Yep, it's definitely a self-perpetuating thing.  The overwhelming amount of support creates a classic chicken-or-egg-first  scenario.  There is some intrinsic quality to the model, though, I believe.

The only thing about V4 that really jumps out at me as looking unnatural is the joints.  The worst of them iis the infamous shoulder crease, which Corvas has done an excellent job of correcting, while the less noticeable elbow and knee creases only show up at sharp angles and can usually be postworked out with ease. 

As a couple of nitpicks, her waist is a bit dainty for my tastes, and it's true that her default face isn't attractive at all, but the myriad of moprhs available for her make those issues easy to mitigate as well.  Plus, the rather blah face increases versatility by serving as a common base that works well enough both for those droves of artists who aim for beauty and those few who want to highlight more ordinary or even ugly looks.  I took a similar approach to my transgender base utilities.  Victor for V4, while hopefully masculine enough to be convincing, is intentionally slim because it's much easier to beef up a wimp than to do a muscular liposuction on an already buff figure (coughMike 4cough).  Michelle for M4 is curvy, but not so much that you can't shape her into a more neutral shape if it serves your needs.

I'm sure versatility plays its part too.  I entered the Poser/Daz community with P6 and V3, so the only other figure I've dealt with any more than brief dabbles is Jessie, and I remember that she was quite difficult to morph into anything really unique.

if you like scarecrow figurines, I guess she's made to order!

Even with just the base morphs loaded, V4 is capable of a lovely open smile. There are many free face morphs available for her, and if you add purchased morphs she becomes very expressive indeed. For me, a figure has to be able to produce a natural-looking smile without a lot of fuss. With V4 you can get that without spending any money. That is the greatest shortcoming of the early Poser figures. Up to the G2 figures, they just don't smile very well. Original Vicky already overcame that. Posette, Judy and P6 Jessi don't have natural looking smiles, and no amount of re-mapping can fix that. To an extent you can improve the smile with additional morphs on Judy (Eternal Judy) and Jessi (Ultimate Head Morphs), but it is just too difficult to get a reasonable smile out of Posette, even with the additional morphs included in PosetteV3. Perhaps I don't have the skill or the patience. But for the purpose for which I use Poser, I need to be able to just dial a smile, and it must look friendly, real and engaging. The G2 figures smile beautifully, as does Alyson and her sisters. All the Daz figures come with a good smile. I appreciate that.

V4 is a great figure. But, she is way over used.

I like Vicky cause she talks to me! But really- it is in the support.

If you want to see the limits of the unimesh just check out the Reby Sky threads on the Daz Forum. All the efforts and 3D scans- and they could not quite get the shape of Reby's face right. Pretty close-but not quite. I read that it was the process of making it work within the limits of the unimesh.

I think they came up with a great package- but it could be improved for a closer shape match.

 Not enough polys?

There is a free face  morph for V4 of Reby Sky on Sharecg, called 'Rebel Girl' I believe.  In many ways it is closer in facial structure than the daz, oh so fancy 3D scans version, and it was done with the daz studio deformers.  Sometimes it is just the eye of the person making the morph.

Quote - Of course, for those of us who LIKE the Daz figures, it's all gravy. And I doubt I'm the only one who really does LIKE them!

No, I like them too, they do have their issues, but from what I've seen, it's not hard to overcome.  I've had her head come out a bit too big with certain morphs, just scale it down a touch.  The simple details that is sold here at Rendo makes a huge, huge difference in her shoulders (another concern) and I think I saw a morph to help the toes a bit.  I've actually post worked on mine a couple of times the knee bend and the toes.  

Her wardrobe is vast, her morphs extrem - tons of body shape options,check out size of a woman, even creature morphs.. morphia, international faces from DAZ, and RDNA has some morph packages to add on as do others.  Lots of textures from some fine artists for skin, makeup and tattoos.  

I do like the way Mik3i looks, but so far most of the morphs I've seen are Asian in appearance and I wonder if she can be morphed into a more European or African look?  At any rate, if I got her, I'd have to collect a new wardrobe or hope a clothes converter did well between them.  I've heard some problems with the different jointing when clothes are converted, but I'll have to try it.

