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Subject: First timer starting with Poser Debut ...


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Marcuse ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 3:44 PM

There is no Poser.exe anywhere, however I'm in the programme at this moment cross referencing with the Manual about "Display Menu Commands" in Chapter 6 with no problem.

Double clicking on Celestial Hair. exe I always get a panel appearing saying at the top "Open File - Security Warning." Then below "The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this software ? Then "Unknown Publisher" below that. I often get this panel appearing on downloads though it's never caused a problem before....?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 3:46 PM

So what happens when you allow to run?


Marcuse ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 3:56 PM

Nothing.

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 9:45 PM

The warning message is because the .exe file doesn't have a digital signature - a feature to determine if the file really is from Microsoft or a recognized publisher. As you've discovered it's common and 'usually' safe to ignore.

Try checking the file sizes as I suggested to see if you got an incomplete download. I suspect though that the file(s) are corrupted probably because of the issue noted by DAZ.

*"I agree with Imckenzie, except this is an old product which shouldn't have too many problems to install." *

Hborre, you may be correct with the Poser.exe factor. I've never had to deal with it and I don't know how exactly the isntallers respond in that instance - may depend on the version of the installer I imagine. Regarding the age of the file(s) though it seems that it is exactly the older installers (at least) that are borked. Somehow the new download server software is adding a few spurious bytes at the end of the file(s), rendering them inoperable. One user reported fixing them by 'simply' deleting the offending bytes in a hex editor.

My DSL is screwed at the moment or I'd try downloading some of the older free items to see if I could duplicate the error. 

Marcuse, have you ever been able to install any DAZ items before? If not, you could try downloading and installing one of their free items (assuming they're back online. If you can install anything, that might narrow down the Poser.exe issue, especially if it's an older item that I presume wouldn't be aware to look for PoserDebut.exe as a valid Poser program. I'd first contact DAZ support through the link references previously and tell them which product you're having problems with and that you're using Debut. Be aware that considering they're apparently having problems with the new setup it may take awhile for them to get back to you.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Marcuse ( ) posted Wed, 06 June 2012 at 3:08 PM

Thanks sorry for the delay. Unfortunately there weren't any file sizes displayed on the downloaded files so couldn't check, however I've just managed to download the Millenium horse which was free. It went into the Daz3D library ok but not knowing what to click on as there were so many files I had to take a guess (!) but all that came up was Andy. Then I got an apologies for the inconvenience message saying it would have to close down and did I want to send an error report.

I contacted Support yesterday evening but no reply yet however they're hoping to clear the backlog of tickets by Friday so best till wait till then I think....

Thanks again for all the help it's much appreciated 😄

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 2:43 AM

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I'm not sure how the Dub libraries are set up but I thing that if the horse installed correctly, you should be able to open the Character folder in your Poser library and under that, there should be a Daz Animals category where the horse should show up. 

I kind of doubt the sizes are the problem but if you Right click once  on a file of any type and select Properties from the menu that pops up, you should get a popup dialog that shows the information.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Marcuse ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 5:10 AM

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*That could be a either self-extracting zip file or a DAZ installer. The problem is that double clicking on either one should run it. Windows doesn't need anything else to run an exe file. It's possible that it could be have been corrupted in the download process. Try clicking once with the **Right** mouse button. You should get a menu that has 'Properties' as one of the choices - select that. You should see a window that among other things shows the file size. See if the size corresponds to what (hopefully) is listed on the product's description page. If the sizes differ, then the download is probably bad - especially if it is very small. It may even be a web page that got saved with the exe type. Also, note the File Type and Description in that dialog. It may be helpful.*

Unfortunately the horse has no file sizes anywhere, either on the Daz original order page nor on the final paid account file. However you'll see some of the various programmes in the attachment that could be used to open it though I've no idea which one....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


Marcuse ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:35 AM

I also clicked several times on the top Mill Horse entry 12,137 kb but it kept crashing and wanting to send error reports....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 12:00 PM

That posted image you supplied is looking at a PNG file which is an image file used by Poser to display a picture icon.  Open Poser Debut and navigate to figures in you library.  The Mill Horse should appear in there.


Marcuse ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:03 PM

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Unfortunately nothing there either see both attachments. It's a pity but I'm getting a bit fed up with it all now, as no doubt you both are courtesy of Daz so best to wait until they sort themselves out I think, meanwhile I'll get on with the manual.

Thanks again....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


Marcuse ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:05 PM

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Second attachment.

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 1:24 PM

You don't have a scene saved; it is pointless to open one if one does not exist.  Not the way to load a figure. 

