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Subject: WIP - New Seal & Salmon Image


ominousplay ( ) posted Sun, 25 April 2010 at 10:32 PM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 9:25 PM

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I'm working on a new seal and salmon scene that I will eventually paint on a larger scale.  I'm trying to get the composition right.  Looking for an aggressive and dynamic composition.  Suggestions appreciated. R

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ominousplay ( ) posted Sun, 25 April 2010 at 10:32 PM

Oh yeah, Daz seal with fur and salmon I modeled some time ago.

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Sueposer ( ) posted Mon, 26 April 2010 at 12:43 PM

Run, fish, run! Oops... Swim, fish, swim!
I suggest shorter fur on the seal's head and edges of the flippers. Maybe some kind of wavy lines in the water indicating the little currents of fish movement...?


ominousplay ( ) posted Mon, 26 April 2010 at 3:00 PM

I like the suggestions for the seal's fur - yes, it is a bit of a mess.  The water movement might pose an interesting problem without post production work.  I'm using fog and clouds for the variations in the water.  Maybe tiny bubbles to indicate movement...

Also, the sunlight coming through needs to be broken up with a mask.  I can't seem to find the examples posted some time ago... great blk/white masks for underwater lighting.

r

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bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 26 April 2010 at 6:40 PM

Light Gels
Carrara7 User Guide p501

Brian

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ominousplay ( ) posted Tue, 27 April 2010 at 1:31 AM

Thank you.  I'm also trying to find a post over at the Daz forum that featured beautiful examples of sun rays from Carrara8 beta.  Sun rays would look good cutting through the water.

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bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 27 April 2010 at 2:35 AM

The sunrays inC8 are pretty much a pita.
Everything has to be set "exactly" so to get the effect.

The regular Light "lens Flare" options can more easily/effectivly be applied to a scene I think.

Brian

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ominousplay ( ) posted Tue, 27 April 2010 at 11:40 PM

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I was having trouble with the lens flare.  Couldn't get it to work.  Still working in 7 for this project. This is it so far.

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bwtr ( ) posted Wed, 28 April 2010 at 1:15 AM

Sorry if I mislead you----I think both the lens flair and the rays would only be effective in the sky (atmosphere)--the distant light, as a sunlight, would have to be visable in the scene?
Be seen through and above the water?.
Brian

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Sueposer ( ) posted Wed, 28 April 2010 at 10:47 AM

The gradual blurring out of the fish is perfect!


ominousplay ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2010 at 11:25 PM

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I know these look very similar, but I've been trying to play with several variables.  This is another attempt at making the bubbles look realistic... still not getting the lighting right using a gel over the spot.

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bwtr ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2010 at 12:35 AM

The gel pattern should show up on the top skin of the fish/animals.
'Brian

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UVDan ( ) posted Tue, 04 May 2010 at 1:50 AM
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It would be much more dramatic if the salmon were eating the seal.

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