Sence bwtween all of us here we use all the CGI apps.
Thought this would be the best place to ask.
I need to covert renders in to a 2D looking painting ,cartoon jpg.
So a Render will look something like these

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2150100

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2069860&recent_upload&user_id=48237&member

I use gimp it's kool but can't get the effect I want out of it.

I've googled but realy haven gotten any where.

So thouhgt I would ask you all for some recommendations.

Thanks a lot for anty and all help :)

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2144785&section_id=&genre_id=20&page=5&np

PostWorkShop does a lot of stuff.

Your kinks need fixing.

The first looks hand drawn. The lines added. The single tone fill with darker shade airbrush for shadow and the white airbrushed for highlights.

So You could. Make your outlines using the vert pen/Paths tool. Fill it in and do the shadow/highlight airbrushings.

I also thought that Gimp could use PS filters. But also had edge detect, combined with other filters to give that effect. Using a duplicate layer set to gel/luminosity or what ever to get a toon look can also work. A combination of it all.

Quote - in addition to the above (links don't work), I am interested to see if anybody knows how to use 3d apps to get the professional inking and coloring like in the ones that sean posts here and at DA.  my guess is that it's impossible, but maybe somebody knows something.

In a nutshell you cant do "Sean E's" type of image in a 3Drender program not even C4D Sketch&Toon( Which I have)
that stuff is Drawn& inked ,perhaps with Wacom pen/tablet in Photoshop but still "hand Drawn"

Cheers

http://www.postworkshop.net/ looks kool half to test it out.

What photoshop filters would we need ? and where do ya just get photoshop filters ?
I tested the gimp filters thay have a lot of stuff but just not what I am looking for.

Miss Nassy
As a general rule these are hand drawn never seen CGI copy this stye perfectly

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2144785&section_id=&genre_id=20&page=5&np

but cgi can make some good looking painting style renders just dont know how thay do it yet but we will find out :)

I've got some Illustrator tutorials from Lynda.com done by  Bert Monroy that shows how to do this in Illustrator, done very nicely too. You could do the same in Photoshop using the pen tool.

Filterforge can do a great job at this.

You should really check out PostworkShop...it's the bomb.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2114010

Bad News: I forgot how. :( 

Quote - Good News: I have done it in the past. See link.

Bad News: I forgot how. :( 

Gimp ... Filtters/Artistic/Photocopy

Will turn any photo in to a B/W outline like that
how good it turns out depends on the showdows in the photo

I've tried in the past to get a painted look from poser, this is my attempt at the 50's style pin up look on the skin http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2085742&user_id=371706&np&np  the download is free in my freebie section, be careful though as the side view tends to diminish the brows, (need to look at it again at somepoint)

Also I had a 'get tooned' pack out which was for poser and photoshop, you get this look http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2053537&user_id=371706&np&np in colour and this in bw http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1414584&user_id=371706&np&np   I'm thinking of releasing the pack in freebies (reduced down in size and a few bits taken out as it was a purchable pack in the past)

That will be great to release the toon pack. Very high quality and heart warming!

I just downloaded the pinup look thanks alot.

I googled photoshop filters and found tons of them. Which also led to cartooning tutorials. Not one was the look your looking for.

Me, I would import the image into animeStudio or Toonboom to ink because of the inking line controls and fill there then move to a paint app and finish the air brushing there. I tend to use more than one software for everything I do. That would give that hand drawn look. Which BTW is a good way for me as I still can't draw my way out of a wet paper bag with a sharp pencil.

So try the paths pen, fill, airbrush. Edge detect on a duplicate can help with your inking. Trace over what you want with path tool combined with erasing what you don't want.

Or change the style of toon and go the way others are showing or what you normally see done with DS, Poser, other rendering software.

virtual Photographer is a nice plugin that works with Paint Shop Pro.  It's been around for a while but I post the link here anyway.

http://www.optikvervelabs.com/

Best Wishes,
Rªnce

Xero has some nice/free photoshop filters.
http://www.xero-graphics.co.uk/freeware.htm

Ockham's Z-Flatten might help if you're using a version earlier than P8

 the basic linework can be generated by the poser edge-blend node plugged into the ambient channel, then augmented in APS with the pen tool and paths.  poser itself can do dramatic shading and coloring, almost as good as a pro artist, but the differences are easy to spot.  if it's a pro colorist with 10 yrs experience, no need for poser shading, but anybody still learning how to draw or paint should leave the shading to poser IMVHO.

Still, using poser to shade does nothing to get you the look that RorrKonn was looking for as posted in original post.

As someone who does not draw very well, I disagree with leaving the shading to poser. I do quite fine without using poser.

It really does depend on what style you are going for as to what software can and can't do. I still have not seen any filter or poser toon render that does the first post style.

Maybe this will help,  I can't see the images you linked to so I dont know what the result you want is, just guessing :)

http://www.3dluvr.com/rogueldr/tutorials/toon_ink/toon_ink.html

with baroody's tutorial in prev. msg., is possible to use poser fall-off shader for both lines and color.  clean-up/modify in APS for desired shading fx.

Still does not look the same as the first image posted. But interesting look.

Thanks a lot for all the idea's and links there great ,keep them coming I am learning a lot

The links work for me ,but if thay don't work for you

you could allways click on my skull avatar or homepage link to the left n go to my gallery

Diamond_006 She's a Cartoon looking Female with blue hair
Diamond_005 She's a Cartoon looking Female with purplish hair

Postwork & Filter Forge reminds me of  http://www.darksim.com/ DarkTree is a lot of fun.

zbrush has a lot of killer shaders effects.Don't know how feasible it would be to use Zbrush thow.

http://www.topazlabs.com/ like a lot ,fast ,easy helps a lot.