Wow, I type a lot in the mornings. :(

Delaney

Quote - There is a free face  morph for V4 of Reby Sky on Sharecg, called 'Rebel Girl' I believe.  In many ways it is closer in facial structure than the daz, oh so fancy 3D scans version, and it was done with the daz studio deformers.  Sometimes it is just the eye of the person making the morph.

Yes, I love Aki3's morph to look like Reby.  The Daz one is faintly creepy to me in some pictures.  I know they had a non final version that was released, but still the final one is a little odd.  I really think it's the nose and mouth is just off enough that it looks strange.  Aki3's is much closer, but she does beautiful face morphs, period, many that don't even need Morphs++

Delaney

Quote - if you like scarecrow figurines, I guess she's made to order!

DP, you can apply many morphs to her, there are some lovely Junoesque (sp?) figures out there, reciecup has one in her sets here and I've done a rather lush one in my piece, 'Thorns'  that has more of a tummy and hips.  And I did it with just Morphs ++ and V4.  

And how much do the Morphs ++ cost?

Posette comes FREE!

And she has a Junoesque figure to begin with!

Morphs++ are not expensive for what they do. There are quite a few free faces out there that don't require Morphs++ at all, and there are alternative body morphs like the ones by Adamthwaites.

DPH adores Posette. He loves her unconditionally. He is her knight in shining armour. He doesn't mind if she never smiles.  He'll forgive her everything.

I'll use whatever figure suits my purpose at the time.

Quote - Morphs++ are not expensive for what they do. There are quite a few free faces out there that don't require Morphs++ at all, and there are alternative body morphs like the ones by Adamthwaites.

DPH adores Posette. He loves her unconditionally. He is her knight in shining armour. He doesn't mind if she never smiles.  He'll forgive her everything.

I'll use whatever figure suits my purpose at the time.

Yes, I agree, here.  I might play with Posette just to see for myself.  I just know that I appreciate V4 for what she is and does and of course all the stuff in my runtime goes with her, lol.  

I don't mind spending a little bit of money for the morphs, I got them on sale - Daz always has sales, coupons, etc.

So it boils down to the simple fact that the ONLY reason to prefer V4 over Posette is because V4 can produce a more natural smile than Posette?  That's a pretty lean reason, slim compared to all the things she can't do, but Posette can! (Such as look like a real woman right out of the box!!!)

Quote - So it boils down to the simple fact that the ONLY reason to prefer V4 over Posette is because V4 can produce a more natural smile than Posette?  That's a pretty lean reason, slim compared to all the things she can't do, but Posette can! (Such as look like a real woman right out of the box!!!)

But smiles and expressions are very important to the mood of a piece.  Don't you think?

Is this the one  you are working with, DP?  

http://poserpros.daz3d.com/store/viewitem.php?selitem=4720

Says built off the daz unimesh on the advertisement? or maybe it just takes morphs from V3.  I don't see anything about the nudes that blow me away here, but perhaps you are having better results since you play with her more.  All I see posted of Posette is clothed figures, can you post a few nudes with morphs to look at?

Quote - So it boils down to the simple fact that the ONLY reason to prefer V4 over Posette is because V4 can produce a more natural smile than Posette?  That's a pretty lean reason, slim compared to all the things she can't do, but Posette can! (Such as look like a real woman right out of the box!!!)

I still use Posette on occasion, but primarily as a background figure. By the way, DP, wasn't Posette a Zygote model? Which technically means that 's Vicki's older sister?

I wanna bet.
You may use whatever model you like? OK?

Make me something, anything, I can not make with the PoserPro male or female, and anim8or to morph the hell out of them :-).

A mesh, is just a wireframe to hang the texture on.

Nothing, more, nothing less.
Anything over 25K in poly's is just pollution anyway. :-)

Where do the poly's go??
5000 poly ears due to the subdevision? (That get govered by the hair anyway??)
4000 poly navels?
1OOOO poly inner mouth??, Mostly closed or open 1/4"??
Posette, Judy, Alyson Lo Res, OK, I can live with those.
For the rest?
Stay Low poly, a good texture, and a good displacement map.
Just my 2 cents...
Remember, most high poly models get killed by their own poly count.
The rigging becomes a nightmare to get correct.
And no, I will not give examples.

