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Subject: Poser 9 and CyberPower Computer


westcat ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 1:44 PM · edited Sat, 01 February 2025 at 10:01 PM

Attached Link: CyberPower

Should the folowing Computer work well with Poser 9 ?

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Eight_Core_Configurator/

Details;

CyberPower

AMD Eight Core Configurator    

    Configuration

        CPU: AMD FX-8120 3.10 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
        HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
        MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
        MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] ASUS M5A97 AMD 970 Chipset CrossFireX Support DDR3 Socket AM3+ ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
        SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
        VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

This will be my first custom powerful PC, just for rendering.

thanks

West


JohnDoe641 ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 2:09 PM · edited Tue, 17 July 2012 at 2:10 PM

I would suggest that you get more than one HD, make the first one 2TB+ and have a secondary or even third at 1TB. Having lots of space for poser work and other media really is a life saver and it's always good to have back ups in multiple places.

For ram, 8GB is good but 16+GB is better. I'm assuming you're going to be on Win7 64-bit so the more ram you can throw at it, the more applications and complicated scenes you can have running at the same time.

The GT 610 is really a budget card, I think it's only 64bit so the bandwidth is really terrible for anything other than web browsing, you'll probably lag a bit in the Poser preview window with that card, but Poser doesn't use the video card or any of it's CUDA cores for rendering so if that's you're only concern then choosing the card will have no effect on render times and you can save some money.


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 2:12 PM

I have a quad core AMD, a 1 gig Nvidia graphics card and 6 gigs of ram and I have ZERO problems running Poser Pro 2012. That'll be more than enough. Laurie



westcat ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 6:44 PM

thank you :)


GeneralNutt ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 7:06 PM

I think may have heat issues. I would add a couple more fans. I have a 6 core AMD is she gets hot fast. Make sure to keep your heat sink clean. Winter can be your friend.



vilters ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 7:18 PM

Poser 9 being a 32 bit application?
That might be your bottleneck.

This system screems for a 64 bit app like PP2012.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!


westcat ( ) posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 8:14 PM

Quote - Poser 9 being a 32 bit application?
That might be your bottleneck.

This system screems for a 64 bit app like PP2012.

 

thanks again :)


aRtBee ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 6:11 AM

things depend a bit on your Poser usage too:

 - large size still images, displacement maps (memory intensive)

 - high quality still images (IDL, SSS, reflections, ...) - CPU intensive

 - crowded scenes (lots of chars and details), memory intensive, use 64bit

 - shorts and animations - CPU / Disk intensive,

 - cloth and hair dynamics - faster CPU, not more

tell us what you're aiming at, it might help us to help you.

- - - - - 

Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


onnetz ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 12:44 PM

Personally I would buy each piece separately from somewhere like newegg.

350 watt ps doesnt give you any room for a better graphics card.

And like was said, that case is going to be a heater.

Some quick choices I made from newegg.

cpu: AMD FX 8150 $199

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ $109

Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 $104

Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V $89

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb $119

Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $134

Case:COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II $99

 Roughly $800 but a far superior setup.

 

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If you can't eat it or play with it,

just pee on it and walk away. :-)

....................................................

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if people would manage their stupidity......

 


EricofSD ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 2:28 AM

I'm working on a new box too.  The one you describe is going to be pretty fast for stills, but not animations.

I recently opened a tech ticket at Smith Micro on this issue of what to build and they recommended LOTS of RAM. 

Money is always the bottom line.  How much can you get for the budget.

Consider a comparison to a box with Intel 6 core (if a single chip, ivy or sandy is fine, if dual cpu, then ivy is the way to go).  Also, consider 34G of ram for Poser.  Ram is not that expensive, but the processors are.

I'm budgeting $4K or slighlty more so I'm looking at dual processor 6 core ivy bridge xeon and 64G RAM and SSD drives with a Terabite storage drive.

Given the under $1,000 price of your choice, it might be fine, but right now the hottest AMD machines are way behind Intel.

Also, hyperthreading is of value to Poser to make sure you have a decent hyperthreading amount. 

I have also learned that many of the processors that are multicore are not really true multicore, they have virtual cores, and those don't work as well.

I think for the money its a good still image poser machine but you're going to live with it for a few years so do some serious consideration into spending a bit more.  You don't have to go to $4K like me (and I'll add a blade station if I need for the animations).  But when you get into double the price range you are looking at, you may find yourself with an 8 core intel and a lot more RAM.


onnetz ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 12:53 PM

4k on a rig for poser seems a bit over the top to me. For max or maya yeah but not poser.

I think I read somewhere that poser can only use 32gb of memory.

 

But if you've got money to burn then hell, why not. :-)

 

Handle every stressful situation like a dog.

If you can't eat it or play with it,

just pee on it and walk away. :-)

....................................................

I wouldnt have to manage my anger

if people would manage their stupidity......

 


aRtBee ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 2:35 PM

when OP uses Poser 9 = 32 bits then 3gb is the most that can be handled, assuming either a 64bit OS or proper OS-settings. Otherwise 2Gb. When OP uses 64-bit PoserPro then there is virtually no limit, but most mobo's don't support over 32Gb.

Quoting from my Poser - the Program tutorial:

How much memory do I need?

• 150Mb for the empty program, just launched and no scene nor figures loaded.

• 150Mb for an average scene. It can be less, with just a single background object. Or far more when I've loaded a large scale extremely detailed castle environment with loads of high resolution textures.

• 100Mb for a character (like Vicky 4) including textures and a decent set of morphs, without clothing

• 100 - 200Mb for clothing of that one character

• And then rendering requires an additional 2- (average) to 4-fold (peak) of the amount needed for scene, characters and clothing.