Don't know if it works with gimp ,but it works with photoshop elements & http://www.irfanview.com/ :)

I am a fan of SeanE and the hand drawn comics styles 
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?user_id=23561

For a solo artist to hand draw comics like Diamond 005 ,006 takes to long ,a week a page is just not feasible but with renderosity and some killer fillters we might just get some kool comics :)

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1934810&username=12rounds&member&np

If that kind of illustrative style suits your needs, I could give a short tour of my process (been pretty much the same for a few years now after I came up with it).

Quote - I've been doing illustrations like the one linked for a long time and (rarely) I also upload this stuff to my gallery here. Using Poser renders and postworked with Photoshop. Drawing tablet is essential.

If that kind of illustrative style suits your needs, I could give a short tour of my process (been pretty much the same for a few years now after I came up with it).

Kool stuff ,Thanks for the offer But I could tell ya how to get that look with about all the app's listed here ,there kool apps. I am trying to stay a way from drawing by hand as much as possable just takes to long.I can't use a tablet ya can probably tell I made Diamond 5/6 with a mouse.

Attached Link: http://www.fotosketcher.com/blog.htm

yeah, I agree with bevans84. after looking at OP's drawings, easy way to eliminate surface detail and get it flat like those is to use snowsultan's z-flattening.  poser render is gonna leave in too much realistic detail unless the model is z-flattened IMVHO.

But as I said before. It really depends on what look your going for. There is also the poser sketch that you can use as another layer.

MagunsGreel fotoshether is kool

Tashar59 What I am lookoing for is a very fast very inexpensive way to make Wicked kool comic books , Yes ,I realize all the oxymorons in that sentance.But I believe in Magic :)

Definitely try the Sketch settings instead of Firefly and learn what you can do there before messing around with other apps... it can do more than you may guess.

have seen tashar's toon render before (it's very nice IMVHO).  hopefully OP will be able to select one of these methods for his toons.

This was a 1990's Pencial Drawing that we CGI'ed with some fillters,
Let me know what you think.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2157002&np

 RorrKonn

If the links do not work you can all ways click on the avatar Skull to you left it's called "Hells Fury"

U need to  describe Ur end production application  ( as opposed to development "application") so's people can understand what  Ur looking for  b/c  with the limited details U supplied I wood say  PS.

I still say filterforge because with it and a little learning and playing you can create a filter to get pretty close to the look your going for.

Santicor want to know what all filters will convert a render in to a kool comic.

Onnetz filter foge is magic.

No comments about Hells Fury, humm
If you like it kool.
If you hate it thats kool also.
What do you like and and or hate about it.

We need input ,Thanks.

here's a case where OP appears to want honest appraisals, which is refreshing IMVHO.  I liked the blue flame covering the hands. it would make a good tattoo with some simplification and clean-up. I didn't think it was a professional-looking toon because:

• overall style is primitive, done in isolation from others (no professional training nor art school)
• too symmetrical
• edges rough, machine-generated
• inner details blurred or tentative, afterthought, machine-generated
• awkward poser4-style kneeling pose with knees off the ground but toes touching
•  breast-lines and nipple positions like that are what we always see in primitive (unschooled) nude drawings of girls
• it appears to be a female but it also seems to have a beard
• no background, foreground (unless it's sposeta be a tattoo, in which case none needed)

A lot of people have said my stuff looks tatooish

Hopefully it not to far from tatoos to comics.

I would guess the comics are going to look CGI generated but hopefully profesional looking.

There going to half to look good, some how.

I will work on all the Critics.
I realy do appreciate people taking time for Critics.

 Heres Battle Skull
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2157330

If the links do not work you can all ways click on the avatar Skull to your left

Let me know if you like it or hate it and or why
Thanks

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If I delete everything before the http: it will work.

I'm trying to dig my drive out from last storm. 3 to 6 foot drifts. Does not leave much time or energy at the end of the day. It will still take at least another 6 days to get it done.

First image. really needs cleaning up. Style looks OK.

The second, not sure what your going for. You say you want to do toon/comics but I'm not seeing that in your work. The images are nice effects but untill you do a scene, I can't really comment on it. Though the skull might look better with the eyes black also. But that is a personal choice.

my vote for skull would be red glowing eyes with IDL fx.  unless that's a displacement map. snowstorms, floods, birds falling out of sky - it's a total bummer IMVHO.  I hope everybody gets thru it o.k.

Here is another product you might want to look at

http://www.runtimedna.com/ART-MATERIALS-Vol.1-Cartoon-Shaders.html

It uses the material room and you have full control over all aspects from line width to shading to colors.

Quote - my vote for skull would be red glowing eyes with IDL fx.  unless that's a displacement map. snowstorms, floods, birds falling out of sky - it's a total bummer IMVHO.  I hope everybody gets thru it o.k.

LOL. I thought of that too. Red eyes.

yes estherau............  swimmin  poses thanks for the thought

"here's to  swimmin  with bowlegged wimmin"

• Quint

icprncss2 .kool

estherau .nice render ,might we sugest bubbles ;) I realy need Vue !!!

There's a lot of Battle Skull fillters versions including cartoons.

Been terrorising the filters to no end with old pics of mine :)

Just thought the one I Posted was kool.

Had no idea what was even posable when I stated this thread ,filters can merge 2D n 3D really well.

But I am starting to see the possibilities !!!

Realy think with merchant materails & filters a comic book / graphic novel is possable.

At thiis point this all very much post prodution.
Complet sceens ah 04.01.2011.

Half to ,1.Write script ,2.Stock run time ,3.Get work flow down

,4 ect ,5 ect.

I usually use (not in that example above though which is straight out 3D render) a combo of toon rendering using a script either shaderworks or D3D and then I add a postwork filter as well.

Love esther