Hello Englewolf and AgentSmith,

believe me that I would love to add more to the picture but Bryce 7 Pro crashes before it loads the entire file and that is just the 300 meg file. The same file will load correctly every time in 5.5 with no problem. In addition, this is not exclusive to this computer but to over 5 different computers.

There is a big memory problem with Bryce 7 Pro. I remember when Bryce 6 was in Beta and I tried to load one of my files and it would just lock up. I had to end the program in task manager in order to get Bryce to respond and that just shut the program down. I sent that file to DAZ for testing and they could not get the file to load either. However, that same file loaded every time in Bryce 5.5 so is it me or are we still dealing with a memory issue that no one really wants to address?

What is so different with Bryce 5.5 that they could not use some of the same coding to handle the memory issue that I see in 7 pro.

The bottom line, I want Bryce 7 to be all it can be but this issue still remains.

David

Attached Link: DAZ videos

   http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=144018      (or use attached link above) 

 Hope everyone is enjoying Bryce 7/ Bryce 7 Pro   :)

I'll tell you what David.  I'll find that BR4 or 5 I have that's over a gig, load it render it and I'll get back to you on how B7Pro handled it as far as loading, rendering, etc.  Also on other renders I've done to save time and resources in Bryce (and i know many others have done it) is put half your objects in a scene, render, save.  Then do the other part of your scene, then blend in Photoshop to look like the full render!   Setting priority to high in Bryce helps render times as much as 50-80% as multiple processors are utilized BUT it also may help in the loading and structuring in a scene too, but not much heard about that!  Let me find that file, i'll get back to you David.

I was watching the video on volumetric clouds at Daz in:
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=144018 

 it starts with an infinite slot with a volumetric cloud in it...  in the scene...  my question is what is he using..?   a cloud plane.. or something else.... ?  

The cloud plane does not behave as the tutorial's one does... little help here....

Well David, I won't be able to attempt to open the 1.5 gig BR5 file.  Bryce 7 Pro crashes on my 700meg and 800meg BR5 files that i tried first.  Funny that all those files loaded and rendered fine on my old AMD 1100 Mhz 1G ram system Win XP with Bryce 5 even though it took a day or two and the Harddrive was chattering like a denture factory in a snowstorm.  Now my dual core Pentium 64bit 4G ram WIN7 with Bryce 7 Pro can't even touch those files. Scratching my head?!?!?!

Tom, You can create an infinite plane, or an infinite slab. For the volumetrics, you need slabs. To create a slab, simply hold the mouse button for a second over the water or ground or cloud primitive on the create shelf. you will see options for surface or volume. Hope this helps.

EngleWolf, now you know how I feel, I cannot for the life of me figure out why Bryce still has this memory problem. They must be aware of the issue you would think. I am just surprised that this issue has not been resolved from the previous versions.

I would love to import some of my new models into 7 and see how it renders them. During the beta testing, I started trying to use some of the models I created in 5.5 but every time it crashed Bryce.

After that I decided not to waste time building modeling using 7 for fear that in the end I would not be able to even get the models to render not to mention all the time that it would take to create these ships.

On the average one of my spaceship project can take 2 to 3 months to create the model and to spend that amount of time not knowing if I could actually see the results made me rethink the whole project.

If I find out anything about this memory issue, I will post the results here.

Thanks for your time and effort,

David

You know Bam, this is the bad thing about boolean modeling, it uses a lot of extra polygons which drains on memory. Best of luck my friend!

*Quote - Tom, You can create an infinite plane, or an infinite slab. For the volumetrics, you need slabs. To create a slab, simply hold the mouse button for a second over the water or ground or cloud primitive on the create shelf. you will see options for surface or volume. Hope this helps.

Thank you...  I did try that but the slab was not behaving like in the tutorial..  Also he must have been working with some volumetric cloud file...  I can not find such a cloud in the contents...

Well since I have been talking to my ass in this thread :) I will buy Bryce Pro tomorrow and see about the volumetric clouds and trees.

Goido,
Forgive me, I actually intended to answer your question yesterday. The Volumetric clouds are an optimization of the tools that Bryce has always possessed. The trees are more or less the same. The branches are still too angular for my tastes, but at least the leaves are decent. Carrara trees are really the most effective around, so I am more or less betting on instancing and Carrara trees for a more realistic result. But Bryce trees if you happen to like them as many do, can be exported. But I find the feature is not completely accurate, it still presents a mesh very much like your original tree. I think this is an issue that will be ironed out eventually.