Quote - I wanna bet.
You may use whatever model you like? OK?

Make me something, anything, I can not make with the PoserPro male or female, and anim8or to morph the hell out of them :-).

A mesh, is just a wireframe to hang the texture on.

Nothing, more, nothing less.
Anything over 25K in poly's is just pollution anyway. :-)

Where do the poly's go??
5000 poly ears due to the subdevision? (That get govered by the hair anyway??)
4000 poly navels?
1OOOO poly inner mouth??, Mostly closed or open 1/4"??
Posette, Judy, Alyson Lo Res, OK, I can live with those.
For the rest?
Stay Low poly, a good texture, and a good displacement map.
Just my 2 cents...
Remember, most high poly models get killed by their own poly count.
The rigging becomes a nightmare to get correct.
And no, I will not give examples.

Oh well, I guess with no examples, then it's hard to prove anything except just numbers.  And yes, texture can make a big difference in how something looks, but it's also versatility of expression for the purposes of creating art.  I don't have an agenda here, I like V4 but don't have a monetary interest in her success or lack of, nor do I have any interest in the success or lack of the other figures. Just would like something that looks nice in my renders, please, and thank you.

just my opinion there.

I tried to look at your gallery by the way, and unfortunately there's nothing there.  I wish there had been so I could see.  :(

Quote - Is this the one  you are working with, DP?  

http://poserpros.daz3d.com/store/viewitem.php?selitem=4720

 

Says built off the daz unimesh on the advertisement? or maybe it just takes morphs from V3.  I don't see anything about the nudes that blow me away here, but perhaps you are having better results since you play with her more.  All I see posted of Posette is clothed figures, can you post a few nudes with morphs to look at?

No, I'm using my remapped version of Posette, PosetteV3.  PosetteV3 is the standard Posette mesh, remapped by myself to take the V3 textures.  You can find her here in FreeStuff.

Quote - > Quote - Is this the one  you are working with, DP?  

http://poserpros.daz3d.com/store/viewitem.php?selitem=4720

 

Says built off the daz unimesh on the advertisement? or maybe it just takes morphs from V3.  I don't see anything about the nudes that blow me away here, but perhaps you are having better results since you play with her more.  All I see posted of Posette is clothed figures, can you post a few nudes with morphs to look at?

 

No, I'm using my remapped version of Posette, PosetteV3.  PosetteV3 is the standard Posette mesh, remapped by myself to take the V3 textures.  You can find her here in FreeStuff.

Thanks DP, I'll check it out.  Have some V3 textures I haven't used simply because V3 isn't my favorite character.

:)

edit  DP, the links appear to be broken on rapidshare to your posette women, I tried EVE remapped and PosetteV3wG (PosetteV3 with Genitals) and both said the link couldn't be found.  Maybe you could reupload?

Quote - I really do not like V4.  As V4, that is.  I like the S4 and A4 versions much better but...

As my good mate DPH commented, the mesh is ludicrously dense.

The default V4 looks horrible, too.  As I once noted, it has a face like a bag of smashed crabs.  I also don't like the need to buy 3 different morph packs to get a reasonable amount of variety, either.  Yes, I know, modelling app, FBM etc.  Life's too short.

Looks like I'll be leaving the Victoria boat soon anyhow; I can't afford to upgrade my software and system, so V5 won't be a valid option for me.

I've been playing lately with S4, she's so much fun and I like Aiko too.  What is cool is being able to inject s4 into V4 and visa versa.  

My Oriental Dreams uses S4.  I wish I'd thought to use her in a couple of my other pieces, too, she is lovely, petite.

DAGrant, I went over to look at your gallery. You do really good work with the Daz figures. Most impressive.

