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Subject: Question about getting skin to be greasy/sweaty looking


piccolo_909 ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 6:53 PM · edited Fri, 16 August 2024 at 9:39 PM

Sup guys. I was wondering how you can get skin to realistically have a greasy/sweaty look to it. The look i'm shooting for is for males, that bodybuilder greasy look, and for females, that oiled skin on the beach look. I have a basic understanding of the material room and using the specular settings/highlights. However, while bringing out the highlights looks ok, it doesn't have that speckled appearance that real greasy/sweaty skin hav, and in some cases it makes the figure look a bit plastic.

I do not know much about the other nodes i can use, like the glossiness etc, maybe that's where i'm supposed to make changes.

I know there's a few people here who have deep understanding of the material room. Hopefully one of you material room guru's can help me out and give me some tips.

I'm using poser pro 2012 and i postwork in photoshop CS5.


JoePublic ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 7:11 PM

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For my wet skin shader, I'm using a specularity map for the drops.

There are also two blinn nodes, one for general shininess, one for the drops.


DarkEdge ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 7:55 PM

Looks great, why don't you post a pic of your material for Piccolo to learn from? 😄

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 8:57 PM · edited Fri, 15 June 2012 at 8:58 PM

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This is not my product, but I assume you mean something like the second content advisory image for this?  Caution:  Nudity.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/shootbabes-michelle/93790


piccolo_909 ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 9:49 PM · edited Fri, 15 June 2012 at 10:02 PM

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Joepublic: That shininess is what i'm looking for (minus the water droplets). What are the material settings to get that look?

Gremalkyn: Yeah looking to get a look similar to her face.

edit i did a random search and found a picture with what i'm looking for. Notice how the shine on his body is a bit greasy/speckled. What would i do in the material room to achieve a similar look?


piccolo_909 ( ) posted Fri, 15 June 2012 at 10:19 PM

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Here's a second example of harsher shine.

 


vilters ( ) posted Sat, 16 June 2012 at 8:21 AM · edited Sat, 16 June 2012 at 8:24 AM

Check here

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3913914&ebot_calc_page#message_3913914

And check here

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3810107&ebot_calc_page#message_3810107

 

Some have examples of the nodes setups I used at the time.
have to go, no time to update right now.

Experiment

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aRtBee ( ) posted Sat, 16 June 2012 at 9:06 AM

it depends on your lighting.

When you're using direct lights (point/spot/...) you need to use specularity. I tend to use rather large highlight sizes in this case, and a low value/dark color, and gradually increase brighness of the latter till satisfied. Note that reflection nodes don't handle direct light.

When your're using IDL lighting you've got to use reflection, as specularity does handle direct lights only. Just a white skydome will do, but it should match the rest of your image of course.

The third way is to use IDL lighting, plus some direct lights with (in Material Room) the diffuse channel blacked out. That combines both worlds.

My personal preference, especially in the last example, is to use more direct light and less indirect light because not only the highlights but also the shadowing does an important job. And while IDL is good at lighting, it's poor at shadowing. Direct lighting is just the opposite. Like real photographers: combining artificial and natural light for the best result.

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

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piccolo_909 ( ) posted Sat, 16 June 2012 at 7:33 PM

vilters - Thanks man! This is what i was looking for.

aRtBee - Ahhh ok. Thanks for these tips. I'll keep them in mind when i'm messing with these material nodes.


piccolo_909 ( ) posted Mon, 18 June 2012 at 4:16 AM

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Ok, i followed one of the tutorials to get the greasy skin look. This is the tutorial i followed.

 


piccolo_909 ( ) posted Mon, 18 June 2012 at 4:19 AM

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I applied this to my freak 4 skin, and this was the result. It's not getting that same gritty, greasy shine that i want. What am i doing wrong?

 


aRtBee ( ) posted Mon, 18 June 2012 at 5:00 AM

my first impression is; your lighting.

A photographer would hold a white/grey/black chart next to the object to get his white/grey/black points right in the capture, you can do the same. Then you know.

From a Poser point of view I would say: I see 100% diffuse on an image map of about 50-70% brightness itself, plus 100% specular plus full Blinn on the Alt_specular, so under a 100% white spot I expect 200% respons = serious overlighting. And 50% grey on the chart should show 50% grey when measured in Photoshop or alike.

The Freak image however shows a dark floor, medium dark muscles and a mild cyan light. Thinking as a photographer; more flash, more exposure. Those muscle shows are like fashion shoots, ringflashes, reflecting umbrellas, all power to the bulbs, and hard shadows. This is not the place or time for softish outdoor overcast girl-skin-friendly IDL.

(my main message is: when you're into Virtual Photography, thinks as a photographer). 

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


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