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Subject: possible commission


bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 1:47 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 11:46 AM

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hi im looking for someone to build 4 conforming outfist for me 2 for m4 and 2 for v4


bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 1:48 PM · edited Sat, 20 August 2011 at 1:58 PM

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both this one and the preceeding would be the same for both v4 and m4


bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 1:52 PM

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this is a better pic of the first couple


bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 2:07 PM

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as an alternate to the first uniform


bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 2:08 PM

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or maybe something like this


bagginsbill ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 6:10 PM · edited Sat, 20 August 2011 at 6:11 PM

You're confusing the heck out of me. The first, second, and fourth image are identical. I've had 3 drinks. Is it me or you?


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 6:12 PM

Are you willing to pay 3X for one outfit? Not that I'm interested, but others might be.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 7:35 PM

I beleive the OP could " kitbash" those oufit from existing clothing items except for the bagdes&insignias.

 

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bluto ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 9:00 PM · edited Sat, 20 August 2011 at 9:02 PM

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i dont know why those images are all the same , they were meant to be different i will try to post the other images


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 6:17 AM

Wolf has it.  The boots and leggings, for example, are fairly generic.  In fact, Uzilite's stuff may well do the job.  With a bit of playing around in Wardrobe Wizard, you should be able to get them to fit any figure.

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:39 PM

Problem is, to be marketable, the outfits can't be under a copyright... which they seem to be, they look to be from a sci-fi show or something?

And if we can't sell them to the general public, a Poser content creator would have to charge you for a few weeks of work probably...

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vholf ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:49 PM · edited Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:50 PM

Quote - ...they look to be from a sci-fi show or something?...

Sci-fi or something?!, you know Ohki, you could make a few enemies by calling those outfits, sci-fi or something... LOL

But you are right, this are copyrighted and would not be distributable as products.


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:50 PM

Eep. Please pardon my lack of common knowledge LOL!

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rokket ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 10:14 PM

Star Trek Klingon uniforms. Yep. Copyrighted, actually, trademarked. Can't sell them. But there is nothing stopping you from downloading and learning Blender. It's free. You could them make them yourself for your own use.

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bluto ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 5:51 AM

i never intended to sell these , they would be put up somewhere as a free item ,

 and i am willing to pay for them to be made as is stated in the thread title with the word COMMISSION

im quite happy qith my skills at using hexagon so blender is not an option however free it is .

there is a reason that i am looking for an artist that does this hind of thing and know the process inside and out , that reason is that im no good at it 

 the problem seems to be finding someone that will do it , instead od finding someone that wants to talk about my i cant convert an exsisting item or why i dont make em my self


SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:31 AM

A content creator who agreed to do these for pay would be potentially at risk of getting into hot water with the owners of the Star Trek franchise.  And, since making clothes ain't exactly a walk in the park, I doubt many would want to make 'em for free, unless they're a devoted Trekker.

Until then the alternatives are your best options. 

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vholf ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 10:27 AM

Why would anyone get in trouble working on this as a commision? Is not like it's being payed through a store front or anything, there wouldn't be any distribution. Is like paying an artist to make a star wars painting on my bedroom's wall and Lucas Art going after the artist.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 11:30 AM

I did say "potentially".  And it all depends on the company involved.  Disney, for example, have gone after people for painting murals on school walls, even though they were done for free.  

According to the strict interpretation of copyright law, anyone accepting payment for an unauthorized replica of a copyright item is in breach, whether the item is intended for personal use or not, free distribution or not.  

Many companies allow fan art.  As far as I know, none of them would be happy about anyone other than themselves receiving payment for their products. 

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dasquid ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 11:51 AM

Quote - A content creator who agreed to do these for pay would be potentially at risk of getting into hot water with the owners of the Star Trek franchise.  And, since making clothes ain't exactly a walk in the park, I doubt many would want to make 'em for free, unless they're a devoted Trekker.

Until then the alternatives are your best options. 

 

Dude it's Trekkie, Trekkers are just Trekkies in denial. :P



Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:12 PM

... suddenly I see this conversation and remembered The Big Bang Theory, and now I fear for my life for calling Star Trek a "sci fi show or something" LMAO!

Me? I'm the D&D kinda nerd. Love fantasy.

 

Anyway... I don't think I'd do very well trying to model clothes like that, and I'd really rather avoid the possible complications, sorry...

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:13 PM

Quote - > Quote - A content creator who agreed to do these for pay would be potentially at risk of getting into hot water with the owners of the Star Trek franchise.  And, since making clothes ain't exactly a walk in the park, I doubt many would want to make 'em for free, unless they're a devoted Trekker.

Until then the alternatives are your best options. 

 

Dude it's Trekkie, Trekkers are just Trekkies in denial. :P

Well, I was just being polite.  I'm not a fan of the show so I don't fit into either category. :) 

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vholf ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:34 PM

Quote - ... suddenly I see this conversation and remembered The Big Bang Theory, and now I fear for my life for calling Star Trek a "sci fi show or something" LMAO!

Me? I'm the D&D kinda nerd. Love fantasy.

Lol yeah, it's like someone saying a D&D is "some fairy tale or something..."

Fantasy nerd here also, never rendered anything sci-fi so far, though I have ideas for one or two scenes. Altough, I was a Star Wars freak as a kid.


