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Subject: 20th Century Fox monument?


SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 04 June 2012 at 5:55 AM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 8:35 AM

Has anyone seen/know of a model of this in a format Poser can use?  Free, since I'm broke.

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seachnasaigh ( ) posted Mon, 04 June 2012 at 7:23 AM

     I recall it looking like groups of extruded letters separated by horizontal slabs, on a sort of art deco style ziggurat base, and of course the klieg lights.  But I also vaguely recall sometimes seeing a more extensive building complex below it.  How much of this thing would you need?

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WandW ( ) posted Mon, 04 June 2012 at 7:49 AM

There is one floating around in .max format, but I don't know anyone with 3DSMax to convert it...

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 04 June 2012 at 9:11 AM

Quote -      I recall it looking like groups of extruded letters separated by horizontal slabs, on a sort of art deco style ziggurat base, and of course the klieg lights.  But I also vaguely recall sometimes seeing a more extensive building complex below it.  How much of this thing would you need?

The whole thing. 

@WandW - That's a shame.  I don't have Max, nor do I know anyone who uses it. 

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DarrenUK ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 4:20 AM

If you can convert one from blender, then just type in "blender 3d 20th century fox logo" into google. There are quite a few, also some of the youtube videos have links to various blender models of it.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 6:39 AM

Yep, I can convert from Blender easily enough.  I have Blender installed - but sadly unused - so that should be easy enough.

Thanks for the heads up. 

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 8:53 AM

Good deal. I was going to suggest Google 3DWarehouse has several but they'd need to be converted from SketchUp format. Please tell me the Daleks are going after Rupie :-)

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:25 AM · edited Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:28 AM

Quote - Good deal. I was going to suggest Google 3DWarehouse has several but they'd need to be converted from SketchUp format. Please tell me the Daleks are going after Rupie :-)

I'm not sure they'd turn own their on creator, would they?


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:35 AM

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:lol:

He does look a bit like old Scrote face. 

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:59 AM

Veering off-thread even more... this is awesome...


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 10:06 AM

Our kids have one of those walkers.  I was tempted to make panels like that for Sam.  Claire warned me of dire consequences if I did.

BTW, my mother in law goes around in an electric wheelchair and screams at everyone.  Bet you can't guess what I call her.  Apart from "Rancid old bat", that is. :) 

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 10:14 AM

LOL :lol:

Maybe you could make the panels for your mother in law instead... tell her its some sort of "leg warming" device ;-)


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 10:18 AM

I'd like to make something for her but Claire won't let me buy the rope.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 10:30 AM

:lol:

Oh dear... :ohmy:

 


monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 10:53 AM

That reminds me...

I found the below item in freestuff... and had a render idea for it:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=45840

But I think it needs to be elevated up on a kind of platform...??

A bit like this:

Any ideas?

I may as well just ask in this thread. LOL ;-)

 

...and did you actually get a useable Blender version of your 20th Century Fox Monument in the end Paul??

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 11:17 AM

Another member had a max version which she kindly converted for me.  I dropped it into Poser and it works fine.

I have no particular image in mind for it, it's just one of those things I find inherently interesting. 

Your pic idea...

Not too difficult to make a box and steps arrangement.  How adept are you at modelling?  If it's not within your scope I can bash something out for you.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 11:47 AM · edited Thu, 07 June 2012 at 11:53 AM

He he... thought you'd suggest I modelled it.

Yup... I could do I'm sure... and I should... just being lazy... and hoping there'd be a nice ready-made kicking about. LOL ;-)

I've modelled a bit since getting Hexagon earlier in the year... indeed I'd been tinkering with Shade Basic and Blender prior to that... and then, in fact, I spent a fair bit of time making this spaceship at that point, in Hexagon:

...a pretty large and elaborate model to try more or less starting with! I totally bodged it together really... and it has, so far, definitely proven over-ambitious 😊

It was a good thing to try to pick up a few techniques doing though... and moreover discover what didn't work or shouldn't be done, to some extent. I got totally stuck with it around the point I got it looking like this Vue test render though... still got a lot to do on it and no idea where to begin UV mapping or anything like that... LOL.

It also looks pretty bad imported into Poser. Smoothing / hard edges don't work right or something. Vue seems to deal with my probably dodgy mesh better... :lol:

Probably needs binned and started again from scratch once I know more what I'm doing...

So yeah, modelling a box platform and the wooden steps would probably be a better, more appropriate, fresh-start point for me, on the learning-to-model front...

If you don't mind giving me some pointers when I get even more stuck with doing the basic box and steps though... that'd be great 😉


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 11:52 AM

Haha.  I made my first Dalek after playing around with Wings for a couple of weeks.  It was pretty bad and subsequent versions have been complete rebuilds.

As for the box and steps, if you're serious about needing help, bevel all the edges and split the verts.  Belt and braces approach but it does make the model look cleaner and render much better, IMO. 

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 12:05 PM

Thanks Paul... I'm following you on bevel the edges part at least.

Not so sure I understand what you mean in terms of splitting the verts, if I'm honest. It may make more sense to me with Hexagon in front of me... I'll get back to you on that one 😊

I bevelled too late (and too erratically) I think on that ship... which, at least in part, got me into the mess I'm in now with it.... LOL. But hey I hadn't even found the bevel tool until the point I used it at...

Anyway, I should be safer wielding the bevel tool near a straight forward box shape... I guess. He he :laugh:

I'll apologise in advance for whatever array of dumb questions I may now have to send your way about this...

Cheers ;-)


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:01 PM

You'd split the vertices in UVMapper.  It has an option specifically for that.

Ah, regarding "bevel"...

I think we may be talking at cross purposes here.  Bevel in the modelling sense doesn't mean an angled edge or chamfer.  It means an extra row of verts near the edges of whatever shape you're making.  It helps to force Poser into making sharp corners.  Yes, you can just get away with using the crease angle option but it's a good idea to do the model correctly in the first place.

Just as confusingly, a Bevel tool usually does create a chamfered edge.  The simplest way to do what I mean, for Wings at least, is to use the Inset command.  It's not particularly efficient because it can potentially create an inset section for every single poly but for a cube where a whole side is a single poly, it's as good as any other method.

If you take a look at any of my models where there's an angled section - the claws for example - you'll see the edges have the extra rows of polys.  It's that which keeps 'em from looking half melted. 

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:16 PM

Ah - thanks! Suddenly a load of stuff I read previously about bevelling for hard edges makes significantly more sense... I think ;-)

I'll take a closer look at that claw... and Wings too I think.

Unfortunately UV Mapper doesn't install / run on OS X Lion... or at least didn't last I checked.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:20 PM

I'm sure there's going to be another util or modeller can do the trick.  Failing that, mail it to me and I'll do it for you.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:34 PM

Cool - many thanks :-) I'll give it a bash over next few days worth of my night-shift cg art time...


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 3:14 PM

Maybe when it's finished you could include my horrible mother in law as the intended recipient of the drastic haircut.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 4:26 PM

He he. Sure... I do think Dalek extermination would be "cleaner" mind you...? ;-)


SamTherapy ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 1:49 PM

Quote - He he. Sure... I do think Dalek extermination would be "cleaner" mind you...? ;-)

Sure but maybe not as personally satisfying.  :)   

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