Quote - Yes, I love Aki3's morph to look like Reby.  The Daz one is faintly creepy to me in some pictures.  I know they had a non final version that was released, but still the final one is a little odd.  I really think it's the nose and mouth is just off enough that it looks strange.  Aki3's is much closer, but she does beautiful face morphs, period, many that don't even need Morphs++

Delaney

I have all of them she has released in on sharecg, I rarely use the morphs ++ anymore for heads, much preferring to create my own headmorphs or I grab one of Aki's.

I like most use V4 waaay too much, but I have my other favourites too, like Sara, much ignored as she is.  If I want to do something toon renderish that is who I go for.  Heck, with the Crossdresser license for her being free I can even convert V4's massive wordrobe to fit her.  Which is a goal I intend to achieve once I get another (bigger) hard drive.

In the end, V4's popularity comes down to her being the most pushed and supported figure.  Others pose as well if not better (Antonia for sure), but in the end, V4 is right up there in your face when it comes to advertising. 

Oh look, the pretty promos the vendor did for their scenery even have a V4 in them...

She is everywhere regardless of loving her or hating her.

Quote - > Quote - Yes, I love Aki3's morph to look like Reby.  The Daz one is faintly creepy to me in some pictures.  I know they had a non final version that was released, but still the final one is a little odd.  I really think it's the nose and mouth is just off enough that it looks strange.  Aki3's is much closer, but she does beautiful face morphs, period, many that don't even need Morphs++

Delaney

I have all of them she has released in on sharecg, I rarely use the morphs ++ anymore for heads, much preferring to create my own headmorphs or I grab one of Aki's.

I like most use V4 waaay too much, but I have my other favourites too, like Sara, much ignored as she is.  If I want to do something toon renderish that is who I go for.  Heck, with the Crossdresser license for her being free I can even convert V4's massive wordrobe to fit her.  Which is a goal I intend to achieve once I get another (bigger) hard drive.

In the end, V4's popularity comes down to her being the most pushed and supported figure.  Others pose as well if not better (Antonia for sure), but in the end, V4 is right up there in your face when it comes to advertising. 

Oh look, the pretty promos the vendor did for their scenery even have a V4 in them...

She is everywhere regardless of loving her or hating her.

I actually am very impressed with what I've seen of Antonia, but most of the clothing so far seems to be modern for her (and textures) and I do fantasy stuff for the most part.  I'm starting to dip my toe into texturing though, and I could use her for a nude, for certain... I've wanted to for a bit, but .. you know.. time.. :)    Right now I"m just started rendering again after a reformat of my HD, due to a windows error  :P  

I have antonia in my runtime.  I think I'll try her next for something.  

heehee, I should be working on the elf, werewolf, druid picture, but I have to retexture the outfit I have on him.  Isn't that a combo.. were, druid, elf.. heehee.

Maybe clothing conversion would work for Antonia, has anyone done it?

Delaney

Quote - DAGrant, I went over to look at your gallery. You do really good work with the Daz figures. Most impressive.

Thank you so much, Nannette.  I love this medium so much.. I've always had these pictures in my head and wanted to do things that looked like them, but my traditional art skills (while passable) are not nearly up to what I imagine.  Now I finally have tools that are letting me get closer to what I imagine.  I still have eons to go, I feel.

I really want to do a version of Lady of Shalotte, you know the one with her on the lake, that's in the future. :)

I love your work for corporations.  That must be a challenge all it's own, especially how nicely you got the clothing to behave in the cloth room, very cool!  Bryce too.. I have Bryce, but need more time to learn it, everything I do turns out really.. well, not what I expect.  ;)

Delaney

We have to ask PhilC very nicely to make a Wardrobe Wizard expansion pack for Antonia available. I just looked and didn't see one on his site. If you use Obj2CR2 it is possible to create support for Antonia yourself, Phil has instructions on the site. I have never tried.

Quote - We have to ask PhilC very nicely to make a Wardrobe Wizard expansion pack for Antonia available. I just looked and didn't see one on his site.