In your library, do you see a My Libray runtime?  Or just Poser Debut Library?  I would like to see a screencap of that section only.


Marcuse ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 2:39 PM

Do you mean as in the first attachment I posted of the two ? If so look above the  empty file one....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 3:08 PM

No, the Library window of Poser Debut.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 8:59 PM

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I seriously think that you are still not grasping the loading figure concept in Poser Debut.  I will attempt to illustrate the steps necessary to bring something into the Poser preview screen.  The image above is Poser 8 which is the base for Poser Debut.  As mentioned before, I do own Poser Debut but for the purpose of illustrating a point, I elected not to install the software just to demonstrate.  P8 is similar enough.

Now, Andy is gone from the scene, I deleted him permanently.  Please notice to the right, there is an open window which shows some figures in my Victoria 4 runtime folder.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:03 PM

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This is a closeup of the Library. The Figures category is open, designated by the yellow icon with the figure in it (circled in red).  And as you can see the Show Libraryis pointing at my Victoria 4 Folder.  If the library is not visible, go to the taskbar above and click on *Windows.*


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:05 PM · edited Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:06 PM

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The *Windows* Taskbar menu will open; click on *Libraries* to make the window visible.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:09 PM

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By double-clicking the icon, the figure will load into scene, as illustrated in the image.  I have a feeling that you have been trying to load a figure by using the open command under Files.  Not the case.  As you can see, I loaded a dress into the scene.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:18 PM

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I did notice that you have a folder entitled *My Library* under your *My Documents* folder which contains a runtime folder.  To check if this folder exists in your Library, navigate to *Show Library* at the top of the Library window and click on the arrow to open the menu.  Select all.  This action will reveal all the folders containing runtimes on your hard drive.  The image shows some of my own external, individualized runtimes I have created. 

If you do not see your own folder then you need to add it to your Library.  At the top, right (circled in red) is the add runtime button.  Clicking this button will open a browser where you navigate through your hard drive to your new runtime.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:23 PM

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Please notice, select the folder which contains the runtime, not the runtime folder itself.  I have clearly indicated that action in the image.  Click OK and the folder will be added to your Library.  Simply open the Library folders to your content and click away.

If there is something you do not clearly understand, please let us know. 


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:37 PM

My mistake. I thought you were referring to the files on your PC not having sizes listed. You meant on the product page at DAZ. The free items never had them I don't think. THe paid items used to have the sizes listed. Their new software might not display them. OK one puzzle solved. It appears that you are trying to use Windows to do what you should be doing in Poser. Unfortunately, I don't know what Debut looks like. Hborre's screen shots may help but perhaps you can post a screen shot of your Poser Debut screen and we can work from that. Also, as you said, review the basics of loading figures in the manual. Your Jun 7, 2012 1:03 pm post above looks like the folders for DAZ Studio software but maybe the 'Pos' means Poser - never seen that before. Maybe a screenshot of the expanded folders where you have Poser installed might help. You can also use Windows to search for the file: blMilHorse.obj I believe that is one of the files that should have been installed. If we can find out where that is, we may be on the way to a solution. One step at a time :-)

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Marcuse ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 4:42 AM

Goodness thank you both ! Firstly to bring you up to date I've also been on a Daz forum in the last day or two which I think is self-explanatory trying to understand it all as well, to the extent that they've now created a new thread about it as they can't understand what's happening either ! Had to cancel trip today due to bad weather....

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/1625/

Meantime I'm ok with all the library stuff in principle thanks though still having to refer to the manual all the time but this is routine stuff and just the learning side. But as you'll see from the Daz thread the basic problem currently seems to be that there's no Save option only Run which made me wonder if Debut is incompatible with something, and why I decided to re-install it again this morning. Problem was  the same thing kept happening only this time it crashed whilst loading all the library elements. Incidentally I created the temporary file labelled Pos as I gave up looking for the original Poser library, even though they were listed on the right hand side of the workscreen.

So fortunately not having paid for anything and as it's all getting a frustrating muddle this end, I really want to get on and not waste any more time with Debut. So I've uninstalled them both and now want to trial/ buy (?) whatever Poser version that suits permanently, so whatever you recommend at the cheapest price will be great thanks. It'll be more learning but as I've finished Chapter 7 it makes a whole lot more sense to go down this long term and practical route rather than fiddling around any more with Debut I think...

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


Marcuse ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 6:17 AM

Slight development. Apparently Daz are offering everything for free.... after all that studying and your help too ! Very mixed feelings but I sure could do with the money....so see how it goes for the time being I guess ? If there's a Daz forum on here that would be great as I really feel at home now.....

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/1625/P30

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640


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