I was looking at the DAZ site just now and it appeared that V5 is not Poser compatible. Was this just my mistake or is it DAZ Studio only?

V5 is a morph of the Genesis unimesh. The only app that fully supports the G figure is DS4. There is some kind of CR2 exporter being McGuyvered as we speak (it kinda works sorta mostly occasionally), but to use the full features, you -have- to use DS4...which will only be free until 11/30/11, assuming they don't change the sale date again.

Even if they get Genesis/V5 to work, it will only work in P9/Ppro2012 due to the weightmapping. 

Myunderstanding is that Genesis will export with any version of DS. I think right now the drawback is that it only exports the figure. This means no hair, clothes, or materials. At least that's what I read somewhere.

Ok so Poser is being scaled out of the DAZ pipeline. We are being forced to either use Smith Micro figures or move to DAZ Studio. I don't like this.

Or continue to use the other DAZ figures.  Other than DAZ, all the new items I've seen are for the Gen 4 figures.  If you see a product that states it's for V4 and Genesis, it's because Genesis can use V4's texture maps.

Someone was (briefly) selling a utility to inject V4 morphs into Genesis, then pulled it from Rendo to work on it some more. I'm not sure if this helps it to work in Poser, or if it just allows you to use V4 morphs in Genesis within DS4.

I'm excited about this product to shape Genesis so my V4 clothing will fit. I also like the solutions to V4's joint / bending problems that Genesis offers. But until it can work in Poser I will just have to wait. 

I don't use DS. I won't use DS. If DAZ doesn't build a V5 Poser version, I'm afraid V4 is my last Poser figure. And no tears

If you want to use V5 in Poser, you will need to install DAZ|Studio 4. Then all you need to do (after installing V5, obviously) is export the base OBJ file, and then a CR2. From there on, you can load the CR2 into Poser and forget about DS4. The only time you need to go back to DS4 is when you buy new Genesis content, to export a new CR2 with the new morphs.

I don't like using DAZ|Studio, as it has a fugly viewport preview, and it is horrible for rendering, but I love using Genesis in Poser Pro 2012 :)

Quote - ...I'm afraid V4 is my last Poser figure.

Your last DAZ Poser figure. Another poster of this forum wrote "Mark my words!"... listen to her and mark her words.

Bye...

...they are coming...

Quote - I don't use DS. I won't use DS. If DAZ doesn't build a V5 Poser version, I'm afraid V4 is my last Poser figure. And no tears

 Been here yet by any chance, casette....? If not, hop on over and see what Diogenes/Phantom3D is doing vis-a-vis rerigging and weightmapping V4. And the almost ready for prime time AntoniaWM release. And some other projects in the wind, as it were......

http://poserplace.phantom3d.net/forums

I got Vicky 5. Not sure what the hoopla is about... or really what the point of getting her this early is anyway. Between the figure and some morphs I have a round 60 bucks in her and she's basically no more useful or attractive than a left handed post hole digger. Plus she ain't much of a looker.

It's compatible with DAZ CR2 exporter. But until the shoulders problem is not fixed with the exported Genesis from DAZ to Poser, it's not worth it unless you don't mind a V5 with athletic man shoulders. 

The Genesis export for Poser is a nightmare with any female shape. the morph tool can help to remodel a little the ugly shoulders.

I don't think I'll be paying so much for any more of those figures either. DAZ studio is very expensive as well and to get full poser functionality you have to buy add ons and that bumps the price way up also.

Bye bye Poser.

I change to DS.

You are Goofy.

Quote - You are Goofy.

Or Pluto?  I always get those two confused.

Poser has its own open standards, and any developer can use those standards to make content that is perfectly Poser compliant and totally Poser enabled, even though this has been rarely done (hint to S/M). This is as true for weight-maps, bulge-maps, animatable joint origins, and P8/PP2010 rigging improvements, as for any of the older features of Poser. Bridging to Poser is also simply a matter of expressing a figure's features in, or translating them to, a Poser compliant format. There are no secrets in any of the Poser file formats. The data of all the files can be viewed in any text editor.

Naturally, because of the amazing variability of human creativity, no two programs are alike. So, some figures designed specifically to work in one program may have features that cannot be reproduced in another application (or at least not well enough to bother). Presently in Poser, V5, as a morph of Genesis, will not work as it does in D/S if Genesis will not work in Poser as it does in D/S, which it doesn’t.

Really, D/S 4.0 is designed for Genesis, and Genesis is designed for D/S. To whom is this not obvious? Well, now you know. This is so much so, that the figure can only be loaded onto a system by installing some version of D/S 4.X. At present it can only be exported (with a few of its features, but not all) to Poser from within D/S 4.X. This is especially true if one wants to have (limited) use of the morphs available for Genesis. As it works out, I suppose coincidentally, one must open and use D/S at least to some degree, in order to use any Genesis related content in Poser.