Maybe if we ask nicely?  :)  

Quote - I actually am very impressed with what I've seen of Antonia, but most of the clothing so far seems to be modern for her (and textures) and I do fantasy stuff for the most part.  I'm starting to dip my toe into texturing though, and I could use her for a nude, for certain... I've wanted to for a bit, but .. you know.. time.. :)    Right now I"m just started rendering again after a reformat of my HD, due to a windows error  :P  

I have antonia in my runtime.  I think I'll try her next for something.  

heehee, I should be working on the elf, werewolf, druid picture, but I have to retexture the outfit I have on him.  Isn't that a combo.. were, druid, elf.. heehee.

Maybe clothing conversion would work for Antonia, has anyone done it?

Delaney

Ditto, been grabbing all the Antonia stuff that has been posted, apparently she is very near version 1.  I haven't tried yet.  But then again, I can't rig anything worth a damn.  Might try to do some of the dynamic pieces I have for V4 and see how it goes.

I know the feeling, by request I am turning my little vampire girl I did for V4 into a faerie for a friends amusement.  Texturing, and new ear morphs, and some other adjustments to be made.

Quote - Ditto, been grabbing all the Antonia stuff that has been posted, apparently she is very near version 1.  I haven't tried yet.  But then again, I can't rig anything worth a damn.  Might try to do some of the dynamic pieces I have for V4 and see how it goes.

I know the feeling, by request I am turning my little vampire girl I did for V4 into a faerie for a friends amusement.  Texturing, and new ear morphs, and some other adjustments to be made.

That sounds like a lot of fun.  I just started into poserland about a year or so ago, I haven't gotten into making my own morphs except by dialing them up, but I admire people who do.

Quote - That sounds like a lot of fun.  I just started into poserland about a year or so ago, I haven't gotten into making my own morphs except by dialing them up, but I admire people who do.

I broke down and got Argile cause it is easy as all get out to make morphs in.  I tried several free and paid modeling apps first and Argile was the best one for me. 

Quote - > Quote - That sounds like a lot of fun.  I just started into poserland about a year or so ago, I haven't gotten into making my own morphs except by dialing them up, but I admire people who do.

 

I broke down and got Argile cause it is easy as all get out to make morphs in.  I tried several free and paid modeling apps first and Argile was the best one for me. 

That looks like a pretty sweet program.  I didn't see any cost in the store, though, they said contact them?  Love the way it seems to work, appears intuitive.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - That sounds like a lot of fun.  I just started into poserland about a year or so ago, I haven't gotten into making my own morphs except by dialing them up, but I admire people who do.

 

I broke down and got Argile cause it is easy as all get out to make morphs in.  I tried several free and paid modeling apps first and Argile was the best one for me. 

That looks like a pretty sweet program.  I didn't see any cost in the store, though, they said contact them?  Love the way it seems to work, appears intuitive.

It was $90 for me as I recall.  Looks like the webstore is temporarily down though.

Don't go out and buy something, as in software, because someone likes it. Demo all of the simular software that does the same thing and choose the one that works and feels right for you. What works for one person may be the worst for you. If it costs a bit more. Wait and save to get the right one in the first place.

Well eventualy V5 will be out and it will the most popular.

And the whole process will begin again.

1st Posette

2nd Vicky 1

3rd Vicky 2

4th Vicky 3

5th Vicky 4

6th Vicky 5 ?

don't any of you find the repetitiveness boring, not to mention expensive?

dph

Quote - Don't go out and buy something, as in software, because someone likes it. Demo all of the simular software that does the same thing and choose the one that works and feels right for you. What works for one person may be the worst for you. If it costs a bit more. Wait and save to get the right one in the first place.

That is good advice. :)

Quote - 1st Posette

2nd Vicky 1

3rd Vicky 2

4th Vicky 3

5th Vicky 4

6th Vicky 5 ?

don't any of you find the repetitiveness boring, not to mention expensive?

dph

I probably won't pick up V5 for awhile if and when they do release her.  I simply have too much v4 content now and it will take a good long while for that much to be released for v5.  and hopefully someone will have some sort of converter between the two versions for clothes, etc.  But I don't find it overly expensive, no.  Look around, some of the models for other 3D's stuff is much more expensive than poser things.  Everyone always has mega sales and this is something I love to do.

