There is always again this problem of realistic looking fire in Vue.

What do you think about the fire in this picture, rendered in supirior mode, 72dpi?

The fire material is an eco-system. Please note: The picture and the mats and vob are made in Vue 8 Complete!

Bernie

Attached Link: The campfire.vob

The vob is group of the objects and a point light.

I love the glowing embers on the logs. The flames however are to solid. Fire is a plasma state of matter (part gas, part liquid) and so tends to be more ethereal. Good work though.

I use Poser fire in Vue, looks much better and I will also use post for it too..

I actually use the flames from a DM prop usually.  Set the luminosity up a bit, add a point light et voila !

An example of a render I will most likely rework the fire in one day.

@ tsquare: Oh, I think your fire looks much better - not that X-mas kitchy like mine - LOL!

Might want to consider using photoshop to blend a combination of fire layers such the following product:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=66610&keyword=flames

Then output it as a .png with a transparent background.  Then import it into Vue onto an alpha plane so the flames stand out with the transparent background allowing you to still see things somewhat behind them.

The best i ever achieved with fire in Vue is by using an alpha plane that projects a fire. I started with placing some rocks in a circle, adding lots of thin branches in the middle and than placing the alpha plane on it.

I also added a lot of cubes (!) which i used for sparks that are flying above the fire (as you would see on a real fire) and i thinks it adds a lot of reality to it.

This image whas never finished and i think i can search for a better flame to project on the alpha plane, but the reason i post the image is to contribute to this forum to let us all build a better fire :-)

Sorry for the low quality of the render (preview render)

Oh almost forgot to mention that i made the materials glow on the cubes :-)

Thanks Bernie!

ooo... I like that Sirenia!

That looks really good sirenia, nice job..

This pic:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1778138&user_id=7541&np&np

I made using an Alpha plane for the fire, with a light source near it, custom set up so it would work right (lot of tweaks need done ot get lights to work best at times)

The flames used a "fire" .psd I'd bought, think from Rendo store ages ago, one of a pack of many fire images with transparency,needed to tweak it though as the transparency wasn't set right (can be done in Photoshop, or using a filter in Vue itself to boost the clipping of the transparency)

I made a custom material for the sword to make it look "molten" on the edges

a mixed material, using original sword blade (which I'd tweaked anyway as I usually do wiith Poser imports)

then, I made a UV map of the sword blade, taking that, I made a mask for driving the distribution function of the Mixed Material, so the edge would have the firey material I made.
I.E, the mask was a black and white image, black being the parts of the blade I wished ot be molten.

:)

Also, you can use Wabe's "Fire Bugs" which is an ecosystem fire effect, or Monsoon's "Fire" pack, both of which I have and are excellent :)

it all depends on what you wish to ACHIEVE, as "fire" can be many things. I've also made fire in postwork, using plugins in Photoshop

Eye Candy has a fire filter, I have a free version of 3.1 but can't remember if it's on that, but I bought Textures, Nature and..oh forget name of other pack they have, "Fire" is in one of them...alas my art PC is dead so I can't check, sigh

Alternatively you can try "Particle Illusion", again I have it and it's VERY damn good :)

AND, you could make such fire effects using Photoshop or Particle Illusion, as a .psd or .png or .tif, and import into Vue as alpha planes! ;)

There's also a "fire" video in the tutirials of Vue, or was, that I've often used as well on a "billboard".

My work though is usually "stlyistic", not "photorealism". Can't explain it easily but I'm less concerned with 100% realism, mroe about "looking good for my taste/style"

My first attempt at fire in 3D, 10 years?? ago or so in Bryce, using a custom bryce material I made
http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/artofadreamer/3d/orcsfortfireball.jpg

Few years later, made this in postwork, Paint Shop Pro and a "photoshop" plugin, then used hand painting etc to work it, I painted in the ogre's skirt and cloak, fyi ;) lol barley knew how ot work Poser back then

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/artofadreamer/3d/ogre1.jpg

Bit later, this fire elemental is again a custom bryce material

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/artofadreamer/3d_2/redorious3.jpg

First fiery material I made in Vue

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/vue1/the_duel1a.jpg

First "proper" fire I did in Vue, using alpha plane:

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/vue1/alfred_6.jpg
http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/vue1/alfred_hdr1.jpg

Suign a "fire" mat in Bryce years ago, I changed it to make plasma...I dod the sma ein Vue, now for , scifi and fantasy effects

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/artofadreamer/3d/mech2_large.jpg

Cue cene with plasma

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/vue1/gunwing6.jpg

this isn't fire but is shown as examples, but using Brushes photoshop and Layer Styles/effects you cna make fiery/smoke effects

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/fantasy_2009/call_of_yeenoghu.jpg
http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/fantasy_2010/forest_war_goblin_shaman2.jpg

Voronoi functions cna be used ot make nice fire

Wow,  a bunch of nice links!  Thanks!

Tsquare,

my pleasure! :)

and sorry about the typos, sigh.