I cannot blame DAZ3D for trying to get SmithMicro to rewrite Poser so that one version of the Genesis/v5 figure would work in both programs the same way. This would provide the widest possible marketablility of Genesis with the least cost to DAZ. I do not blame S/M for not taking DAZ up on that "generous" offer. So at present there is only one version of Genesis/v5.

Poser people who want to use Genesis/v5 in Poser are hard at work breaking down the barriers, solving the problems, and overcoming the difficulties of using V5, in P9/PP2012. This is typical of the Poser breed of users. They get done what DAZ and S/M have not done, and they share it or sell it (which isn’t wrong at all) to others who want to do the same.

So, can V5 be used in Poser 9 and Poser Pro 2012? Yes, in a limited way. However, this is likely to change as the creative and innovative Poser community adapts the product for its own use. I would say, “Stay tuned.”

lmk

your antonia banner don't go anywhere other than a screen with the antonia banner on it.

kyhighlander59:

I had trouble figuring out how to get it into my signature, so I just upload the banner as a picture. The link to PoserPlace is highlighted in my signature.

lmk

On the image above I made with the Gimp blending the same pose rendered in Poser Firefly and LuxRender you can see the difference and how much Poser increase the shoulders.

Decide to use either DAZ Studio or Poser and be happy with your choice.

No. I refuse to be happy.

And thanks for the explanation lkendall.

Quote - No. I refuse to be happy.

 

Then which one of the 7 dwarfs do you plan to be?

Doc is taken by Dr. Geep, that leaves Sneezy, Sleepy, Dopey, Bashful and Grumpy!

Not part of this play but Antonia Polygon WM has has taken on the roll of Sleeping Beauty, that will soon awaken and....:biggrin:

what is the url for antonia now?

Allow me to cite my download thread for Antonia from Poser Place, which links to all the resources I know. But specifically Antonia is available now from BluEcho's page.

An updated distribution file with new content is being asembled by Robynsveil, our project coordinator. We hope to choose a re-release date over the weekend.

 A finished version of Antonia~WM will be released seperately, but a beta version can be downloaded now from the links on the page I referenced above.

lmk

thanks

Quote - > Quote - You are Goofy.

Or Pluto?  I always get those two confused.

I always thought it weird that Goofy was like a regular guy, yet Pluto was a pet dog; they are both dogs, arent they?  But then, some say that P8 Alyson is a dog as well, and Windows Vista was certainly a dog....

The Beagle Boys were dogs too in the Disney universe.

Vista? A dog?

That was mean. What have dogs ever done to you.....?

I'd call it 'blasphemy', myself........ >:| 

Quote - Decide to use either DAZ Studio or Poser and be happy with your choice.

Why not use both and be content? And G/V5 can be imported into poser, and yes, Daz will fix those issues otherwise why invest into innovating a new figure just to ailianate 75-90% of your consumer base? I mean really,  if your entire investment in making D|S4 Pro exclusively for content creators why, in all that is good and decent would you only make content (As a content creator) only for D|S4 users and NOT poser users?

I mean come on, didn't we all start on Poser once upon a time?

@ Dave: No, what was blasphamous was windows ME! X^D 

Quote - > Quote - Decide to use either DAZ Studio or Poser and be happy with your choice.

Why not use both and be content? And G/V5 can be imported into poser, and yes, Daz will fix those issues otherwise why invest into innovating a new figure just to ailianate 75-90% of your consumer base? I mean really,  if your entire investment in making D|S4 Pro exclusively for content creators why, in all that is good and decent would you only make content (As a content creator) only for D|S4 users and NOT poser users?

I mean come on, didn't we all start on Poser once upon a time?

@ Dave: No, what was blasphamous was windows ME! X^D 

The problem with using both applications is that you cannot mix content. If you use dynamic clothing you are restricted to Poser, if you set up a nice set of materials for you prop or figure, you are restricted to Poser. If you want to render V5 you are restricted to DS4. The two simply do not mix.

Importing V5 into Poser works up to a certain level. You can pose and morph it, but the render is low quality because of the missing Cattmull Divisioning. Posers smoothing makes it a little better, but not good enough for closeups. I have not heard or read that DAZ can/will solve this particular problem

"Here you come again.

*Just when I'm about to make it work without you, *

you waltz right in the door, just like you done before..."

-Dolly Parton

Im not interested at all in the latest iteration of victoria,it seams to me as a poser user to be pointless, and shes only a morph for genesis....im seriously thinking of cancelling my daz subscription, as they have less to offer me and are slowly pushing me out