 There are folks out there who dump hundreds of dollars on crafting, scrapbooking, woodworking... heck, have you priced tradiional oil paint and canvas lately, DP?   Talk about an investment and once the paint goes on the canvas you can't use it again and you can't retexture something or use materials to reuse the same content elsewhere and change it up because it's all stuck to a canvas.  So why is it a problem if folks spend a few dollars a week on their hobby or pastime?  

Yes, there are some who create freebies.  And I'm extremely grateful for them and a good deal of my runtime consists of such content. However, artists spend time creating all the content and resources.  My dad is an artist, though he creates custom reproductions of weaponry.  He puts time and effort into each one and charges thousands of dollars for the items he makes.  No one should be ashamed if they make a product that others wish to have and will pay for.

Even in the electronic world, it's not inexpensive to create... time is money... also textures have to be found or bought or created.. programs, computers bought and storefronts paid for and the staff to run them - those folks at Daz have mouths at home to feed too, right? And the folks here at Rendo and the other 3D sites.  So they should never release a new product... never make supporting content, never make upgrades?  Never try to run a profitable business?

 in the end, however, I want what will help me create the pictures in my head.  If your Posette would do that, and if the content supporting her existed, then I would happily use her, but as I've said.  I haven't seen pictures that convince me so far, and I haven't been able to use her.

By the way, your files when I went to download them are not there.  Said, 'file does not exist'  so you need to re upload them - Tried Eve and the Posette one.  Also, I notice you had altered the base figure, so would I need to find that somewhere?  Just curious.  I'm still waiting to try your Posette and see.

Delaney

I would never suggest running out and buying something because I think it is good.  Argile for me was an investment after I failed miserably with just about everything else I tried.  Heck I have bought both polygon and nurbs modeling apps along the way.  I was only mentioning what I recalled paying as the webstore is down, it has been a bit though.

It is just a suggestion of a decent one to look at.  Like anything else, it is just one more tool in the box.  Along with Poser and Daz Studio, GIMP, PSP and anything else I wind up using along the way.

I only wound up grabbing it to fix V4s squishy oatmeal face and touch up joints because I never could figure out how to get an object I modified in Sculptris back into Poser as a morph.  If I could I would be  using it since it is free, can do some pretty nifty things, and in many ways has the superior tool set.

Quote - There are folks out there who dump hundreds of dollars on crafting, scrapbooking, woodworking... heck, have you priced tradiional oil paint and canvas lately, DP?   Talk about an investment and once the paint goes on the canvas you can't use it again and you can't retexture something or use materials to reuse the same content elsewhere and change it up because it's all stuck to a canvas.  So why is it a problem if folks spend a few dollars a week on their hobby or pastime?

I have absolutely no interest in oil paintings, since I'm still working with my 1st edition of Crayola Crayons.

dph

Quote - 1st Posette

2nd Vicky 1

3rd Vicky 2

4th Vicky 3

5th Vicky 4

6th Vicky 5 ?

don't any of you find the repetitiveness boring, not to mention expensive?

dph

V1 - V4 is 10years + old. I'm not sure how many years Possette was before that. I had her for a year before the Vickies and that was with the last main release of Poser 4. 4.03 to be exact. So it's not like they have come out one on top of the other. Each one was an improvement over the last. Lets not forget that till V4. the figures had a legacy figure body with the new head for the use of older content. V5 is still not for a year or more yet. Most people I know have had 2 or 5 new cars/vehicales in that same amount of time.

Repetitive and expensive? Not in the least as in the reasons I stated in the first paragraph. As I pointed out before that they had more care in rigging than anything since they came out, not counting Antonia or maybe Apollo, than any of the Main Poser figures.

Should we stick with 11 + year old figures because of loyalty or cheepness? No. Move on and enjoy what there is now. There are many ways to convert older content to work with newer figures if someone wants to. I'm not saying to never use old figures but I can say the same thing about Possette. Repetiveness boring.

Rhionon I never said you did. I was just giving some advice on software. That should be repeated every so often.

