I'm a new Poser user, and I have PoserPro2010.  I need to make several different looking kids for an animation project. I'm starting with the poser figure "Ben" from poser 6 as a basic starting point, and want to make changes from there to make him look different.

The first thing I did was load Ben, then added his TShirt and Pants, then I went to Figure>Conform To...and conformed the TShirt and Pants to the Ben Figure, so when I pose him, the clothes will follow along, and that works ok when I pose him, as long as I keep him the original size.

The problem I'm having is when I change Ben's figure height from adult to adolescent (using the Figure menu) to make him look smaller, the clothes didn't change size. So, I selected the TShirt and then the Pants and used the Figure Height menu again, this time changing the clothes to "adolescent", and they became smaller and almost fit, but as you can see from the attached image, not quite right.

Is there a way to get the clothes to stay conformed even when I change the figure height of Ben, or do I have to manually change his size so that the clothes will stay conformed to his body?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

MM

This may not work with the preset scaling from the Poser Figure menu but should work if you manually scale the base figure.

1. Manually scale the base figure.
2. Conform the clothing to the figure.
3. Poser menu Window > Python Scripts
4. Click the top button in the Python Scripts window labeled "Wardrobe Wizard"
5. Click Utilities > Figure > More
6. Ensure that the base figure is selected in the scene.
7. Click the Python Script button "Copy Scaling"
8. Select the clothing figure in the scene.
9. Click the Python Script button "Paste Scaling"

See if that works for you.

Ok, will give that a try & hopefully it will work, thank you for the instructions PhilC, much appreciated!

What is the difference in scaling the figure manually, rather than doing it all at once with the Figure menu and selecting a size there? Just curious.

MM

 That Figure scale thing is a leftover from Poser 3 and 4. It does't really work with newer figures (well, as you can see it works to a degree, but not quite)

 I find it odd that not all major figures have a proper height morph..  I mean V4 is like 6 feet tall, and I rarely want to have that tall women in my creations..   With most characters we unfortunately have to use workarounds like these.. I really hope they address this in future gen characters.. 

To me, adjusting height is a fundamental need when creating a custom character.

Here are the steps I did in order

1.Load Ben figure

2 Made sure Ben & Body were selected

3 Used the scale tool to scale Ben smaller

4 From Props library I loaded Ben’s Pants & TShirt

5 Selected Pants and used Figure>Conform To & selected Ben

6 Selected Shirt and used Figure>Conform To & selected Ben

7 Went to Python scripts/Wardrobe Wizard/Utilities/Figure/More…

8 Made sure that Ben & Body were selected

9 Clicked on Copy Scaling

10 Selected Ben Pants and clicked on Apply Scaling

11 Selected Ben Shirt and clicked on Apply Scaling

• I didn’t see a “paste scaling” command, so I assume that “apply scaling” is the same thing.

 What seems to be happening is I’m scaling Ben first (without the clothing) to make him smaller, then when I load in the pants and shirt they are set for his original size, which is bigger, so the “conform to” command doesn’t seem to make the clothes shrink to fit his new smaller size. The clothing fit was actually closer when I used the “figure/height” command. Either way doesn’t seem to work. Even tried using “figure/height” command after putting the clothes on Ben, and selected  “adolescent” to make him smaller, then did the same for the shirt and pants. Then ran the wardrobe wizard script, but end up with the same result as you see in my first post.  Closer but the script didn’t seem to do anything to change it.

The Menu Item is for specific figures (Legacy Support for older Figures) This will not work with Ben, Will, Penny, etc....

I am not sure if the issue with Wardrobe Wizard was the use of that Command. I would follow PhilC's directions again using the default figure and the Dials to adjust.

Ratscloset, thank you for the reply.  I did not use the Figure menu command to scale the figure. PhilC’s first step says to “manually” scale the figure, so that’s what I did.  Unfortunately, I still could not get it to work. 

I was able to get the clothes properly scaled (to a point) using the following method, but I must be missing something, because strangely enough, even though the clothes stay conformed ok if I load a preset Ben pose from the library, when I manually move an arm or leg with one of the editing tools, the clothes will tear.  Here’s what I did step by step, any suggestions would be appreciated.

1. Loaded Poser 6 Ben figure, and used Figure>Zero Figure to put him in the default pose, arms outstretched.
2. Loaded Pants, TShirt, Left Shoe, and Right Shoe from Props Library
3. Selected Ben TShirt as current object, then Figure>Conform To….selected “Ben”
4.  Did the same for Pants and each Shoe.
5.  Selected Ben + Body as current object and changed the Scale parameter dial from 100% to 50%, then did the same for the rest of the clothes, all set to 50%

This method matched the clothing size pretty well, and after loading a preset pose from the pose library, the clothes stayed conformed with the figure. However, if the clothes “tear” if I “manually” grab an arm or leg to move it, I won’t be able to manually animate this character.
Will post pics of results below....

Thanks!

MM

However when I directly move Ben with the editing tools (manually), I get tears in the clothing, as seen below in the second screenshot (red arrow).

By pure chance I discovered one thing that helped when scaling Ben Smaller, and saved me a few steps.  For each piece of clothing I noticed two boxes in the Properties panel that were not checked. One is "Include morphs when conforming", the other is *"Include scales when conforming". *

I checked both of those boxes before conforming the clothing, and when I scaled Ben, the clothing automatically scaled too.  So, at least some progress being made here. Still getting some tearing when manually posing, but I'm reading about how to fix that now.

Couple of questions:

1. Anyone know where there might be some "conforming" clothing available for Ben and Kate ?  Seems there's only one set of casual wear included with PoserPro2010 for the kid's figures, basically jeans, Tshirt, sneakers. I don't need flashy clothes, casual clothes are fine, I just want to have a few to choose from.

2. Is there a simple way to add a picture or artwork onto a conforming T-Shirt?  It would most likely be a jpeg image I would be using.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you.

MM