Thanks sir! I think the price is wonderful but I really wanted something similar to ecosystem in Vue, I don't care too much for the trees in Bryce and I don't have Carrara, I will still get Bryce though. I love the the interface and how easy is to get started.

Thanks again,

Andres

Actually I jsut saw your gallery, WOW! Great work on the trees, are those Bryce native?

Quote - > *Quote - Tom, You can create an infinite plane, or an infinite slab. For the volumetrics, you need slabs. To create a slab, simply hold the mouse button for a second over the water or ground or cloud primitive on the create shelf. you will see options for surface or volume. Hope this helps.

Thank you...  I did try that but the slab was not behaving like in the tutorial..  Also he must have been working with some volumetric cloud file...  I can not find such a cloud in the contents...

Try looking in the Pro Materials..(provided  from David Brinnen).There are some volumetrics there.

In fact the whole of the material provided right there in that section are terrific..

Incognitas.... Thank you...  I have see some stuff there too.. will check it out...

*Well since I have been talking to my ass in this thread :) I will buy Bryce Pro tomorrow and see about the volumetric clouds and trees.

I tried talking to my ass for years....  It's when it talks back that there is a problem....;)

Quote - Hey Rayraz.....  you can find what you are looking for in this thread at DAZ.....  Watch the volumetric clouds video....  They are all good really.....

   http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=144018      (or use attached link above) 

 Hope everyone is enjoying Bryce 7/ Bryce 7 Pro   :)

hey thanx! i wonder why they didnt hook that volume cloud video to the feature list.. 

Quote - > *Quote - Tom, You can create an infinite plane, or an infinite slab. For the volumetrics, you need slabs. To create a slab, simply hold the mouse button for a second over the water or ground or cloud primitive on the create shelf. you will see options for surface or volume. Hope this helps.

Thank you...  I did try that but the slab was not behaving like in the tutorial..  Also he must have been working with some volumetric cloud file...  I can not find such a cloud in the contents...

There is some content that comes with Bryce7Pro from David Brinnen - and one is the scene file for this tutorial, it's called...
"Free content scene to go with video tutorial modifying volumetric cloud materials 1.br7"

When B7Pro installed, this file and some other scene files was put into MyDocuments/Daz3D - it's possible yours will be similarly placed - but a search will find it wherever it's gone.  And you'll find the volumetric cloud slab in there with the material he used.

Also, if you hover your cursor over the cloud plane and hold down "Alt" before clicking on it - then you get a volumetric cloud slab and not a cloud plane. That's on a PC>  (Sorry, I don't know the equivalent to a PC's "Alt" on a mac)

Yup, a slab with a volumetric mat = the only way to go, imho.

**"I don't have Carrara"

- If you can ever lay your hands on "3DArtist" magazine #17, the disc in the mag carries Carrara 7 Pro, for free, the full program.

www.3dartistonline.com
**

The Flying Scotsman Project - yes, I'm still working on it - has 300 and 500mb files. They were a pain to load in 6 and 6.3. I'll try them in 7 now that it's on my puter, but I'm not too hopeful.

So I opened up Bryce 7 pro for the first time to have a little play. I created a sphere and applied a texture. Then went to create a terrain and it bloody crashed! Think I'll leave it alone until a few updates have been sorted. Glad it only ended up costing me £17 or I'd be joining in with the other unhappy campers over on the Daz forums.

Orbital,
Sorry to hear about that. I wonder what caused that problem?

Quote - Vile, Those renders are beyond sickening.Amazing and professional looking work!

 
Wow um thank you!  You should see what I am working on now, been spending too much time on Deviant art. But if anyone is interested. Proly port some work over here this week.

http://vileyonderboy.deviantart.com/

Those new ones were done on my full version of Bryce 7! Wah hoo!

If you're brave enough to download the full 2K render, click HERE.
(2.5mb) - You may have to right click and "save link as".

AS

Vile: Wonderful gallery! I like your approach.

AS: You are pretty much the next guy I'm going to push down the stairs! Amazing. Amazing generally, but even moreso when considering it is a Bryce terrain study. The light and reflections combined with the materials are really a bit too much, so down a flight of steps you shall go. Love it!!!!!!!!

Rashad? Make sure you don't damage his head. I've got a team waiting to disect his brain.

 Can i sell his tentacles on ebay to japanese fetishists?

Nice terrain work...

That's an attractive terrain AS!!!

