BRAVO!!! Yes!

Here something along those lines to. Prove that the dog mentioned previously isn't God. I am not joking. Prove he isn't God. Dog spelled backwards is... ooooo... God, right?

Seriously, since it cannot be proven, there is a chance that the dog is God, even if that chance is .0000000001% it is still a possibility. To say otherwise would be entirly unscientific. This is because no person REALLY KNOWS.

Hey coleman, whe are the only people here now.

The square root of -1 is a special number we call "i," and it is a member of a set of numbers called the imaginary numbers. The imaginary numbers are the set of all numbers that are the square root of negative numbers.

Why does science use 'imaginary' numbers?

Because ( I'm gonna whisper this for ya so they won't explode )... they have no effing clue just like religious folk

not even Gamma Correction can fix our not knowing what the hell is going on!!!!

This sh*t is scary and beyond the Poser forum to ever come to terms with let alone figure out how to make perfect lighting in every scene.

OK, now you're just showing off :)

Quote - In reference to a few post above, I have no problem with this post as long as everyone acts like adults. This has been an interesting post to read. Lets keep it that way.

Keep in mind everyone has different beliefs. Think before you type.  If this starts to get out of hand we will lock it.

perhaps you all missed this moderator post?

JenX Posted in a sticky a couple months ago that such posts are not permissible. That means it is a posted rule representing  the position of Renderosity about this sort of thing. It doesn't matter if one mod goes off the reservation. That sticky has not been pulled or diminished by the Administrator and therefore is an OFFICIAL POLICY STATEMENT. So, don't play dumb.

Apparently, you didn't even read the sticky link that I posted. Figures.

The problem is if I start an OT about how Islam is better than Christianity... after the mods here let a Christianity discussion go for 6 pages... now they're gonna shut that down right off?

I was a Christain and had non-stop migraines... then I became a Muslim and have not had a headache since...

Re-open the general discussion forum or be ready for numerous vague Mod judgments that will come back to haunt Osity.

this has about as much to do with christianity as you read into it. were talking about aliens visiting the earth 6000 years ago, not christ dying on the cross 2000 years ago....

I also did not compare my theory to a religion and say it is better, thats being rude

templargfx: Actualy, you did. you're just so caught up in your dialog that you don't realize it.

coleman: I agree. I think I will just jump ship and leave the forums. I don't need the headaches, either. It was nice chatting with you coleman, it's been a while.

'the bible is actually a translation'

You were talking about the Bible of Mars?

My bad - I am off base and will quit - sorry to run a string of nonsense here

It's all the nakid aliens in thumbnails I'm telling you!

In the end does it really matter? You can read all you want but everything still started out as that person's opinion, just like the opinions stated here. I am a Christian, no migraines here. Why would you attribute your migraines to Christianity? When you said that you negated anything you said before, sounds to me like you just wanted to get the fact that you are Muslim? I wish Rendo would create a forum that is unmoderated...let the dogs loose. If you don't want your feelings hurt don't go in. Whenever I see OT I'm curious how far people will go before they get slapped on the wrist and sent back to another forum. I don't think people realize how desperate they appear at times when trying to prove they are right. In the end we will all find out, but then it is too late to come back and say I told you so!  I wonder if that would be considered hell?  lol
Come in and flame me if you wish, I've unchecked notify since this thread has pretty much become a soapbox for one or two folks who insist on shoving their ideas down everyone's throat, and if you can't quote from their sources you are obviously not intelligent enough to even discuss it. Putting my popcorn down and going to make some coffee, got things to do.

Ralphie says he's not an alien, and never claimed to be one.  Deity, sure.

By the by, what is a "diety" anyway, some kinda mini-diet?  A fast fast?

Ralphie don't need to diet, he stays svelte eating whatever he wants.  Although the pup-peronis do go right to his hips.

Ralphie says ... life is too short, don't let yer shorts ride up on ya.

(P.S. - thanks for the "super-mocking" accolade.  I was going for a sort of goofy, humorous counterpoint to the grave pontification, but super-mocking, oh my !)

I dont know where the super mocking came from, but thats probably because thats the first post of yours I've bothered to read

Quote - I dont know where the super mocking came from, but thats probably because thats the first post of yours I've bothered to read

Quote - Hello everyone, hopefully after reading this, you don't think Im a complete nut-job!

My father, for many years has studied and researched facts behind religion, artifacts, writings, things like that. His studied took him to the first recorded advanced human civilisation, the Sumarians.

Don't feel bad, this is all I read of your posts.  When you misspell Sumerian right off the bat, you pretty much establish your credentials.

so you decided to troll a thread you didnt even read? but then again I can see why you chose trolling as your speciality on an art website....

Sorry to have derailed your most incisive exploration of alternative realities on an art website ...

Ralphie is sorry, too.

The worth of this art website is going to be severely compromised by threads as irrelevant and, more importantly, as confrontational as this one. And using the word irrelevant is putting it politely, as we're all expected to do here.

@ Klebnor: I thank whatever gods and aliens there are that you bothered to post here, and introduced a little bit of welcome levity into what would otherwise have been a load of complete ... um, sorry - gotta keep things polite! ps: Love the pooch pix!

Attached Link: www.godlikeproductions.com

What a sad thing to see that nearly everything since has been debate on whether the thread should even exist.

With fresh perspective, it probably shouldn't.  I could see a forum here for off-site topical discussions with link.

