Hi everyone!  :)

I'm modeling an outfit & have a question or two about how to go about it.  Any help would be appreciated & most welcome. 

I want the dress & skirt to appear pleated however, I can't for the life of me create the pleats in Hex to where they look nice.  I've imported the skirt to PP2012 & draped it & it looks good that way.  IF I exported to obj format:

1. Will it save with the drape intact if I export at the last frame?

2. Will it look right when it's conformed, morphed, etc.?  I don't want to end up with thousands of screwy vertices or polys to fix after it's exported.

I'd like it to be DS compatible; that why I was thinking conforming instead of dynamic.  The dynamic drapes do look really nice though & I may end up just doing it as a dynamic outfit.  Experiences would really help me make a decision.  :unsure:

Any thoughts/experiences on the final outcome of this before I do all the work?

Thanks so very, very much. 

L

Well, I figured out the answer to #1.  :)

Is this what you mean by pleated? This is a 10 frame drape.

This is the way I see it.

It is not always possible to convert an outfit from conforming to dynamic. But a dynamic piece of cloth can always be made to conform.. Therefore it better to start with dynamic, for Poser of course.

Then, make the conforming version for Genesis. So much easier.

Then you can sell the dynamic version for Poser and the conforming for Daz each separately and also maybe make a bundle.

A conforming version for Poser is not worth the trouble IMO.

I agree with vintorix. And, if you just need short pleats around the top of the skirt, do it with a texture and displacement maps. Overlapping polys can cause a lot of unexpected problems.

Toxic Wolf,

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  :)  However, I need the pleats to go the length of the dress.  The overlapping polys is just what I want to avoid.  The skirt isn't very open toward the bottom like your example though.  It's more so a tight fit around the kalasaris underneath, which is also very tight to the body of V4.

Vintorix,

Quote - A conforming version for Poser is not worth the trouble IMO.

Yeah, I was thinking the same.  I don't work with Genesis though.  I rarely use DS anymore, but adding compatibility equals better sales potential as you said. Not sure what to do.  My Wacom doesn't work too well with DS & Poser is just easier for me now.  I love the way my renders come out with less effort.

I'll have to ponder what to do once I see how the polys work together after it's draped & exported.

A simple render of what it looks like draped.  Do you think I'll have problems with overlapping polys?  I love how natural dynamic drapes look.   The more I use PP2012, the more I love it.

That looks very pretty. I love dynamic cloth too!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68255

It creates a nice uniformly pleated item.

3DFineries,

The tricky bit with dynamic cloth is that everything must be welded shut. That is the reason for all the disapointing dynamic stuff without pockets and thickness and seams and belt loops and other details, and most important of all -morphs.

But once you get it right it is worth the trouble, you have something new, I wouldn't say that its like "where no man has gone before" but near enough.

Are you a man or mouse? Make an effort and be a part of the new paradigm shift! You are welcome to ask me anything through the site mail.

To tell the truth, I feel a little lonely.

Thank you, Janl. 

Quote - It's very pretty!  If you are looking for something more "pleated," there's a nice Pleat Ring model here in the Rendo freebies: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68255

It creates a nice uniformly pleated item.

Glitterati3D,

Thank you.  I downloaded as soon as I saw it  , but I had this outfit sitting in a folder for some time now.  Just getting around to finishing it.  Got frustrated with the skirt & then I had a light bulb go off & I'm going with it.  It's important to me to do it without help from 'cheats' if I can. I'll save the Pleat Ring as a last resort.

Quote - 3DFineries, The tricky bit with dynamic cloth is that everything must be welded shut. That is the reason for all the disapointing dynamic stuff without pockets and thickness and seams and belt loops and other details, and most important of all -morphs.

But once you get it right it is worth the trouble, you have something new, I wouldn't say that its like "where no man has gone before" but near enough.

Are you a man or mouse? Make an effort and be a part of the new paradigm shift! You are welcome to ask me anything through the site mail.

To tell the truth, I feel a little lonely.

vintorix,

I didn't know you had to weld dynamic clothes.   I never really noticed those little details like belt loops & pockets before you pointed them out, but I'm still learning the ins & outs of Poser.  That's interesting....  I don't mind troubleas long as I can avoid the frustration that usually follows.  :lol:  Once I get frustrated though I have to put it down & do something else.

I made it cause I wanted a more authentic Egyptian outfit.  I have a render in mind & really needed this style outfit.  I still have to model the short kilt, jewelry & sandals.  Didn't even think about "going where no man has gone before", but hey I'll take it.  Although, I'll have to settle for being a wo"man" instead.   Don't want to be a man & I kill mice (& bugs) for a living.  :lol:

Will drop you a note if I need something for sure though.  I really like that coat.  Bet it will drape nicely when all is said & done. 

Seems I have a bit of an issue with the belt to fix though.    The skirt polys are clashing with the belt.  I think the angle of the inner edge of the belt is too sharp.  Once I figure it out, I'm sure I'll need to ask more questions about other stuff.