12 min.  In my experience, there's no substitute for trying each candidate renderer to see how long it takes to render scenes which meet your personal aesthetic objectives.  Thank God for demo versions.

BTW#2: I just noticed that I joined this place just days before Little Dragon did, way back in 2001.  If only I could have accumulated as much knowledge since then as he has. 

If your animating, farm it!
Get any rendering application that can farm the load in the format your animation is in.
Theres plenty and they're all good, many have been listed prev.

Second best or even last best machines give good bang for buck if you throw enough of em at the task.
Single machine rendering is not realy viable for animation, only still images.

How difficult is it to import Poser content into Vue, Carrera, Cinema?  Which is the easiest and most direct?

 I use the Fusion plug to animate in 3DS Max 2009 (64bit) and I'm very happy with it. I'll be even more happy when PoserPro 2010 comes out with its update for Max 2010. I'm particularly pleased with the ability to use the cloth simulator in Max with Poser models.

Quote - How difficult is it to import Poser content into Vue, Carrera, Cinema?  Which is the easiest and most direct?

Vue and Carrara can load Poser content directly. For Cinema, you need either Poser Pro or the Interposer plugin for import.

When you say they load it directly, does that mean I can create:

• Clothed character in Poser, then import it as-is (whole) without having to re-select clothes, props, textures.
• An entire animation as-is for rendering

BTW, what is the Poser Fusion plug-in and where can it be found for purchase?

Quote - Hi all,

I'm using poser pro and recently realized that the animation rendering at poser takes so long time beyond my patience. 120 frames about 3 hours.. So I'm looking for 3rd software that I can import the ani pz3 file from poser and then render at the faster speed with better quality of course. Any recommendation would be pretty appreciated. Thanks!

I am currently doing a 256 frame animation that is doing 1 frame every 50 minutes lol, 120 frames in 3 hours I can only dream of!

My first advice is drop the quality of the renders... I cannot imagine they are very high quality anyway with super render speeds like that!

Using Vue 7 + will decrease render times significantly for poser pro and prob look better and you will be able to make atmospheres, terrains etc.... however I have only just purchased poser 8 and am finding it exceptionally fast and much more intuitive to use than poser pro ( which I uninstalled the other day) . Vue still has the edge when it comes to realism (or at least I cannot get rendering in poser to look as good as Vue)

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Vue and Carrara can load Poser content directly. For Cinema, you need either Poser Pro or the Interposer plugin for import.

Rehashing an old thread but I see that "InterPoser" only works with C4D - what is the best/easiest way to render a Poser animation inside of 3DS Max? (Or is Poser Pro the only way?) I've tried the OBJ files etc. but it takes WAY too long applying the textures etc etc etc and I've seen some REALLY great Poser renders in 3DS on the web, I just can't seem to figure out the best workflow!

Thanks!

I can't get content from Poser to load properly into either Vue or Carrara.