For example:

• I start Poser, delete the default Andy figure (makes an empty scene of 150Mb), and just load Vicky with some morphs (100Mb) and a decent clothing set (150Mb) for a total of 150+100+150 = 400 Mb. Then I render, and Vicky + clothes (250Mb together) goes fourfold, or: adds 1000Mb. Hence at the peak of the rendering process, my total user memory requirements are 1400Mb. During the render, the average memory usage is 900Mb.

• Now I add Mike (+clothes) to the scene, which adds another 250Mb to the design stage. But he also adds 500Mb on the average to the rendering. On the average. Because when the rendering peaks on either Vicky or Mike the memory requirements will be 1400+500=1900Mb in each peak, and when the renderer cannot prevent peak overlap the requirement might be as extreme as 1400+1000=2400Mb.

For CPU: please note that using IDL in animations comes with flickering, which can be avoided by rendering SINGLE threaded.

And so there are more issues. Which is why I asked OP for the intended use of the system.

I did spend about 4k$ on my rig. But that's including a 17Tb disk system, Windows, and supplier install and support. Not for Poser, but for large scale Vue scenes with full ecosystems, and high-end LuxRender like rendering.

- - - - - 

Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


westcat ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 6:10 PM

Thanks again.

this is what I decided on, given money etc;

CAS: Cooler Master Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 200mm Fan, Integrated Fan Controller, Front USB 3.0 & X-Dock, and Easy Carry Handle [+94]
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light [+10] (Blue Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: AMD FX-8120 3.10 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+142] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] ASUS M5A97 AMD 970 Chipset CrossFireX Support DDR3 Socket AM3+ ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows 7 Professional [+135] (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 350 Watts - Antec Basiq BP350 Power Supply
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOFT1: Free Microsoft(R) Office(R) 2010 STARTER EDITION (Reduced-Functionality versions of Word and Excel that include advertising) [+0]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers [+15]
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)


heddheld ( ) posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 1:46 AM

one other thing since you will be using win 7 !!!

win 7 has problems with the bulldozer chips, there is patches for making win 7 work better with that cpu but there is still people having problems

(http://www.techpowerup.com/158534/New-Windows-7-Bulldozer-Patches-Available..html?cp=2 )

google should bring up lots of info on this problem

have fun


moogal ( ) posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 8:06 PM · edited Fri, 20 July 2012 at 8:08 PM

Quote - I would suggest that you get more than one HD, make the first one 2TB+ and have a secondary or even third at 1TB. Having lots of space for poser work and other media really is a life saver and it's always good to have back ups in multiple places.

That seems like a good amount to have if you store a lot of media on your computer but seems like overkill for a workstation...

I'd use 128GB SSD for primary drive (fast booting and launching), just installing the OS and apps on it.  Then I'd go for a 500GB-2TB (depends on your budget) secondary drive for work, content, etc.  But I'd also recommend a 500GB+ USB drive.  You can back things up to it, and it would make setting up your next system easier.

I'm ashamed to admit how little space is actually taken up by things I have made versus all of the other junk I keep on my computer.

I'm also ashamed that the 500GB USB HD I bought for backing things up is still in its box.  Why is it so hard to take the time to back things up?

I'm using a CyberPower Phenom II X4 910 system right now, BTW, and I love it.


westcat ( ) posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 11:58 AM

Quote - one other thing since you will be using win 7 !!!

win 7 has problems with the bulldozer chips, there is patches for making win 7 work better with that cpu but there is still people having problems

(http://www.techpowerup.com/158534/New-Windows-7-Bulldozer-Patches-Available..html?cp=2 )

google should bring up lots of info on this problem

have fun

 

Bulldozer Chips ???


heddheld ( ) posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 12:38 PM

the FX chips are code named bulldozer, they have a dif layout and win 7 dosn't use all the cores to best advantage

I was looking at getting one last month and after reading all the info have decided to go intel (be the first intel chip I bought for 10 yrs lol) win 8 is suposed to deal with it better but I dont want to change op sys at the mo

not looking to put you off, just want you to have all the facts you can get before deciding an if you look Moogal has a phenom! diff chip alltogether(heck 2 of mine are phenom 4 cores)

heres another link with more info (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/99545-amd-fx-bulldozer-desktop-cpu-released-slower-than-cheaper-core-i5-competition)

 

hope whatever decision you make works well for you


onnetz ( ) posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 5:14 PM

There is a world of information on anything computer related at this site. Its not just for overclocking. But since you went watercooling you might want to look into it to get the most out of your cpu.

http://www.overclock.net/f/10/amd-cpus

Handle every stressful situation like a dog.

If you can't eat it or play with it,

just pee on it and walk away. :-)

....................................................

I wouldnt have to manage my anger

if people would manage their stupidity......

 


westcat ( ) posted Sun, 22 July 2012 at 7:31 PM

Quote - the FX chips are code named bulldozer, they have a dif layout and win 7 dosn't use all the cores to best advantage

I was looking at getting one last month and after reading all the info have decided to go intel (be the first intel chip I bought for 10 yrs lol) win 8 is suposed to deal with it better but I dont want to change op sys at the mo

not looking to put you off, just want you to have all the facts you can get before deciding an if you look Moogal has a phenom! diff chip alltogether(heck 2 of mine are phenom 4 cores)

heres another link with more info (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/99545-amd-fx-bulldozer-desktop-cpu-released-slower-than-cheaper-core-i5-competition)

 

hope whatever decision you make works well for you

 

OK thanks they told me Windows 7 Proff should be OK ?


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