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:40 PM

I'm ok with the fairy tale stuff though LOL

Meh, back to topic...

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millighost ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:41 PM

Quote - I did say "potentially".  And it all depends on the company involved.  Disney, for example, have gone after people for painting murals on school walls, even though they were done for free....

Painting Mickey Mouse on a school wall is a public display, which is a slightly different matter, moreso since Disney already tries to touch up it's meager income by selling posters. Anyway, since the OP together with renderosity are probably already at the top of Captain Kirk's  Most-Wanted-List for posting those images here, i do not think it can get much worse anyway; making a 3d model of the suit would probably be the smaller issue.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:57 PM

Quote - Dude it's Trekkie, Trekkers are just Trekkies in denial. :P

 

no no there is a difference

the old question. whats the difference between Trekkers and Trekkies?

 

Trekkers wonder what sex in zero-g would be like.

 

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 4:40 PM

And just to stir things up a bit more...

I do like SF.  Which is why I don't particularly like Star Trek.   

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mrsparky ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 10:44 AM

Bluto - you don't need to pay, theres loads of free stuff out there...

Mega list of trek stuff...
http://startrekartistsunite.deviantart.com/blog/33150525/

2 big Threads at daz...
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=168889
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=136347

female klingon
http://www.sharecg.com/v/21775/gallery/11/Poser/A3-Klingon-Uniform

male klingon
http://www.sharecg.com/v/19385/gallery/11/Poser/M3-Klingon-Uniform

If you search for "klingon" at sharecg, theres also face/head morphs, hair, guns, insignia badges even eyebrows!

battleh weapon
http://www.buckrogers.demon.co.uk/

If what you want isn't there, you can use Wardrobe Wizard or cross dresser to convert to other figures.

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bluto ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 3:08 PM

mr sparkey , i appriciate the links , i have most of the items listed however i dont like the klingon uniforms . they are to unfinnished . i need something alot more polished


mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:52 AM · edited Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:52 AM

mr sparkey , i appriciate the links ,

Thanks.

i have most of the items listed however i dont like the klingon uniforms . they are to unfinnished . i need something alot more polished

Do you mean the shoulder armour  where you say..
this is a better pic of the first couple

..if yes. Then maybe someone in the daz thread would make you that part and you could use the other parts of the clothing.

If not, or you want other clothing, then what are you offering cashwise?
Is this 50/50 or 100% up front?
Whats your timeframe?
How many revisions do you think is fair?

There'll be a few people watching it and I know a few artists who might be able to help. But they'll need to know that you're serious about this.   

Apol if that sounds cynical, not meant to be. It's because "make me" requests tend to be 2 a penny on the boards. So if you can show all is cool you'll easily be able to get someone to help.

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bluto ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 9:39 AM

mr sparkey ,

 regarding the m3 and a3 klingon  uniforms , i feel the entire uniform is un finnished . dont miss understand me here , its a good start  it just dosent go far enough .  the whole thing needs to be taken back to formula and re worked

its fun to play aroud with the uniform that is out there but its not right /

 its like the differance between the real costume and the mass market halloween outfit .

sure it looks klingon but it also looks cheesy and cheap

 cash wise , that depends on the artist skill level .

i dont intend to take as gospel that they are good , i will want to see a link to the portfolio page any  decent digital content builder should have online  

 since it would be a group commission from the good folks over at the trek builder forum on daz of wich i am a proud member we could have a whip around and get the start up cash in short order

i think we could swing a 50 down 50 when finnished ,

revisions , no more than 5 but i hope to be able to get things close to what im after with 3 or less

 i am very serious about this, ith romulan outfits can wait for a bit , im really after a top shelf set of klingon uniforms for m4 and v4

 

 


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 11:23 AM

That "halloween costume" look is probably because of the simple textures with simple shaders.

Do you need this for Daz Studio or Poser? For Poser, I could give it a shot, depending on how much money we're talking about (because then I'd have to delay a few products I have in the making). For D|S... can do the meshes and stuff, but I don't know how materials work.

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bluto ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 11:37 AM

poser , but dont delay any of your projects you can take as much time as you need . im in no real hurry . semd me a pm with a price quote for both a m4 uniform and a v4 uniform... like i said its not a time related thing so no reall rush is needed


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 2:30 PM

One of them can't be delayed (I have a texture artist with an expansion pack for my product to be released along with it, and she's waiting for me to finish it...). The others can be done slowly as I make yours. I would try the female outfits first... have never done stuff for men. Do you have back views of the two female outfits you posted in page 1 of this thread? I'll have to analise my price depending on details and complexity.

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bluto ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 7:42 PM

at this point i am more interested in the klingon uniform than i am in the romulan ones .the back details of the romulan uniforms mirror the details shown on the front of the uniform . i can find more detailed referancefor the klingon stuff should you need it and you prolly will .


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:06 PM

You're gonna have to tell me which is which via description of appearance, because until the middle of page 1 of this thread, I didn't even know these are from Star Trek :lol:

Also, please check your site mail.

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bluto ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:21 PM

the image with 2 figures in it is the klingon one all else is the romulan


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:25 PM

With the couple that looks like your avatar, yes? Ok, I'd start with the female one if you're ok with it and have more references, but I'll need an answer to the site mail I sent you first.

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