For example:  Interested in Ancient Aliens?  Follow Link.

No replies or futher discussion allowed here.

Just a suggestion.

Since we're still going, I  want to address the one part of topic that got talked about....the ancient sheet of glass.

One of the most sacred texts of Hinduism, Mahabharata, contains a very concise, detailed account of an ancient war in India.  At one point, a special arsenal is let loose.  The literal translation is "Missles".

When the missles strike the earth, a mushroom cloud is described, followed by people turning to ash where they stood.  Then, a foul wind blows with the air current, making everyone sick in it's path...their hair and teeth falling out and their skin blistering as they run to the river to try to wash it off of themselves.  Nothing grows for generations from these weapons, and mighty cities are left vacant.

The account very clearly describes nuclear weapons, not meteors. 

Now, in light of this, these sheets of glass around the ancient world, (Including Pakistan/India) should validate what is written and considered sacred by the folk from the area. 

Ralphie welcomes you to his ever growing family of devotees.

Are you any good with a poop scoop?

@ WTB - your post above is very much of interest to Killing Joke, one of my favourite bands.  One of their albums, "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" was inspired directly by the text you refer to.

I'm staying - ahem - 'open minded' regarding the sheets of glass and the explosions but it isn't hard to mimic the destructive force of a nuclear explosion with an asteroid strike.  Also, "missile" doesn't necessarily mean "self powered rocket/explosive device" in our language, nor, I suspect, in any other.  Has anyone measured the background radiation of these areas?  If there was a nuclear missile strike, the background should be a little higher than elsewhere.

 BTW, I'm not trying to discount/discredit the texts, just asking questions.

Sam -

the text in question:

**Gurkha,
flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.

Ancient verses from the Mahabharata: (6500 B.C.?)

** A quick glance, I can't turn up any specific radiation tests done on the glass sheet areas...however, I think I did read once that the radiation was higher.  Either way, I'm sure a Meteorite could bring radiation as well?  So as a benchmark, I'm not sure it's going to be very useful.

The text from the Mahabharata is pretty clear though, wouldn't you say?
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Quote - You could point it to being a Poser conversation but it will only get inflammatory.

When has anyone here experienced the feeling of the number zero?

No one here has. No one here can. Thus... religion... the need or desire of it.

Math can't answer everything afterall.

Zero is a make believe number used by science as a 'magic'... something it doesn't call a number but happily uses.

Science is a religion. It has prophets... Einstein and ( gasp ) Darwin. It has its own Creationism...the Big Bang...

but like religion it has unknowns... Dark Matter... while it laughs at Spiritualists thought of ghosts... Science creates its own 'reality' .... until the true cause is discovered.

But it relies solely on human detection... the five imperfect senses and our imperfect digital detection abilities.

How can one detect perfection with imperfect means?

Just like the 5 billion different interpretations of Jesus' belches can be argued ad nauseum and made to make Poser folks STOP POSTING HELPFUL POSTS because these explosive, emotional subjects scare them off from thinking this was a Poser forum.

bring back the general debate forum or squash these OT threads... I say

Sciences is not religion. It's a "Weltanschauung" ,a view on life .Also religion is a

view on life.But Science is no religion .for example: Scientists evolved rules for

tests in order to avoid ,that results are corupted by the expectations of those who

do the researchings.Unlike religion, science don't claim to know the absolute truth

(at least the serious among them )as often told , they speak of theories ,which means

that there are certain issues, that are not fully understood yet.Lots of those

theories have allready found their practial use in our daily life .They seems to work

allthough not completly understood.Look at Einstein's famous work of distorsion in

space and time , the theory  of  relativity for example.It actually find its use in

your navigation system that uses the gps.Timecode and locations of you and at least 3

satelites have to be syncronized by regarding Einstein' formulas, or else your

position can't be exactly located .Dark matter and big bang are theories that are

based on observations.Those Theories are the most possible apearing speculation, why

the universe looks to us as it appears, untill now. Never claiming "we've found the

ultimate truth now.That is of course  much to often unsatisfying and

frustrating.Scientists have to deal with that .Life is not a musical request

programm. Unlikly Science Religion needs faith.If you believe and it makes you feel

good , why not? But there is one problem I see .I bet in medieval times ,women who

were accused of being witches, wished they were judged by scientists instead of

believers . one thing : I aggree with your remark on imperfect senses , but what is

"perfect" ? I understand "perfect" as a complete aggreement with pregiven terms of

referencies.For example I want a poser ball prop ,that is mathematicly exactly a

sphere , here you are,done ,"PERFECT" .So what do you mean with "perfect"? So what

are those terms you are talking about ? about the Universe we are in here ? On whose

term ? On mine ? On yours ? After all being aware of our imperfect sense, we try to

build test assemblies , that can exlude our expectation ,our likes or dislikes and

delusions made by our imperfect senses , so that's why we try to be objective .

Thanks, WTB. 

Quote - JenX Posted in a sticky a couple months ago that such posts are not permissible. That means it is a posted rule representing  the position of Renderosity about this sort of thing. It doesn't matter if one mod goes off the reservation. That sticky has not been pulled or diminished by the Administrator and therefore is an OFFICIAL POLICY STATEMENT. So, don't play dumb.

Apparently, you didn't even read the sticky link that I posted. Figures.

Right it was. But I posted that it was fine to see if everyone to talk about such statements and act like adults. And seems like not.  shrugs   Because of policy, this thread is now locked.