But all of you use Poser for rendering ?

I think there are more powerfull software, can you help me ?

many thanks.

Poser has a good renderer if you work to learn it.

There are other applications , some free that people use to render in. All require some reworking of materials. Povray is one renderer which has a poseray converter for Poser.

There is now a Poser to luxrender script, luxrender being free.

Not ready for primetime just yet, but close ;o). Attached is an image I rendered with it a few versions back from where it is now...lol. There is one caveat: for now, LuxRender has no GPU rendering so it's slow, much slower than Firefly. However, GPU rendering is in development. Jump on over and check out some of the test images there :o).

Laurie

How much do you want to spend on a render engine ?  You have a choice between free and very expensive.  All of them will need a lot of work done on the materials though

I use the in-program Firefly engine for Poser most of the time, I also use Vue7 with SkinVue if I need something done that I can't get done in Poser.

Quote - If you want a decent render, you've gotta check out this thread

Not ready for primetime just yet, but close ;o). Attached is an image I rendered with it a few versions back from where it is now...lol. There is one caveat: for now, LuxRender has no GPU rendering so it's slow, much slower than Firefly. However, GPU rendering is in development. Jump on over and check out some of the test images there :o).

Laurie

Laurie, that is very nice!!
Well done.

Quote - If you want a decent render, you've gotta check out this thread

Not ready for primetime just yet, but close ;o). Attached is an image I rendered with it a few versions back from where it is now...lol. There is one caveat: for now, LuxRender has no GPU rendering so it's slow, much slower than Firefly. However, GPU rendering is in development. Jump on over and check out some of the test images there :o).

Laurie

Well done Laurie, I love the lighting, great trees too, is this out of poser??

It was set up in Poser but rendered in LuxRender while I was testing the exporter alpha bagginsbill, adp001 and odf are working on :o).

It's a free unbiased renderer with realistic lighting.

Laurie

 I use Poser for...well...posing, but Bryce (now 7 Pro) for rendering. I have for years. It's an inexpensive program with a good, solid render engine. I also like what it does with lighting and textures.

I've always used the Firefly rendering engine within Poser--I've found the default settings to be useless, but I get good results with a little playing around. POV-Ray does lovely renders, but I've never tried to export from Poser to POV-Ray (and I find working in POV-Ray to be a bit of a pain anyway). Laurie, that is a very nice image!

Yes I render with Poser.  

thank you to everyone.

the question a have made is to find better software to make rendering of Daz people (skin in important) inside indoor rooms.

What about again ?

many thanks

No, I only use Poser to get people into my scenes, I render in Vue 8.5 Infinite..

Bryce 7 is pretty darn good for rendering as well.

But Bryce 7 import Poser works to rendering ?

There's actually 2 ways to export Poser items to Bryce, you can either, export from Poser as OBJ files & import them into Bryce or you can install Daz Studio & get everything set up how you want then hit the "send to Bryce" option. There might be another way but I'm in Linux right now, Poser & Bryce are on my Windows partition.

Carrara will handle most DAZ and poser content and has excellent lighting and rendering.

Quote - Carrara will handle most DAZ and poser content and has excellent lighting and rendering.

Plus Carrara 7 was free in recent issues of 3D Artist and 3D World-check your local B&N...

Octane is also a good alternative if you want unbiased rendering.
 It's not free, but affordable (99 EUR while still in beta) and amazingly fast (purely GPU based).

Best regards,
  Michael
 

GPUs are over-rated and rendering apps are moving away from them.  Multi-core CPUs are where it's at now.  I just use Poser for clothing and posing and then export to other rendering apps.

Quote - GPUs are over-rated and rendering apps are moving away from them.

Citation Please as they say. I've not seen that in any trade papers etc... where have you seen it?

Quote - GPUs are over-rated and rendering apps are moving away from them.  Multi-core CPUs are where it's at now.  I just use Poser for clothing and posing and then export to other rendering apps.

Try to beat this with CPU's:  [http://octanerender.com/cubix.html

](http://octanerender.com/cubix.html)

Simple: try to render anything that doesn't fit in GPU memory.

 Getting data to and from the GPU efficiently is a big challenge. In CPU rendering, it's quite common to load and unload textures on demand in order to be able to render tens of GBs of textures using just a couple hundred or even dozen MB of RAM. To my knowledge, nothing like that exists for GPU rendering (yet).

Quote - > Quote - GPUs are over-rated and rendering apps are moving away from them.

Citation Please as they say. I've not seen that in any trade papers etc... where have you seen it?

