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Subject: How old are V4 and V4.2?


Gremalkyn ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 2:26 PM · edited Sat, 01 February 2025 at 2:39 PM

I do not have either of these and I see quite a lot of support for them but, other than V4.2 being newer than V4, I have no idea how old either version is, and I think V5 is for another program and would not work well, if at all, in Poser.

My Poser stuff is so old, I bought some clothes for, and a few figures based on, V3 and M3 but never got around to buying the base figures themselves as my old computer started misbehaving before I could do much of anything.

V4.x product durability would play a part but, before I try to save up some money to start a V4.x collection, I would like to know if the primary reason these are supported so strongly is because of product age (accumulation over time) or if it is because people are thinking this is the last Vicky Poser will see for a while and so vendors prefer V4.x over previous figures because "this is it, folks" (rush to end game).


basicwiz ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 2:32 PM · edited Thu, 14 June 2012 at 2:33 PM

My V4 install file is dated 7/12/2009.


Gremalkyn ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 2:41 PM

Quote - My V4 install file is dated 7/12/2009.

Not so old, then.  My burn-to-cd from another company are from 2003 when Stephanie 3.0 Petite was fairly new and there were a lot of dinosaurs to chase nekkid Vicky 2 through the Cyclorama jungles.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 2:52 PM

My order for the Victoria 4 Pro Bundle was placed in December 2006. The add-ons (muscle and creature morphs) for which the 4.1 update was released, as I recall, were May 2007. I can't recall how much later 4.2 was, it may have been 2009 or that may have been when the figures went free (I have an order for the Victoria 4.2 base from that year, which as I recall i placed when someone was having trouble on the forums).


LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 3:29 PM

I was gonna say...when I came back here in 2008, Poser 6 was still being used and then right after that (and right after I bought it) Poser 7 came out :P

I kinda thought she was released during Poser 6.

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AmbientShade ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 3:48 PM · edited Thu, 14 June 2012 at 3:50 PM

I don't know how old v4.2 is, but I have renders of v4 from Dec '06, so she's at least that old. 

Poser 7 also came out in later half of '06. 😉

 

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WandW ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 4:08 PM · edited Thu, 14 June 2012 at 4:09 PM

My Victoria 4.1 cr2 is dated April of 2007. I copied my V4.2 runtime over from another machine so the file date is the backup date,  so it came out before January 2009.  I think it was in Spring 2008...

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MarianneR ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 4:10 PM

I looked at my backups and have these dates:

Victoria 4.2 Feb, 2008

Victoria 4.1 April, 2007

Victoria 4.0 Dec, 2006


moriador ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 4:24 PM · edited Thu, 14 June 2012 at 4:27 PM

I remember Poser 6 -- 2005, I think -- I was jealous of the lovely AO effects other people were getting. I couldn't afford to upgrade at the time.

I really hated V4 when she first appeared.  Strange to look at my purchase history: It wasn't until December of 2007 that I bought her morphs.  It wasn't until 2010 that I actually started to buy other content for her.  It took 4 years before I was persuaded to use her.


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infinity10 ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 11:00 PM

ha ha ! 

I intended to answer "30 years old", then realised that everyone else is talking about the vintage of the installers, not Victoria4.x's virtual age. 

embarassed

 

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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 11:10 PM · edited Thu, 14 June 2012 at 11:10 PM

Quote - ha ha ! 

I intended to answer "30 years old", then realised that everyone else is talking about the vintage of the installers, not Victoria4.x's virtual age. 

embarassed

 

That's ok..lol.

Laurie



NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 11:34 PM

I was also slow to start using her and only really started using Daz figures when they were free, and the morphs were on special offer. But I think V4 and her morphs is still worth buying considering how much stuff is available for her, including high quality freebies and some very affordable characters and clothing if you know where to look. I am not so sure if I would buy M4 and his morphs at the current price, that would depend on how much you need him.

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vilters ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2012 at 11:38 PM

The way things are going, V4/M4 have a very bright future ahead of them.

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aRtBee ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 7:43 AM · edited Fri, 15 June 2012 at 7:46 AM

just click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_(3D_figure) for all the birth dates. For V4, the release dates exactly fits those posted by MarianneR.

In 2002, somewhere between V2 and V3 DAZ decided to leave the P4Woman base and to go their own route due to a licencing debate with Meta Creations in the process of issuing Poser5, which led them to targeting the games creation market, to create their own Studio product and to the unimesh approach. (Oh no, that subject again). That's ten ago now (!!), long before SmithMicro entered the Poser stage. I'll publish the full overview soon on my website.

If I recall correctly, V3 was based on the bodyscan of a real photomodel (*), and V4 was a mesh improvement of that (wikipedia: using modo). It took Daz about three years to do that, about the time modo needed to come to a serious existence (wikipedia again).

(*) edit: inifinity10 - she was 26 and russian-something if I remember from the PR those days

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aRtBee ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 8:00 AM

add/ too late to edit; the DAZ page on Stepany 3 says explicitely that she was based on a body scan.

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hornet3d ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 8:28 AM

I would have thought investing in V4 would be worthwhile for anyone starting out or coming back to the hobby particularly if using Poser.  With the introduction of V4WM, which is free, I suspect she will around with enough vendor support for a few years yet.

 

 

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