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Subject: Avatar morphs for M4/V4?


-blue- ( ) posted Mon, 14 December 2009 at 2:31 PM · edited Tue, 05 November 2024 at 5:42 AM

hi, with all the hype with the movie and all i wanted to try (probably fail) making morphs for M4/V4 to resemble as much as posible the avatar guys.. the main problem for me seems to be both the nose and the ears.. any chance this can be done without having to go into something like zbrush? or anyone working on this?

the rest seems relatively "simple" 10ft tall guys.. really thing but strong at the same time.. the tail i have not been able to get a good look at it yet but with the creature creator tails i'm sure something could be done..

so what do you guys think?


replicand ( ) posted Mon, 14 December 2009 at 5:00 PM

Within reason, I don't see why you couldn't use the morph tool. Zbrush would be an excellent choice since its designed to handle that sort of workflow.

Even though the edge flow is basically humanoid, you're going to run into problems especially at the ear. Avatar ears are set much higher on the head than Mil4's, so the edges surrounding them might become "scrunched". Not a good thing as far as texturing / displacement is concerned.

Eye sockets / nose bridge will be tricky but not impossible.


ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:14 AM

Quote - hi, with all the hype with the movie and all i wanted to try (probably fail) making morphs for M4/V4 to resemble as much as posible the avatar guys.. the main problem for me seems to be both the nose and the ears.. any chance this can be done without having to go into something like zbrush? or anyone working on this?

the rest seems relatively "simple" 10ft tall guys.. really thing but strong at the same time.. the tail i have not been able to get a good look at it yet but with the creature creator tails i'm sure something could be done..

so what do you guys think?

how can we do a long neck and long arms and legs? they are not just skinny. their body looks streched.

ears are very high up. and the eyes are bigger .


-blue- ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 5:01 AM

well they are streched, but they don't seem like just legs, arms and all that the rest of the body is too, it porbably won't be exact but by making them really tall it sort of could be faked, the neck i have no clue..  im no good with this kind of things as i said i probably will fail at it, but the character itselfs are cool enough to give it a try.. if anyone that actually knows what they are doing wants to do it go ahead, this is more of an experiment for me.. maybe create a morph dials if thats even possible to strech them.. i have no idea to be honest.. but it would be nice to have..


Zaycrow ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 11:08 AM

file_444815.jpg

This was done from the few pictures I have seen. I haven't seen the movie so it might be way off. But it was done in PoserPro2010 (P8) using the morphing tool. I'm no texture guru so the textures are crap, but I think this can be done a lot better for people who know about texturing and morhping.



ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 12:24 PM

the nose needs to be wider
but  woooooooooow.

will you realese this? i would love tot texture her.

can you do the same ears for M4?


-blue- ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 12:35 PM

wow, glad to see someone else trying this.. defently more skillful than me.. and this was done with a beta? nice even the ears have been pulled up..

most impressive


Zaycrow ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 12:35 PM

If only I knew how to extract the morphs.



PilotHigh ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 2:22 PM · edited Tue, 15 December 2009 at 2:25 PM

file_444836.jpg

This is what I did yesterday. I don't like the morph tool and hate using it so I can't fix the nose any more or the top lip.

edit: this was done in P7 with V4 ++ and creature creator and a bought texture


milanautica ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 2:31 PM

You all did great work on her, wow!

I also played a bit with V4 and this came out. It's an early progress, maybe I find some time to work more on her...

It makes fun to work on such a different being!
Excited about other versions...


PilotHigh ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 3:06 PM

Quote - You all did great work on her, wow!

I also played a bit with V4 and this came out. It's an early progress, maybe I find some time to work more on her...

It makes fun to work on such a different being!
Excited about other versions...

Where did you get the wonderful texture?


milanautica ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 3:13 PM

It's a merchant ressource texture from MaskEdit. I just turned it blue and made the rest in photoshop with brushes.


PilotHigh ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 3:54 PM

I searched thru his store here but I don't see it. Do you recall the name of the set?


milanautica ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:01 PM · edited Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:02 PM

@PilotHigh:
It's this one


PilotHigh ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:07 PM · edited Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:10 PM

So I take it that you put the stripes on yourself in Photoshop?

edit: did you put the stripes right on the texture or use a PS layer that you could give out?


milanautica ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:12 PM · edited Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:14 PM

yes, the stripes and the sprinkles on her face. I also changed the color of her inner ears. The stripes where made very quick just on her head and upper torso. I hope to find some time to make her whole body.

edit: It's a new ps layer. I used a very dark blue, painted some stripes and in layer options I selected "soft light" and adjusted the transparency.


PilotHigh ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:19 PM

Thank you for the info. I guess I'll have to try it out soon.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:24 PM · edited Tue, 15 December 2009 at 4:25 PM

I guess their blood contains cyanoglobin, so they go red when you boil 'em. Kinda like Smurfs.  :biggrin: 

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bopperthijs ( ) posted Tue, 15 December 2009 at 5:39 PM

Don't forget the tail :lol:

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milanautica ( ) posted Wed, 16 December 2009 at 7:13 AM

a little update


-blue- ( ) posted Wed, 16 December 2009 at 7:46 AM

looking great


PilotHigh ( ) posted Wed, 16 December 2009 at 8:19 AM

WOW, that's very good!!


milanautica ( ) posted Wed, 16 December 2009 at 8:43 AM · edited Wed, 16 December 2009 at 8:49 AM

Thank you!


dasquid ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 10:16 PM

Quote -

a little update

That looks damned nice.
 Anyone get any further on this idea?



ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 3:52 AM

i saw the movie and i am obssesed.

a good link from zbrush
www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php


PilotHigh ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 9:05 AM

Thank you so much for the link!!


-blue- ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 9:55 AM

that link is simply amazing.. i just saw the movie and i simply loved it, amazing does not even cut it


ShawnMcCarthy ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 11:57 AM

 Wow, wonderful work here.

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ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 12:16 PM

Quote - that link is simply amazing.. i just saw the movie and i simply loved it, amazing does not even cut it

after the movie did you feel like you experienced the movie?


-blue- ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 12:50 PM

Quote - > Quote - that link is simply amazing.. i just saw the movie and i simply loved it, amazing does not even cut it

after the movie did you feel like you experienced the movie?

not sure i got everything, i've probably missed so many details, but it's simply beautifull, the plants, the animals, these lovely blue guys.. i really hope that they have an extended version because the 2h30min kind of feel short.. but it does give you the feel that you are there.. not sure how the 3d version is but it could be crazy.. i just hope that the plants, creatures and na'vi all hit poser at some point


ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 1:43 PM · edited Sun, 20 December 2009 at 1:44 PM

file_445106.jpg

for M4

ok i  tryed to copy the same glowing dots like on the main character. i am posting this now as black and white. because i want to give you a chance to use them how you want. open this in photoshop and do what you want.


ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 1:44 PM

file_445107.jpg

for M4

ok i here tryed to do the stripes on the face. i will now start working on the body stripes .


PilotHigh ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 3:40 PM

Thanks!


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