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Subject: Parenting hands to other figures problem?


tvining ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 11:10 AM · edited Tue, 04 February 2025 at 8:46 AM

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I am trying to Parent the hands of two figures to parts of the other figure's body using IK & Parent, so that when one or the other figure animates, the Parented hand moves with its assigned body part. In this case, the left hand of Figure 1 (on the left) is Parented to the shoulder of Figure 2 (on the right), and the right hand of Figure 2 is parented to the shoulder of Figure 1.

The problem I'm having is that when I change the pose of Figure 1, the head and parented shoulder of Figure 2 stay frozen in place (see picture), and the same happens to Figure 1 if I change the pose of Figure 2.

If I turn IK off, the problem resolves itself (more or less, see 2nd picture), but then I've lost the ability to further edit the animation, since turning IK on again screws up the hands. Anybody else seen this problem? Better yet, anybody solved it??  ;-)


hborre ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 12:25 PM

IK would not help under these circumstances.  IK specifically "locks" hands and feets in place, and allows other children body parts to move and respond naturally to that situation.  A good example is applying IK to hands on a model hanging from a wall or branch.  In your particular case, you want one model to respond another models movement.  Parenting would serve you better.  But, however, applying IK to feet would anchor one model while it responds to the movement of another in a parenting situation.  I have no experience in animation, someone else better qualified may have a better solution.


wolf359 ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 12:48 PM · edited Mon, 17 January 2011 at 12:49 PM

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Hi Tim Parent a prop to the desired area of  the "grabee's" body ***(prop later to be made invisible)***

Turn on IK of the "Grabbers" hand and change the hand's parent to the prop.

move/animate  the "grabee"
and the "grabber's" hand should Follow.

Not the  most elegant solution and you still may have to fix the hand position in the graph editor depending on how much movement is involved,
but  thats all I can Come up with barring some amazing python script to do it.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 12:48 PM
wolf359 ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 12:48 PM
tvining ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 2:29 PM

Thanks, HBorre & Wolf.

I'm only using IK because you have to have that on to parent a hand to another object, as far as I know. If there is a way to parent without IK that might work, but the only non-IK parenting I'm aware of is parenting a whole figure.

Wolf, I did try that, and it works to parent Figure 1 to a ball on Figure 2, but unfortunately once you do the same thing with Figure 2 to figure 1, you get the same problem. I guess it seems like Poser can deal with one figure holding to another, but not both figures holding to each other.


durf ( ) posted Mon, 17 January 2011 at 10:12 PM · edited Mon, 17 January 2011 at 10:14 PM

ah same problem as in dazstudio.

 

Parenting between 2 figures and animateor

 

or another example 

this is very big problem for people that like to do animations, ps for poser developers

(solve this problem in the next releases, poser software needs to grow up)

for all the people that would like to start with animation


SimonWM ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 6:56 AM · edited Fri, 18 March 2011 at 6:57 AM

Parenting between two figures to do what al the above posts attempt to do has been my wish for Poser & DAZ Studio since Poser 6.


SteveJax ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 11:56 AM

Ockham has a python script called Follow.py that appears to do something like this.

 


tvining ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 12:05 PM

Do you know where to find "Follow.py"? It doesn't appear to be on his site with the other scripts.


SteveJax ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 1:28 PM

I'd try sending him a message via sitemail. I have it in my runtime but don't have the orginal distribution zip handy.


tvining ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 1:29 PM

Great--thanks!


Rance01 ( ) posted Fri, 18 March 2011 at 6:48 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=1920453&page1

This thread may help as well.

Best Wishes,
Rªnce


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