Ok I bought Bryce Pro but I wanted to read a bit more before installing it. I was at the DAZ forums and it seems the bugs are too much for a lot of people, I am dying to try it but the crashes are very well documented. So I think I may install it  once the first patch comes along that seems is going to be soon. If I decide to installing, can I keep Bryce 5 on my computer or is it going to make Bryce more unstable? Also on my download I got a BryceContent-7.0.0.13-windows-installer and a BryceProContent_7.0.0.13_Win  what is the diffreence?

I know lots of experienced Brycers have work around the bugs so if the patch takes too long I will give it a try.

Andres

*Quote - Ok I bought Bryce Pro but I wanted to read a bit more before installing it. I was at the DAZ forums and it seems the bugs are too much for a lot of people, I am dying to try it but the crashes are very well documented. So I think I may install it  once the first patch comes along that seems is going to be soon. If I decide to installing, can I keep Bryce 5 on my computer or is it going to make Bryce more unstable? Also on my download I got a BryceContent-7.0.0.13-windows-installer and a BryceProContent_7.0.0.13_Win  what is the diffreence?

I know lots of experienced Brycers have work around the bugs so if the patch takes too long I will give it a try.

Andres*

It's not a Beta anymore you can install it if you like and play with it...   The crashes are not that  general... or sensitive,,,

Quote - Ok I bought Bryce Pro but I wanted to read a bit more before installing it. I was at the DAZ forums and it seems the bugs are too much for a lot of people, I am dying to try it but the crashes are very well documented. So I think I may install it  once the first patch comes along that seems is going to be soon. If I decide to installing, can I keep Bryce 5 on my computer or is it going to make Bryce more unstable? Also on my download I got a BryceContent-7.0.0.13-windows-installer and a BryceProContent_7.0.0.13_Win  what is the diffreence?

I know lots of experienced Brycers have work around the bugs so if the patch takes too long I will give it a try.

Andres

It's ok and I've finally worked out how to get the DS bridge to work..Some of the older purchased products such as skies and textures are a bit off in this version but the new textures more than make up for it..

I have 5,5.5,(I lost 6.1 somehow and can't restore it)and I have 6.3 as well as this pro version and I cannot say that it makes anything unstable(but then I do have 3 hard drives).

I have however moved this version off my C drive because I was losing too much space to Daz products and it works just fine..I guess you should be able to run both versions.

You need to run both of those because if you don't you won't have Bryce 7 Pro and you will miss out on some luverly new objects and textures if you don't install the content..

Okay, those two files;

The smaller one (around 17mb) will be all the default Bryce materials, skies, objects, trees, etc. So you really will want to install that one.

The larger one carries (around 466mb) has all the older legacy (old) mats, objects, etc, etc in it. Not needed, but you can install it if you want.

No, you do not have to install Lightning with only one computer.

Install on C or D, it does not affect either way. (it never has me, anyway)

AS

Thank you sir!!!

It would be great if the particles could take volume textures!  But I can see where that might be a rendering nightmare.

I see your Bryce-Fu is strong....;o)

Unfortunately that is Poser Fu.  I am still having problems with getting DS animation into Bryce 7.

While it may sound bittersweet, DAZ is pretty committed to squashing bugs in Bryce 7. So while there will be quite a few B7 updates coming down the road, at least they'll be coming, lol.

...and, perhaps some more, new toys. (fingers crossed)

Kirk

Aha!!!! I installed Bryce 7 Pro, beautiful program but in 2 minutes it crashed!! Ok, very esasy to reproduce. I went looking for some of my favorites mats from Bryce 5, I thought that by installing the older content they were going to be there, so I went to import and Bryce 5 and selected metals and import, they showed on my user gallery of presets and puff it crahed! It is reproducable. Is there a work around?

Ok three times is a charm I managed to import most of the stuff but it crashed again, it is ok, I got most of them.

I do not import my materials or objects.  What I do is create a folder under materials, let's say I name it UVDan materials.  Then I copy my materials from the older program versions to that folder.  This has worked for me from version six onwards.  I do the same for Obp files that I created in earlier programs.  With Obp's I have folders for aviation, special effects, animals, people, buildings, and ships.

Thanks!! I managed to get them all, it crashed a few times but I got them! I will try your approach on one big obp I got left.

This is two Tori Booleaned together using Intersect. One has a glass mat and the other, a shiny blue material.

The slightly larger, full sized render is HERE.

AS

Nice render AS...

well it does the job

Both are wonderful !!

Quote - Ok three times is a charm I managed to import most of the stuff but it crashed again, it is ok, I got most of them.

It's a bug.The work around is to close the preset library every time after you import an item or a material..Irritating but B7 won't crash and you won't lose your recent additions to the library either.