We have to ask PhilC very nicely to make a Wardrobe Wizard expansion pack for Antonia available.

PhilC is, at the moment, waiting for the final version of Antonia. Before odf isn't really and absoultely finished with his work it makes few sense to release a WW2-plugin. And yes, dynamic clothes work good on her. A bit of repositioning and resizing is all that is needed as long as you don't have a very tight piece of clothing - this may need some extra-effort to fit it.

About V4: IMHO it's indeed the support, the many choices you have when you want to dress her, alter her look or buy hair. It can be pretty frustrating to have a figure in your runtime you would like to use but only the clothes that came with the base figure - and either no time or not the skills to create something on your own*.*

Off of that I am really sorry now that I did not create bookmarks of forum postings each time a new Victoria was released. The tenor was always the same: Victoria insert version here is butt ugly, I will never buy her and never use her, I stay with Victoria insert lower version here.

Regarding this echo on every release of a Victoria-version it's almost amazing that each of them becomes the most rendered figure in the galleries, isn't it?

Yes, every version of Victoria looked a bit "wooden", artificial straight out of the box when you loaded her. But there are only few exceptions from this in the market of basic figures. It needs a bit more than an unmorphed figure and a basic texture to get a realistic render. *

I have to stifle a scream and restrain myself from putting my foot through the monitor every time someone breathes "V4" under their breath, it's MANDATORY that you get a sermon on the wonders of Posette remapped.  DP - All Due respect - It drives me right up the wall.  We get it, we do, we just aren't into it. 

To the cat that complained about V4's High concentration of Polys...it's a new era, a new paradigm.  You don't have to be efficient anymore; our computers can handle it.  You can't subdivide in Poser, so if you want to morph things out with magnets it's nice to have the Polys on hand.  I haven't been slowed down by Poly's since Poser 6.

Quote - I have to stifle a scream and restrain myself from putting my foot through the monitor every time someone breathes "V4" under their breath, it's MANDATORY that you get a sermon on the wonders of Posette remapped.  DP - All Due respect - It drives me right up the wall.  We get it, we do, we just aren't into it. 

To the cat that complained about V4's High concentration of Polys...it's a new era, a new paradigm.  You don't have to be efficient anymore; our computers can handle it.  You can't subdivide in Poser, so if you want to morph things out with magnets it's nice to have the Polys on hand.  I haven't been slowed down by Poly's since Poser 6.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Oh brother.

Would it be okay if I said I'm a bit sick of the Posette stuff too? ;o) I never liked her from day one - not my cup of tea. Not that I mind that anyone else uses her of course. But I don't have to hear about it. Constantly. You've made it abundantly clear more times than I can count.

Laurie

OMG, someone backed me up!  Someone call Anderson Cooper!

DPhoadley, this isn't a government site, you aren't a US Citizen, and no one's FORCING you to stop posting about Posette.

What is being said is, "We know you remapped Posette.  Can we talk about other figures WITHOUT getting your speil?  Because we've heard it already."  It's not YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED.  It's "We've heard it already, let's give it a rest.

Quote - OMG, someone backed me up!  Someone call Anderson Cooper!

I think I've mentioned it a time or two before...lol.

Laurie

Who says I'm not a US Citizen?  Would you like to see my US PassPort?  I'm an ex-Patriote, living in israel since 1973, but I'm not an ex-Citizen.  There is a difference.  And, as long as there is a Free Speech, I shall continue to utter mine.

And BTW, I'm no less tired of hearing how great the DAZ figures are.  Would anyone care to talk about the G2s and Miki and Terai Yuki instead?

dph

Oy Vey.

Oy.  Ok, excuse me.  Still, this isn't a government website, and no one's "squashing" your free speech.  

Here, I'll un-sugar coat it.  People think the constant posette posts in threads about Vicky are annoying.  This is why they say "Hey,  man, lay off".  

Why don't you write a blog post?  I mean, yeah, there's a link to your remaps in your sigline, but, is there anywhere online that you go in-depth about the figures BESIDES the forums?  This way, you get the word out, and you don't end up pissing people off for no reason other than you WANT to post it.