Here's one.
http://www.luxology.com/tv/training/view.aspx?id=536

Quote - Simple: try to render anything that doesn't fit in GPU memory. 

Or try to render just simple displacement on a GPU.

got anything thats not video please? call me a luddite but I prefer to read...

You think that a GPU is the same as a CPU and that they can run the same code.  You just keep on thinking that then.

erm no
I know they are different. don't start an arguement with me please. I just asked for more information. thats all.

There's reading in the video if that helps.  I'm guessing you weren't at SIGGRAPH when this all came about.

I wasn't lucky enough to be hence me asking. as to the video I'm not in a location to watch it thats why I asked for reading matter.

but thanks anyway.

GPU rendering is still very very new. But I for one have jumped on the GPU train and I don't think I could ever go back to the slow CPU again.

I use either Poser's render engine, ZBrush's render engine or Modo's render engine (or a combination of those). Ultimately, you have to find what works for you within your price range. 

Quote - I use either Poser's render engine, ZBrush's render engine or Modo's render engine (or a combination of those). Ultimately, you have to find what works for you within your price range. 

Teyon,
Are you using a combination of them for any SSS skin rendering?  Or do you get by using one of them most of the time?

Quote - I wasn't lucky enough to be hence me asking. as to the video I'm not in a location to watch it thats why I asked for reading matter.

but thanks anyway.

No prob.  I can't watch the vid either where I'm at.  Dial-up.

Hmmm . . .
I use Poser (very rarely these days,) Vue or MentalRay.
I haven't got round to playing with the new ZBrush render engine yet

I get by using one for the most part. Sometimes, I want a certain effect or look that one does better than the other, so I'll do render passes and composite the images. Modo's render engine is super fast and handles SSS very well, so I'm using that alot more now.

Just as an example - Poser's OpenGL preview render engine is actually really good for getting a toon look quickly that I can enhance with a line art render from ZBrush and then use modo for special effects/glows and what not that may take longer to do in post.  Then I composite that all together to get a nice look in the final image.

Quote - But all of you use Poser for rendering ?

I think there are more powerfull software, can you help me ?

many thanks.

If you have the money and a lot of patience, I'd recommend rendering your Poser figures in Vue Infinite using the SkinVue plugin to get some pretty good skin rendering (along with some plant life).

For Poser and Daz characters, I like what Poser renders so I will save the rendering as a .tif and export it to Vue.  In Vue, I make a billboard and put it there along with its mask.  Then I adjust Vue's lighting to match that of the figure.  Works great and you can put many figures into Vue as billboards and it won't bog down the computer.  The finished rendering doesn't look too bad.  Jan

I've used Poser's Firefly and 3ds Max.

I'd like to see some Bryce 7 renders of Poser figures that look pretty good.

One Poser figure I can say with certainty that looks better in Bryce7 than Poser is that cat shaped robot Sak-Ex I think it's called. SanctumArt made it.

Ok.  I thought you were talking about human figures with skin.

Quote - You think that a GPU is the same as a CPU and that they can run the same code.  You just keep on thinking that then.

They are both processors, just architecturally different because of the different roles they are designed and intended for.
Obviously the same code is not going to run on them in the same way that the same code for different CPU architectures wouldn't run on the another.

If the code is written to take advantage of GPUs then, because of the huge parallel pipeline processing advantage current GPUs have over current mainstream CPUs, then they would have an advantage because that sort of processing architecture suits rendering.

Quote - They are both processors, just architecturally different because of the different roles they are designed and intended for.
Obviously the same code is not going to run on them in the same way that the same code for different CPU architectures wouldn't run on the another.

If the code is written to take advantage of GPUs then, because of the huge parallel pipeline processing advantage current GPUs have over current mainstream CPUs, then they would have an advantage because that sort of processing architecture suits rendering.

We can agree to disagree there.

While definitely NOT cheap, I don't believe anyone has mentioned Cinema4D yet...still my favorite renderer (among the many other things it can do!)

This is an old DAZ scene sent to Lux with no setup except moving the camera. (No postwork either)

Quote -  I use Poser for...well...posing, but Bryce (now 7 Pro) for rendering. I have for years. It's an inexpensive program with a good, solid render engine. I also like what it does with lighting and textures.

I do the same thing and have been doing it for years.  I export Poser scenes/figures as OBJ files and import them into Bryce.  I don't bother with DAZ Studio.  All my frequently used texture maps are saved as materials in Bryce so retexturing the objects is very easy.

*This is an old DAZ scene sent to Lux with no setup except moving the camera. (No postwork either)

The faceted look of the edge of the shadow along boundary of the hip and waist suggests that the model needs better smoothing.